Video : Iraqi Soldiers executing 3 civilians with cold blood

[Decisive Storm]

Iraqi Soldiers executing 3 civilians in the street with cold blood

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Just another day in Shiite's Iraq.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Why adopt a title different from the news report.

Correct title according to the news anchor: Execution of 3 men found guilty of being islamic state affiliated

Although this is probably a war crime it's a great thing. Actually, every regional army has executed POWs, more effective and efficient. Putting them through the justice system to end up with the same result (execution) slows down the fight and takes up resources of every kind (financial, humvee for transport, soldiers, intel agency screening, court, police, food), no time for that.

 

[Decisive Storm]

Correct title according to the news anchor: Execution of 3 men found guilty of being islamic state affiliated

Are you non-Arab, or just playing foolish ?

In both videos the anchor is saying that it is not new for brutal Iraqi Shiites forces to execute civilians in the streets, in the second video the anchor is saying that this is happening so many times that it shows it is a systematic policy.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Are you non-Arab, or just playing foolish ?

In both videos the anchor is saying that it is not new for brutal Iraqi Shiites forces to execute civilians in the streets, in the second video the anchor is saying that this is happening so many times that it shows it is a systematic policy.

i didn't listen much to what they said but i can speak arabic, why would i listen to them, al jazeera .

Yesyes civillians, because all of isis turn to innocent civillians when they're captured, it's fine if you disagree, does it matter or make a difference.. no.

 

[الأعرابي]

They also ran over a little kid with a tank not too long ago for simply being a Sunni, so not surprised at all.

I've created multiple threads about this vid when it was fresh but each time it gets deleted by the pro Iranian mods in here.

 

[Attila the Hun]

They also ran over a little kid with a tank not too long ago for simply being a Sunni, so not surprised at all.

I've created multiple threads about this vid when it was fresh but each time it gets deleted by the pro Iranian mods in here.

What the heck did I just watch?

 

[Kambojaric]

States can't behave like Isis if they want to maintain the decorum of moral superiority. Hope these three stand trial and if guilty punished. One can hope I suppose :/

 

[Saif al-Arab]

We can't know for certain if those 3 were civilians. At the same time even if they were ISIS members or suspected ISIS members you arrest them and judge their guilt or innocence in a court of law. Unless they were caught in the "act" which nothing suggest. When I say "caught in the act" I am talking about direct fire/fighting erupting and afterwards them surrounding. Nothing wrong with killing ISIS members in such a way. Recently a hero in the Saudi Arabian police did the same and it went viral all across the world and gave the country positive publicity.

At the same time Al-Jazeera should stop painting the entire Iraqi Army (10.000's of soldiers are Iraqi Sunni Arabs, locals as non-locals), there are local tribal volunteers too, as an sectarian outfit. This is not the Iraq of Al-Maliki although there are a lot of troubles in this regard but mostly from Iraqi Shia militias and especially those allied/loyal to Iran. It is such militias that should not even take part in those fights against ISIS as there is no lack of manpower at all.

As for the video of that child, it is deeply wrong and makes the perpetrators no different from ISIS. A moronic action. If I was their superior I would have punished them severely.

Anyway some say that it was ISIS in Iraqi uniforms trying to defame the Iraqi army. We won't know the truth for certain.

Anyway I am not a big fan of the current Iraqi system (dominated by the poisonous Dawa party) but Iraqis are our own flesh and blood. We cannot continue hostile policies as this only strengthens Iran. Most Iraqi Shia Arabs are very good people. Most are against Iranian meddling too and few are Wilayat al-Faqih supporters. Only the loud ones.

Our anger should be directed against the Mullah's of Iran first and foremost. They are the same persons who have brainwashed Shia Arabs in Southern Lebanon.

I repeat, the average Shia Arab is not our enemy but they will become enemies if we paint them all with the same brush as the Iranian Mullah's.

This strategy has failed and will alienate people naturally.

States can't behave like Isis if they want to maintain the decorum of moral superiority. Hope these three stand trial and if guilty punished. One can hope I suppose :/

Those 3 can't stand trial any longer as they are executed already. See the first video posted.

 

[I.R.A]

Nothing wrong with killing ISIS members in such a way.

What exactly is different then? Both are doing the same killing unarmed people. How is it okay for one and not for other?

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Tank vid was isis pretending to be the army, this warning of isis propaganda was given by CJTF-OiR itself on their Twitter page. Maybe i am wrong but these attempts won't do much anymore, the world superpowers are behind us and are aware of the propaganda wars. the isf conducts their operations in a very clean manner compared to any other war in the region. airpower usage is minimized, look at Mosul being largely intact.

This propaganda is just part of the wider strategy which has been working counterproductive to their own goals. it's hard to actually find Sunni iraqis against the Mosul OP unless they're far gone and isis lunatics, they won't approve of such propaganda.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

What exactly is different then? Both are doing the same killing unarmed people. How is it okay for one and not for other?

ISIS members cannot be reasoned with. If you catch ISIS members in the act on the battlefield, you kill them. It's simple as that.

It sounds harsh but we are talking about ISIS here. The same group of terrorists who have murdered 1000's of Iraqis, Sunnis as well as Shias. Non-Muslims too.

You can't blame soldiers, often people who have lost relatives or friends or know people who have lost relatives or friends, to show mercy against such people.

Tank vid was isis pretending to be the army, this warning of isis propaganda was given by CJTF-OiR itself on their Twitter page. Maybe i am wrong but these attempts won't do much anymore, the world superpowers are behind us and are aware of the propaganda wars. the isf conducts their operations in a very clean manner compared to any other war in the region. airpower usage is minimized, look at Mosul being largely intact.

This propaganda is just part of the wider strategy which has been working counterproductive to their own goals. it's hard to actually find Sunni iraqis against the Mosul OP unless they're far gone and isis lunatics, they won't approve of such propaganda.

OK, so that tank video was confirmed as ISIS propaganda? Good to know if true. I was shocked the first time I saw it and this made me question the role of certain elements in the Iraqi army. Of course you will have instances here and there of wrongdoings but it is a minority and can't be generalized. This is not the era of Al-Maliki.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

What exactly is different then? Both are doing the same killing unarmed people. How is it okay for one and not for other?

Your method was applied a decade ago, it resulted in Camp Bucca allowing isis to become what it is now. Al Baghdadi and many other top leader were once in prison.

OK, so that tank video was confirmed as ISIS propaganda? Good to know if true.

CJTF-OiR released a statement warning about isis propaganda masquerading as local forces after the tank vid was released, they did not specifically mention the tank incident. i don't believe the tank vid is actually the army, too many individuals are involved with something that takes some preparation (not an instant reaction like shooting someone), the guy in the video shouts 'haidar' to make it look genuine. Also driving over someone with a tank is typical isis style, they did that in Syria before. Then that aside, i barely see isf still using the T-62, many seem to have gone to the PMU who don't wear the uniorms worn in that video.

it doesn't fit.

 

[I.R.A]

Your method was applied a decade ago, it resulted in Camp Bucca allowing isis to become what it is now. Al Baghdadi and many other top leader were once in prison.

I don't know the facts about these three guys killed in this video, however, what happened in my country is you kill the ones that you know are a threat no matter what (that too mainly because justice system somehow failed to punish and restrict them) ................ but the ones who surrender and there is hope of rehabilitation you give them a chance and such people have changed their views. @Saif al-Arab

 

[Saif al-Arab]

I don't know the facts about these three guys killed in this video, however, what happened in my country is you kill the ones that you know are a threat no matter what (that too mainly because justice system somehow failed to punish and restrict them) ................ but the ones who surrender and there is hope of rehabilitation you give them a chance and such people have changed their views. @Saif al-Arab

I gave my views in post 8, not that they matter.

I am also a proponent of forgiving people who are not a threat and who have changed for the better. Especially if they have not committed crimes such as killings but solely been members of terrorist groups for a while.

One of the biggest ISIS experts in Iraq is a former Al-Qaeda in Iraq member called Hisham al-Hashimi. He even once met Al-Zarqawi. Today he helps the Iraqi government in the fight against ISIS. He has also written books and is often on TV.

Anyway there are positives and negatives with all policies. You can argue that if you kill ISIS members their children and family would want revenge because they might not believe that their relatives were ISIS members so they themselves might turn violent etc.

Anyway in KSA former Al-Qaeda members have been rehabilitated and most of that has worked but some cannot be rehabilitated and they have escaped to Yemen (mainly) or Iraq and elsewhere and are now doing terror.

I think that each case must be handled specifically but I am not a lawyer.

This region is a too big mess currently.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

I was shocked the first time I saw it and this made me question the role of certain elements in the Iraqi army. Of course you will have instances here and there of wrongdoings but it is a minority and can't be generalized. This is not the era of Al-Maliki.

People here can disagree with me and call me a Shia liar for all i care but it makes no difference.

in early 2015 during the Tikrit OP the world was shouting how the PMU would commit mass genocide against the locals to take revenge for the Tikrit massacre, but nothing happened. During the Fallujah OP which was mostly led by the army the world was shouting how there would be massacres, in the end there was nothing but some reports which remain unproven. Mosul, same story again yet nothing but very clean results. The US wouldn't accept lending support to the army if they were doing what some are claiming, with their intel assets there they know more than any news org.

They did this before, in 2012 isi launched a raid in Haditha wearing police uniforms and cars, vid is available but won't post.

Qatar's AJ Arabic is openly supporting isis, they aren't to be taken serious. Trump should do something good about it.