Valentine's Day From an Islamic Perspective

[Kompromat]

Ok Sir; i agree... people should live with the laws of Pakistan. but can you tell me the exact order of the law about the Val's day? what kind of a punishment will people face if they dont abide the law?
Also can you tell me the description of the law about Val's day?

Here we make a mistake. we cant prevent the meeting of 2 independent, free people. and how will you understand if they celebrate that day?

lets imagine you arrested them... they were walking on street hand to hand. What if they say ''we go to hospital to visit a sick person'' ? how can we understand the intentions of people? do we have an ''intention-meter''?

i say again, in pakistan and afghanistan we muslims made a mistake and became a judge over people and interfered their privacy, we didnt respect their own wills and dreams. if someone wants to celebrate it, let them do it. if you teach Islam to your son and to your daughter i m sure they wont celebrate it. You cant earn anything with banning these days. more and more people will celebrate it after you ban them. if something is banned, that thing will look sweet and sympathic for people. i think you need to check your idea once more.
Regards
Kansu

You are going too far away from what i have tried to explain sir.

According to our constitution These events are not recognized.

In Pakistan we have separated Schools and Universities for girls.

You have never been to Pakistan i believe , it would be in a blue moon if you see a girl and boy going hand in hand on a street.

It is a different society with different values and what we expect is to be respected for them not be told what to do.

Regards:

 

[Kansu]

OMG THIS IS THE MOST UNETHICAL THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!

IT MUST BE BANNED IMMEDIATELY. AN INSULT TO ISLAM AND PAKISTAN. LOOK AT THOSE DISGUSTING UNETHICAL DISRESPECTFUL BESHARAM CHILDREN. THEY SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY WHIPPED AND BEHEADED.

Freekin;
i invite you to defend your thoughts in a proper way. you walk on fire with gas tank... please remove these photos. we are on a serious point brother

 

[Hyde]

Ok Sir; i agree... people should live with the laws of Pakistan. but can you tell me the exact order of the law about the Val's day? what kind of a punishment will people face if they dont abide the law?
Also can you tell me the description of the law about Val's day?

Here we make a mistake. we cant prevent the meeting of 2 independent, free people. and how will you understand if they celebrate that day?

lets imagine you arrested them... they were walking on street hand to hand. What if they say ''we go to hospital to visit a sick person'' ? how can we understand the intentions of people? do we have an ''intention-meter''?

i say again, in pakistan and afghanistan we muslims made a mistake and became a judge over people and interfered their privacy, we didnt respect their own wills and dreams. if someone wants to celebrate it, let them do it. if you teach Islam to your son and to your daughter i m sure they wont celebrate it. You cant earn anything with banning these days. more and more people will celebrate it after you ban them. if something is banned, that thing will look sweet and sympathic for people. i think you need to check your idea once more.
Regards
Kansu

well people do murders, rapes, do robbery and sometimes nobody even finds out who was the culprit. So why we have laws to control these crimes? may be while somebody was stealing something and he is accidently caught..... he might say oh no i was just looking at it.. or i was doing this n that....... and might get away with it

Valentines day is Islamically prohibited if peoples follow it thats another case. For example you give flowers to your girl friend......... first of all keeping girl friends is not allowed in Islam and then whatever is next is another sin........ so i better stop here ..... anything involved in Valentines day is just totally unislamic from top to bottom

 

[Hyde]

the point is....... whether you celeberate it or not....... Valentines day is Islamically prohibited

Ok if two husbands and wives celeberate i am not sure........... but usually that is celeberated between two non-married couples and such kind of relationship is not allowed in first place

 

[Hyde]

black blood i notice a lot you are of my type............. you agree with them in each and every thread and i always find your posts matching very interesting to read

 

[Kompromat]

^^ I have said before , When you alter religion to your own needs and wishes it becomes a Night mare.

I think either Follow it or do not Follow it & Become an Atheist that you can do anything you like to do .

What i do not like is " Someone Claims to be a Muslim & then does something which is Prohibited & he/she does it just because they think it is right and whatever we have been told was just Useless?

Anyway Lets end it here " On the Day of judgment everyone is responsibly for themselves only , Your hands and other body parts will testify if you used them to do something wrong . "

Thanks

 

[FreekiN]

You are going too far away from what i have tried to explain sir.

According to our constitution These events are not recognized.

In Pakistan we have separated Schools and Universities for girls.

You have never been to Pakistan i believe , it would be in a blue moon if you see a girl and boy going hand in hand on a street.

It is a different society with different values and what we expect is to be respected for them not be told what to do.

Regards:

Depends where you live. If your live in a super poor slum area, where guns rule the land, then of course you wouldnt see anything like that.

My school was no co-ed but that did not mean after-school activities were also segregated. In the same school, the A-levels were co-educational.

I lived in central Gulberg and spent a lot of my time in Johar Town and Defence in Lahore. Indeed, I saw more guns than I saw love, but that didn't mean i didnt see anyone having co-educational activities. Once, I saw some guy proposing to this beautiful girl, and the crowd had the same reaction a crowd would have in the United States!

EDIT: If your wondering, she said yes to him! xD

 

[karan.1970]

Which is Haram in Islam.

So help me a bit here.. I have been married for some years now and we celebrate valentine day every year. Are you telling me that if I was living in Pakistan, I would have been breaking the law by celebrating a day with my wife??

 

[Kansu]

well people do murders, rapes, do robbery and sometimes nobody even finds out who was the culprit. So why we have laws to control these crimes? may be while somebody was stealing something and he is accidently caught..... he might say oh no i was just looking at it.. or i was doing this n that....... and might get away with it

Valentines day is Islamically prohibited if peoples follow it thats another case. For example you give flowers to your girl friend......... first of all keeping girl friends is not allowed in Islam and then whatever is next is another sin........ so i better stop here ..... anything involved in Valentines day is just totally unislamic from top to bottom

Mr X;
the examples you gave dont conform with our thread. they are crimes and they are all done against someone's will. but we speak about common interest and desire of 2 people. i admit, it is a crime according to law but how will we prevent if these 2 people love eachother?

Having gf is something, loving someone is another gentelman. i think we shouldnt confuse these two with eachother. And our prophet says '' if 2 people loves eachother, help them to marry.'' Then how will we explain this? according to your point even loving a lady is a sin. am i wrong?
Ebu Hanife says; ''love is the penalty of haram glance''.
if you fall in love, can you lust for someone? dont you feel yourself like a girl? i dont want to speak more on it but we should admit that a real lover cant touch the lady whom he loves. as for me i cant imagine more than talking with her.
Gentelmen, there is a secret i will share with you... read carefully please '' you have parents; you werent brought by storks''

So, is forbidding Val's day an option? do we have to be judge over people's thoughts and their own privacy?

 

[Hyde]

^^ I have said before , When you alter religion to your own needs and wishes it becomes a Night mare.

I think either Follow it or do not Follow it & Become an Atheist that you can do anything you like to do .

What i do not like is " Someone Claims to be a Muslim & then does something which is Prohibited & he/she does it just because they think it is right and whatever we have been told was just Useless?

Anyway Lets end it here " On the Day of judgment everyone is responsibly for themselves only , Your hands and other body parts will testify if you used them to do something wrong . "

Thanks

this is a very beautiful verse of the holy qur'an and every Muslim should remember it before doing any kind of sin......... it is a kind of power that sometimes help me avoid doing sins

 

[Hammy007]

Actually it is...where have you been..

I really don't see any harm in telling your loved one that you love them especially if it is in a coffee shop.

The <3 recipient could be your mother, sister, best friend, classmate, girlfriend, wife, GRANDMA!

bhai stop posting here and go and celebrate valentine's day and make love to your girl friend and tell your parents about it ok, nobody is bothering you or stopping you.maybe your sister and brother be celebrating valentine's day too with their lover wish them good luck

best wishes

 

[Kompromat]

black blood i notice a lot you are of my type............. you agree with them in each and every thread and i always find your posts matching very interesting to read

(Off Topic.)

Alhamdullilah , i have never done anything in My whole Life which will make me feel Ashamed in the face of my Beloved Prophet PBUH on the Day of Judgment.

Half of my Life i have spent in the Western societies and my Teen age as well .

Alhamdullilah , None of the prohibited stuff ever made any place in my life & i am not a Mullah but a normal boy with a little knowledge of Islam .

But what i have is Understanding and commitment & i do not choose between "You can Drink , you can do Zina but you cannot eat Pork."

To me what ever is Right is Right whatever is Wrong is Wrong.

BTW there are girls trying to get a chance to have a ride on my Yamaha R1 , God save me

 

[karan.1970]

the point is....... whether you celeberate it or not....... Valentines day is Islamically prohibited

Ok if two husbands and wives celeberate i am not sure........... but usually that is celeberated between two non-married couples and such kind of relationship is not allowed in first place

So is having a boyfriend or a girlfriend illegal in Pakistan?? If not then is giving a greeting card on 14th Feb to your girl/boy friend illegal.. If yes, then are the shops banned from keeping these cards


C'mon guys, we have enough idiots in India with petty protests against western customs. Dont be like them

 

[Kompromat]

So help me a bit here.. I have been married for some years now and we celebrate valentine day every year. Are you telling me that if I was living in Pakistan, I would have been breaking the law by celebrating a day with my wife??

No sir , it just applies before marriage

 

[FreekiN]

bhai go and celebrate valentine's day and make love to your girl friend and tell your parents about it ok.maybe your sister be celebrating valentine's day too with her lover wish her good luck

best wishes

What the heck? When did I mention 'make love'? Valentines Day does not mean SEX! Wow, you people are delusional.

Also, my parents don't know.

So is having a boyfriend or a girlfriend illegal in Pakistan??

Pakistan is semi-secular. Which means they can't do anything about social life's.

If not then is giving a greeting card on 14th Feb to your girl/boy friend illegal.. If yes, then are the shops banned from keeping these cards

No, and no. But people want everything related to it banned. Especially the conservative ones.

C'mon guys, we have enough idiots in India with petty protests against western customs. Dont be like them

Hmm...