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US 'would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and fears the Guam military base is at risk NOW', Pentagon sources warn
  • 'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games revealed the US is vulnerable to China and an attack from the superpower would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses'
  • US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force
  • Every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region is considered to be at risk of attack now with the US island territory Guam a particular concern
  • Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations, sources said
  • A source said the Pentagon is developing more hypersonic weapons and arming marine units along China's seas with anti-ship missiles in preparation
  • The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer
  • Tensions between the US and China have escalated in recent months as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the globe
  • Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19
By RACHEL SHARP FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 14:45 BST, 16 May 2020 | UPDATED: 15:15 BST, 16 May 2020

The US would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and fears the Guam military base is at risk now, US defense sources have warned.

'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games have revealed growing fears the US is vulnerable to threats from China and that any attack would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses', the sources said.

The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer.

The stark warning comes as tensions continue to mount between the two nations after US President Donald Trump has blasted China's handling of the coronavirus pandemic and repeatedly suggested the nation lied about the extent of its crisis.

US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 when China would have new attack submarines, aircraft carriers and destroyers resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force

The threat is more immediate than 2030, however, with every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region considered to be at risk of attack now because China has ramped up its supply of medium-range ballistic missiles.

The US island territory Guam, home to three US military bases, is a particular concern, the games revealed.

'China has long-range anti-ship ballistic missiles and hypersonic [more than five times the speed of sound] missiles,' one US defence source told The Times.

Analysis from US experts on China have issued similar warnings.

Bonnie Glaser, director of the China power project at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington and a consultant for the US government on east Asia, told The Times that Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations and fears tensions could erupt in a nuclear war.

Taiwan has increasingly found itself caught in the middle of the political games between the two superpowers.

The Communist Party in China claims Taiwan as its own territory, but it does not have sovereign control there.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has made it clear he wants Taiwan back under its 'One China' principle by 2050 and this week demanded the island accept Chinese status if it wants to be represented at the World Health Organization assembly next week.

Beijing military activities have been ramped up in the South and East China Seas, including harassing carriers and constructing military outposts on artificial islands it has built in the disputed waters.

Meanwhile, the US has also increased its military presence in the seas and antagonized China by increasing its ties with Taiwan through boosting arms sales to the country.

'Every simulation that has been conducted looking at the threat from China by 2030 have all ended up with the defeat of the US,' said Glaser.

'Taiwan is the most volatile issue because that could escalate to a war with the US, even to a nuclear war.

'In the Pentagon and state department and the White House, China is now seen as the biggest threat. We have been too passive in the past.'

One source told The Times the regional commander Admiral Philip Davidson has also sounded warnings and the Pentagon is switching its approach in preparation.

There's a focus on developing more hypersonic weapons, sending more long-range, ground-launched cruise missiles to the Asia-Pacific region, and arming marine units along China's seas with anti-ship missiles, they said.

'Mark Esper [the defence secretary] is aggressively moving to build the capabilities that we need to deter China from committing to a major confrontation,' they said.

On Friday, President Trump announced the US is developing what he called a 'super-duper missile' which he boasted is '17 times' faster than missiles available right now.

'We are building incredible military equipment,' he said as he staged a 'very special moment' and unveiled the new flag of the Space Force Friday.

'We have, I call it the super-duper missile, and I heard the other night 17 times faster than what they have right now, when you take the fastest missile we have right now. You've heard Russia has five times and China's working on five or six times, we have one 17 times.'

The same day, the US revealed a Taiwanese company would set up a factory in Arizona to make computer chips in the US - taking custom away from China.

Tensions between the US and China have escalated in recent months as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the globe.

The US has led the charge against China over its response to the pandemic.

President Donald Trump has accused Beijing of a series of cover-ups amid the outbreak and said in April he had seen evidence that the virus started in the Wuhan virology laboratory.

He also warned he could impose tariffs of $1 trillion on China in retribution for the pandemic.

Beijing has hit back at the claims with a spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry last month warning the 'enemy is the virus, not China'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ina-fought-Pacific-Pentagon-sources-warn.html
 
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There will be a war. US forces in East Asia will likely be sacrificed but it will be worth it as China's coastal provinces will be devastated and the country will be globally condemned and politically isolated as a pariah after. All MNC's will pull out of China and China will be contained like Iran has been.
 
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There will be a war. US forces in East Asia will likely be sacrificed but it will be worth it as China's coastal provinces will be devastated and the country will be globally condemned and politically isolated as a pariah after. All MNC's will pull out of China and China will be contained like Iran has been.
Dream on, China produces everything on this planet, US produces nothing, see who will be contained and isolated, even EU doesn't follow US as it used to do. China can beat US in 1950 in Korea when China was one of the poorest region in the world, now China is among one of the richest.

This coronavirus showed the world that how fast and efficient that China can mobilise all the available rescources all across China with all China's manufacturing might in a very short span of time to fight a crisis.
Also this virus exposed US being a paper tiger, failed in everything.
 
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US 'would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and fears the Guam military base is at risk NOW', Pentagon sources warn
  • 'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games revealed the US is vulnerable to China and an attack from the superpower would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses'
  • US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force
  • Every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region is considered to be at risk of attack now with the US island territory Guam a particular concern
  • Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations, sources said
  • A source said the Pentagon is developing more hypersonic weapons and arming marine units along China's seas with anti-ship missiles in preparation
  • The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer
  • Tensions between the US and China have escalated in recent months as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the globe
  • Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19
By RACHEL SHARP FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 14:45 BST, 16 May 2020 | UPDATED: 15:15 BST, 16 May 2020

The US would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and fears the Guam military base is at risk now, US defense sources have warned.

'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games have revealed growing fears the US is vulnerable to threats from China and that any attack would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses', the sources said.

The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer.

The stark warning comes as tensions continue to mount between the two nations after US President Donald Trump has blasted China's handling of the coronavirus pandemic and repeatedly suggested the nation lied about the extent of its crisis.

US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 when China would have new attack submarines, aircraft carriers and destroyers resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force

The threat is more immediate than 2030, however, with every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region considered to be at risk of attack now because China has ramped up its supply of medium-range ballistic missiles.

The US island territory Guam, home to three US military bases, is a particular concern, the games revealed.

'China has long-range anti-ship ballistic missiles and hypersonic [more than five times the speed of sound] missiles,' one US defence source told The Times.

Analysis from US experts on China have issued similar warnings.

Bonnie Glaser, director of the China power project at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington and a consultant for the US government on east Asia, told The Times that Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations and fears tensions could erupt in a nuclear war.

Taiwan has increasingly found itself caught in the middle of the political games between the two superpowers.

The Communist Party in China claims Taiwan as its own territory, but it does not have sovereign control there.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has made it clear he wants Taiwan back under its 'One China' principle by 2050 and this week demanded the island accept Chinese status if it wants to be represented at the World Health Organization assembly next week.

Beijing military activities have been ramped up in the South and East China Seas, including harassing carriers and constructing military outposts on artificial islands it has built in the disputed waters.

Meanwhile, the US has also increased its military presence in the seas and antagonized China by increasing its ties with Taiwan through boosting arms sales to the country.

'Every simulation that has been conducted looking at the threat from China by 2030 have all ended up with the defeat of the US,' said Glaser.

'Taiwan is the most volatile issue because that could escalate to a war with the US, even to a nuclear war.

'In the Pentagon and state department and the White House, China is now seen as the biggest threat. We have been too passive in the past.'

One source told The Times the regional commander Admiral Philip Davidson has also sounded warnings and the Pentagon is switching its approach in preparation.

There's a focus on developing more hypersonic weapons, sending more long-range, ground-launched cruise missiles to the Asia-Pacific region, and arming marine units along China's seas with anti-ship missiles, they said.

'Mark Esper [the defence secretary] is aggressively moving to build the capabilities that we need to deter China from committing to a major confrontation,' they said.

On Friday, President Trump announced the US is developing what he called a 'super-duper missile' which he boasted is '17 times' faster than missiles available right now.

'We are building incredible military equipment,' he said as he staged a 'very special moment' and unveiled the new flag of the Space Force Friday.

'We have, I call it the super-duper missile, and I heard the other night 17 times faster than what they have right now, when you take the fastest missile we have right now. You've heard Russia has five times and China's working on five or six times, we have one 17 times.'

The same day, the US revealed a Taiwanese company would set up a factory in Arizona to make computer chips in the US - taking custom away from China.

Tensions between the US and China have escalated in recent months as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the globe.

The US has led the charge against China over its response to the pandemic.

President Donald Trump has accused Beijing of a series of cover-ups amid the outbreak and said in April he had seen evidence that the virus started in the Wuhan virology laboratory.

He also warned he could impose tariffs of $1 trillion on China in retribution for the pandemic.

Beijing has hit back at the claims with a spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry last month warning the 'enemy is the virus, not China'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ina-fought-Pacific-Pentagon-sources-warn.html



Funding, funding, funding....

Past US war games have also seen the US defeated by Russia and Iran.

It’s all about funding the US military machine. People should have realized that after the ‘bomber and missile gap’ relative to the Soviet Union that ultimately never existed.
 
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Funding, funding, funding....

Past US war games have also seen the US defeated by Russia and Iran.

It’s all about funding the US military machine. People should have realized that after the ‘bomber and missile gap’ relative to the Soviet Union that ultimately never existed.
China has many weapons of selection to easily swarm US navy in west Pacific, that's not a secret.
 
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why fight a war ? china already won from USA without firing a single shot . US is on decline and they will try to drag china in mess . stay alert US will be next UK with in 30 years .
 
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US 'would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and fears the Guam military base is at risk NOW', Pentagon sources warn
  • 'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games revealed the US is vulnerable to China and an attack from the superpower would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses'
  • US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force
  • Every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region is considered to be at risk of attack now with the US island territory Guam a particular concern
  • Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations, sources said
  • A source said the Pentagon is developing more hypersonic weapons and arming marine units along China's seas with anti-ship missiles in preparation
  • The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer
  • Tensions between the US and China have escalated in recent months as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the globe
  • Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19
By RACHEL SHARP FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 14:45 BST, 16 May 2020 | UPDATED: 15:15 BST, 16 May 2020

The US would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and fears the Guam military base is at risk now, US defense sources have warned.

'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games have revealed growing fears the US is vulnerable to threats from China and that any attack would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses', the sources said.

The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer.

The stark warning comes as tensions continue to mount between the two nations after US President Donald Trump has blasted China's handling of the coronavirus pandemic and repeatedly suggested the nation lied about the extent of its crisis.

US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 when China would have new attack submarines, aircraft carriers and destroyers resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force

The threat is more immediate than 2030, however, with every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region considered to be at risk of attack now because China has ramped up its supply of medium-range ballistic missiles.

The US island territory Guam, home to three US military bases, is a particular concern, the games revealed.

'China has long-range anti-ship ballistic missiles and hypersonic [more than five times the speed of sound] missiles,' one US defence source told The Times.

Analysis from US experts on China have issued similar warnings.

Bonnie Glaser, director of the China power project at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington and a consultant for the US government on east Asia, told The Times that Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations and fears tensions could erupt in a nuclear war.

Taiwan has increasingly found itself caught in the middle of the political games between the two superpowers.

The Communist Party in China claims Taiwan as its own territory, but it does not have sovereign control there.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has made it clear he wants Taiwan back under its 'One China' principle by 2050 and this week demanded the island accept Chinese status if it wants to be represented at the World Health Organization assembly next week.

Beijing military activities have been ramped up in the South and East China Seas, including harassing carriers and constructing military outposts on artificial islands it has built in the disputed waters.

Meanwhile, the US has also increased its military presence in the seas and antagonized China by increasing its ties with Taiwan through boosting arms sales to the country.

'Every simulation that has been conducted looking at the threat from China by 2030 have all ended up with the defeat of the US,' said Glaser.

'Taiwan is the most volatile issue because that could escalate to a war with the US, even to a nuclear war.

'In the Pentagon and state department and the White House, China is now seen as the biggest threat. We have been too passive in the past.'

One source told The Times the regional commander Admiral Philip Davidson has also sounded warnings and the Pentagon is switching its approach in preparation.

There's a focus on developing more hypersonic weapons, sending more long-range, ground-launched cruise missiles to the Asia-Pacific region, and arming marine units along China's seas with anti-ship missiles, they said.

'Mark Esper [the defence secretary] is aggressively moving to build the capabilities that we need to deter China from committing to a major confrontation,' they said.

On Friday, President Trump announced the US is developing what he called a 'super-duper missile' which he boasted is '17 times' faster than missiles available right now.

'We are building incredible military equipment,' he said as he staged a 'very special moment' and unveiled the new flag of the Space Force Friday.

'We have, I call it the super-duper missile, and I heard the other night 17 times faster than what they have right now, when you take the fastest missile we have right now. You've heard Russia has five times and China's working on five or six times, we have one 17 times.'

The same day, the US revealed a Taiwanese company would set up a factory in Arizona to make computer chips in the US - taking custom away from China.

Tensions between the US and China have escalated in recent months as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the globe.

The US has led the charge against China over its response to the pandemic.

President Donald Trump has accused Beijing of a series of cover-ups amid the outbreak and said in April he had seen evidence that the virus started in the Wuhan virology laboratory.

He also warned he could impose tariffs of $1 trillion on China in retribution for the pandemic.

Beijing has hit back at the claims with a spokesman for China's Foreign Ministry last month warning the 'enemy is the virus, not China'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ina-fought-Pacific-Pentagon-sources-warn.html

The Yanks think all nations are looking to follow their confrontational style of world dominance. Their planning assumes that China is just itching to attack them --- even though all evidence points to the fact that China plays the long game and wishes to become an economic superpower and rule the world through cooperation.

Otherwise China could have first turned India into rubble fairly easily (regional rival.)
 
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China has many weapons of selection to easily swarm US navy in west Pacific, that's not a secret.


The US isn’t deterred. We’re literally flying and sailing near Chinese coastlines weekly. A US P-8 was flying only 30 miles off of Hainan last week with no Chinese response. And the US also has a ton of weapons it can choose from to destroy Chinese ambitions.
 
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The US isn’t deterred. We’re literally flying and sailing near Chinese coastlines weekly. A US P-8 was flying only 30 miles off of Hainan last week with no Chinese response. And the US also has a ton of weapons it can choose from to destroy Chinese ambitions.
But what did you do? Did you do anything other than "sailing by"? We just laugh at your child play, so pathetic.
 
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I believe it is very likely that the US will manufacture a war with China during or before October as it always does using Covid as a pretext.

I,m not sure how well China is prepared, its a manufacturing powerhouse but warfare is more than manufacturing... when was the last time China had any real combat experience ?
 
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What we’re doing is gathering intelligence, especially the electronic order of battle.
You've been "gathering for 7 decades" already, what US does is just a childplay, it's no more than a joke in our eyes.

I believe it is very likely that the US will manufacture a war with China during or before October as it always does using Covid as a pretext.

I,m not sure how well China is prepared, its a manufacturing powerhouse but warfare is more than manufacturing... when was the last time China had any real combat experience ?
You overestimated US, they never get enough balls in front of China, they can't even handle North Korea.
 
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