Vietnamese vs Cantonese: Guangdong-Guangxi alliance vs Vietnam, which one is more powerful?

[ChineseTiger1986]

Before Gorbachev chose 100% privatize, USSR was already on high risk of bankruptcy, thats why they reduced aid to VN during 80s. 100% privatize the state-owned economy only made USSR collapse faster.

USSR made some serious strategic mistakes, that's why their economy was tumbling down in the 1980s, and the privatization had only killed them faster.

USA is not convincing VN to 100% privatize your strategic SOEs coz they need a strong VN to contain China in East sea now. As I said: VN dont bow down and accept US's rule on our island like China, so we will do what is good for VN despite US like or not

Don't be so sure, USA right now is hungry for meat, and they indeed view your SOE as some good chunk of meat for the dinner.

So they will bribe your corrupt officials to sell the share of your SOE to them with some very low price.

Your corrupt officials will indeed be pleased to do that, because to sell off the SOE can erase their criminal records of stealing the money from the SOE.

After that, they will try to legalize their booty money by supporting the 'western democracy' and to overthrow your government.

At the end, USA can control your SOE with only 1/1000 of its actual value as the payable price, while your corrupt officially can legalize their booty money which was stolen from your people.

 

[NiceGuy]

USSR made some serious strategic mistakes, that's why their economy was tumbling down in the 1980s, and the privatization only killed them faster.

Right, they should keep applying NEP and stop it like in China when the rich become too rich... but USSR stop NEP too early after the dead of Lenin, so going bankruptcy was inevitable for them.

We need lots of money now to keep supporting pro Govt. in Laos-Kamb and pro-VN gens. in Thai. We also learnt a lot from USSR when stop NEP so early and its mistake in 100 % privatize the state-owned economy, so we will be able to avoid the same mistake

Don't be so sure, USA right now is hungry for meat, and they indeed view your SOE as some good chunk of meat for the dinner.

So they will bribe your corrupt officials to sell the share of your SOE to them with some very low price.

Your corrupt officials will indeed be pleased to do that, because to sell of the SOE can erase their criminal records of stealing the money from the SOE.

After that, they will try to legalize their booty money by supporting the 'western democracy' and to overthrow your government.

At the end, USA can control your SOE with only 1/1000 of its actual value as the payable price, while your corrupt officially can legalize their booty money which was stolen from your people.

US have Global view, helping VN corrupt officials will create chaos in VN and VN will not strong enough to contain China for them.

So they dont do it now at least when China is still a threat in Paciffic ocean and East sea

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

US have Global view, helping VN corrupt officials will create chaos in VN and VN will not strong enough to contain China for them.

So they dont do it now at least when China is still a threat in Paciffic ocean and East sea

But they are now hungry every chunk of meat.

Just see how they have done to their former ally Gaddafi.

Gaddafi had surrendered to the US, but the US had still eyed on his 500 billion fortune, so he must die.

Western Countries Stole Over $500 Billion of Libya’s Sovereign Wealth Funds | Jamahiriya News Agency

Do you still think that your SOE is safe from the US?

 

[BoQ77]

I suggest not to update to this thread. Are you ok ?

 

[TheTruth]

VN dont bow down and accept US's rule on our island like China, so we will do what is good for VN despite US like or not

VN bows down to Chinese rule of Chinese islands.

 

[NiceGuy]

But they are now hungry every chunk of meat.

Just see how they have done to their former ally Gaddafi.

Gaddafi had surrendered to the US, but the US had still eyed on his 500 billion fortune, so he must die.

Western Countries Stole Over $500 Billion of Libya’s Sovereign Wealth Funds | Jamahiriya News Agency

Do you still think that your SOE is safe from the US?

Gaddafi was too weak to fight against US, thats why he's gone. China was too coward to take back TW during Deng period, thats why China mainland suffer 'umbrella revolt.' incited by TW-US.

VN is strong enough to counter one more US war, strong enough to resist 'color revolt', so US will not pick VN as an enemy now.

There r still many weaker preys for US to swallow now such as China etc, so they will pick up the easy opponents first

 

[Rechoice]

US has good opportunity to turn back Asia to rule all of you..

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Gaddafi was too weak to fight against US, thats why he's gone. China was too coward to take back TW during Deng period, thats why China mainland suffer 'umbrella revolt.' incited by TW-US.

VN is strong enough to counter one more US war, strong enough to resist 'color revolt', so US will not pick VN as an enemy now.

There r still many weaker preys for US to swallow now such as China etc, so they will pick up the easy opponents first

Are you kidding me?

The umbrella revolution only happened in HK which has a political barrier with the Mainland China.

In the Mainland China, such prior event will get cracked down before it can ever happen.

We keep set HK's political model as a negative example, so in the future we will have a chance to turn HK into socialist society. Same for Taiwan, now we stop to support their economy and let them to collapse.

Sun Tzu is Chinese, do you think they can fool the grandmaster of strategy?

 

[NiceGuy]

Are you kidding me?

The umbrella revolution only happened in HK which has a political barrier with the Mainland China.

In the Mainland China, such prior event will get cracked down before it can ever happen.

We keep set HK's political model as a negative example, so in the future we will have a chance to turn HK into socialist society. Same for Taiwan, now we stop to support their economy and let them to collapse.

Sun Tzu is Chinese, do you think they can fool the grandmaster of strategy?

China is still too weak and coward like in 1979, you will lose when directly challenging TW-US now. US dont make 'The umbrella revolution' get worse just bcz they r busy in oil war with Russia now. But The umbrella revolution will inspire and encourage the anti-China Govt. groups to take more crazy actions, and it will spread to all over China when the right time come (China economy is worsening is a good condition for revolt.).

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China is still too weak and coward like in 1979, you will lose when directly challenging TW-US now. US dont make 'The umbrella revolution' get worse just bcz they r busy in oil war with Russia now. But The umbrella revolution will inspire and encourage the anti-China Govt. groups to take more crazy actions, and it will spread to all over China when the right time come (China economy is worsening is a good condition for revolt.).

Stop being denial here.

The real easy prey for the US is more likely Vietnam, see how many prior color revolution riots have happened in Vietnam during last year? Do you see such thing ever happened in the Mainland China?

The umbrella revolution has only stirred up more resentment of the Mainland Chinese towards the pro-West HKers.

Now just keep dancing with the wolves, and at the end don't cry that the US has only paid 1 million to buy up your SOE that worth 1 trillion.

 

[NiceGuy]

Stop being denial here.

The real easy prey for the US is more likely Vietnam, see how many prior color revolution riots have happened in Vietnam during the last year? Do you see such thing ever happened in the Mainland China?

The umbrella revolution has only stirred up more resentment of the Mainland Chinese towards the pro-West HKers.

Now just keep dancing with the wolves, and at the end don't cry that the US has paid 1 million to buy up your SOE that worth 1 trillion.

I think the thread should be change to 'VN vs China which one will collapse first', and everyone can see clearly that it is China. Your butt is burning by 'The umbrella revolution ' incited by TW-US and it is getting worse due to bad China economy . You can do nothing to stop being butt-hurt coz your army is to weak-coward-corrupted to kick back TW-US's butts.

VN wt the help from India-Russia-JP and even USA is getting better and better, our army is strong enough to take one more war wt US (history proved that), we r also strong enough to break down all 'color revolt' , so we will survive and keep going forward wt the plan to unify sub-Mekong region

Believe or not, thats what is happening now, no one can change the Truth.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I think the thread should be change to 'VN vs China which one will collapse first', and everyone can see clearly that it is China. Your butt is burning by 'The umbrella revolution ' incited by TW-US and it is getting worse due to bad China economy . You can do nothing to stop being butt-hurt coz your army is to weak-coward-corrupted.

VN wt the help from India-Russia-JP and even USA is getting better and better, our army is strong enough to take one more war wt US, we r also strong enough to break down all 'color revolt' , so we will survive and keep going forward wt the plan to unify sub-Mekong region

Believe or not, thats what is happening now, no one can change the Truth.

Dude, forget about Russia, they are now getting threatening by USA in Ukraine, and they know that China is their only hope to contain against USA.

India is also fragile with a lot of internal issues, and irritating China will only cause more problems for themselves.

As for Vietnam, don't be so overconfident about your importance to the US. The US may prefer to 'democratize' you first, then using you to deal against China.

Why? Because you are still communist, and the US doesn't truly trust any communist nation, so they may use ROV to overthrow your communist government first, then using the ROV to contain China.

 

[NiceGuy]

Dude, forget about Russia, they are now getting threatening by USA in Ukraine, and they know that China is their only hope to contain against USA.

India is also fragile with a lot of internal issues, and irritating China will only cause more problems for themselves.

As for Vietnam, don't be so overconfident about your importance to the US. The US may prefer to 'democratize' you first, then using you to deal against China.

Why? Because you are still communist, and the US doesn't truly trust any communist nation, so they may use ROV to overthrow your communist government first, then using the ROV to contain China.

Russia still protecting VN oil rig in SCS(east sea). As I said: Russia-US oil war is just the war between Mr.Putin vs US, Russia never abandon VN even when USSR collapse.

And u will see a stronger VN-Indian relationship in near future.

We dont care US to trust VN or not, but US is supporting VN now, and they never can make 100 % stock coz Russia is holding a high stake in our oil company. TPP will be a very good deal to help our agriculture sector to grow faster

Meanwhile, China's butt getting much more pain when HK protest is back.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russia still protecting VN oil rig in SCS(east sea). As I said: Russia-US oil war is the war between Mr.Putin vs US, Russia never abandon VN even when USSR collapse.

And u will see a stronger VN-Indian relationship in near future.

We dont care US to trust VN or not, but US is supporting VN now, and they never can make 100 % stock coz Russia is holding a high stake in our oil company. TPP will be a very good deal to help our agriculture sector to grow faster

Russia is using Vietnam to balance China's influence in the SCS, it is true.

But when it comes to the US, they will side with China, this is also the reality.

And the US may prefer to turn your SROV into ROV, then they will use you to contain against China.

Do you want the US to turn your nation into a zombie country just like Ukraine?