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US would intervene with military to defend Taiwan

Extremely difficult even if the crossing is uncontested, which it wont be at all. That’s over 100km of open water that cannot be crossed safely by large vessels except for two periods of the year. Add to that the total lack of the element of surprise and you see why such an operation is near impossible at the moment. China doesn’t have the heavy left capability to move the forces required and at the moment cannot guarantee it can keep the USN 7th fleet at more than arm’s reach.
 
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Extremely difficult even if the crossing is uncontested, which it wont be at all. That’s over 100km of open water that cannot be crossed safely by large vessels except for two periods of the year. Add to that the total lack of the element of surprise and you see why such an operation is near impossible at the moment. China doesn’t have the heavy left capability to move the forces required and at the moment cannot guarantee it can keep the USN 7th fleet at more than arm’s reach.
What do you think DF-17, DF-21, DF-26, 70+ subs, type 055, type 052, missiles on shores and PLANAF used for ? Just toys ?
 
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What do you think DF-17, DF-21, DF-26, 70+ subs, type 055, type 052, missiles on shores and PLANAF used for ? Just toys ?

Power projection. When you can park a fully functioning airbase, that holds more planes than most countries entire airforces, 3 miles off any shore, multiple times over, across the globe. It send a message to any nation that would miss behave, that if you want to challenge the US they will bring the war to YOU not the other way around
 
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Power projection. When you can park a fully functioning airbase, that holds more planes than most countries entire airforces, 3 miles off any shore, multiple times over, across the globe. It send a message to any nation that would miss behave, that if you want to challenge the US they will bring the war to YOU not the other way around
In war time, US aircraft carriers won't dare to get close to 1500 KM from Chinese shore, let alone say 3 miles. Or they will be very likely sink.
 
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Every single American military base in Asia Pacific need to be wiped off the map if the Americans attack China in a reunification operation. This is why it is stupid to have no-first-use nuclear policy and minimal nuclear deterrence.

And what experience does China have?

What experience does the US have? And no, beating up weak and defensless countries is not an answer.
 
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People tend to forget China has a lot of options without the need to invade, If the Japanese wannabes declare independent then China can invade with no issues.
 
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From now on it seems that west is taking harder attitude towards authoritarian countries and that change has been prompted by China's no-limit friend Russia with their Ukrainian invasion.



I'm sure Xi will be sending "thank you" letter for Putin.

Russia is and has been 100% correct in its military operation in Ukraine. Nazis must be wiped off the map. They should have done this operation in 2014.
 
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Korean war, Vietnam war.

Great, and how many people who served in those wars are still in PLA?

Also, You forgot Sino-Vietnamese war.

Russia is and has been 100% correct in its military operation in Ukraine. Nazis must be wiped off the map. They should have done this operation in 2014.

They should start with their Wagner battalion then.

It also raises questions why has Russia supported European neo-nazis more or less openly if they dont supposedly like them.
 
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When the last real war US fought? Don't tell me in Syria and Afghanistan.


:mad:Dont embarass USA that much by asking them about countries the USA defeated in and crawled out with pee and shit running down legs of their pants.

Ask them about the wars that USA won, such as their valiant wars in Grenada and Panama and Nicaragua. :D :yay:

USA fanboys will be very ready to stand on their soap boxes and wax lyrical on their victories then:enjoy:
 
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In war time, US aircraft carriers won't dare to get close to 1500 KM from Chinese shore, let alone say 3 miles. Or they will be very likely sink.
In war time, even USA carriers hiding in Frisco Bay or off Long Island in Atlantic Ocean will be tracked and sailors in them will remain eternally un-aging





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I bad bad and mistaken!
My apologies.

I always thought USA carriers will be safe if they hiding in Frisco bay or Hudson Bay or in Atlantic Ocean.
And not cross West of 3rd Island Chain, the carriers will not be tracked.

I never realised Chinese satellite know where the carriers are anywhere they are and direction and speed they going

Even off the coast of Long Island in New York, China also know. Together with the accompanying USA warships.

Nowhere can the USA carriers hide to spring out to surprise China.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...atellite-tracks-us-aircraft-carrier-real-time

Chinese smart satellite tracks US aircraft carrier in real time, researchers say

  • AI-powered eye in the sky could identify a wide range of tactical or strategic targets, developers say
  • Previously, a huge amount of raw satellite data had to be analysed on the ground

Stephen Chen
Stephen Chen in Beijing
Published: 12:05am, 10 May, 2022


Chinese researchers say a smart satellite tracked the USS Harry S. Truman during a drill last year. Photo: US Navy



Chinese researchers say a smart satellite tracked the USS Harry S. Truman during a drill last year. Photo: US Navy

When USS Harry S. Truman was heading to a strait transit drill off the coast of Long Island in New York on June 17 last year, a Chinese remote sensing satellite powered by the latest artificial intelligence technology automatically detected the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier and alerted Beijing with the precise coordinates, according to a new study by Chinese space scientists.

The live-fire exercise that day involved a joint action of seven warships and many planes to simulate a fight against a powerful enemy while passing a narrow passage of water.

The fleet tested numerous tactics such as changing formation and making emergency manoeuvres to deter enemy submarines and other threats, according to the US Navy.

In the past, the Chinese military had to collect and analyse a huge amount of raw satellite data on the ground to get a clue on the details of such drills taking place in the US home waters, and the results usually came after the event was over.

But with AI-powered satellites, Beijing could detect and “live stream” military activities or assets of interest on the other side of the planet, according to space scientist Yang Fang and her colleagues with DFH Satellite in Beijing in a paper published in domestic peer-reviewed journal Spacecraft Engineering last month.

The satellite that caught the US aircraft carrier in the act was so smart, it could identify a wide range of tactical or strategic targets by analysing more than 200 frames of high-definition images per second, a speed that some ground-based computers would struggle to achieve, according to the Chinese team.

Putting AI into space involved many challenges, according to a Beijing-based satellite imaging researcher who was informed about the study but requested not to be named due to the sensitivity of the technology.

The mainstream AI algorithms required extensive training based on a huge amount of data, but the calculation resources in the orbit were rather limited, he said.

Satellite computers usually trail far behind their counterparts on the ground in processing speed due to weight, space and power constraints.

And they have to work for years without a glitch in a harsh environment. Most chips designed to handle AI tasks would fail quickly under strong radiation, according to the researcher.

Yang’s team said that they had achieved a breakthrough on “weight reduction” for AI technology. The image recognition with the algorithm they developed for the satellite consumed just 3 per cent of the calculation resources used by traditional algorithms when doing the same task, according to their paper.

They also made a new family of AI chipsets that could do many different types of jobs simultaneously on board the satellite.

If one chip failed, another would serve as backup and immediately take over the job to ensure the continuous functioning of the satellite.

There were some clouds over the New York region during the USS Harry S. Truman strike group exercise.

The Chinese satellite identified the aircraft carrier in the gaps of clouds with a sharp image containing so much detail that it almost ruled out the possibility of a mistake, according to Yang’s team.

In another test to verify the performance of space-based AI, the same satellite automatically detected and obtained the coordinates of military aircraft, naval ships and strategic assets such as oil storage tanks in northeastern Australia.

The researchers did not name the satellite reported in their paper. Yang could not be reached for comment.

Several small satellites launched by Chinese universities, government institutes and private companies in recent years have employed AI to improve China’s response to events happening around the world, according to openly available information.

Yang and her colleagues said the smart satellite could increase the communication efficiency with home by a million times because the AI would remove most of the junk information that jammed the communication channels.

China also has a plan to bring AI to its older remote sensing satellites, according to researchers involved in StarNet, an global internet satellite project launched by the Chinese government last year.

StarNet will only have about 400 satellites, many fewer than the US’ Starlink and OneWeb networks.

But some of these Chinese communication satellites would carry AI processors to boost their performance.

These smart communication satellites could receive and analyse raw data from traditional remote sensing satellites, identify targets of interest, and then pass the information to end users at home with little time delay, the project’s scientists said in a paper published in domestic peer-reviewed journal Telecommunications Science last month.

But a major concern to the space community was the “black box” problem, that humans did not fully understand how the AI learned and thought, they said.
 
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THERE WILL BE WAR WITH MURICA AND JAPAN AND ALL OTHERS THAT DARE TO STAND WITH MURICA ON TAIWAN

Thereby allowing China to exert full compensation for Nanjing Massacre and Unit 731

Raze Yasakuni Shrine to the ground and built either memorial to Comfort Women there or a public toilet with Japanese Emperor as the custodian of the toilet.

OKINAWA RYUKUS AND HOKKAIDO WILL BE FREED



GUAM WILL BE FREED AND SO WILL HAWAII
AND UNDER PROTECTION OF CHINA


https://****/EurasianChoice/19928
**** = t dot me

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JUST IN - American troops would defend Taiwan if invaded by China, says Biden.

@disclosetvAZPat:
Joes an idiot.
US cannot project force in the pacific against a serious enemy.

Jon:
I dare him to do it, and frankly I doubt very much that it would happen.

⚜️🐭:
Washington is already saying he misspoke. That US policy is still “one china.” Biden is a brain dead vegetable

P V:
Taiwan is China

Brannon Turner:
It’s difficult to keep a senile puppet from running his trap 🪤Ergi:
Now its up to China to show USA what they can and what they can't do

D M:
I wonder how many takes Biden had for this conversation. He never talks this coherently live

Lev Bronstein:
100%, Taiwan is China

🇷🇺🕊Retroas🔔🐻:
But what if it's invaded by Russia instead? Jk.

M:
Hypersonic carrier killer missiles have a thing or two to say

M@x:
What are they going to use for the defense of taiwan when all their stuff is already peacefully resting burnt out at ukrainian roadsides.....

PP:
Ofcourse, they want to Disstablize another region after what they did to the middle east

Dimitrije:
Americans would suffer huge casualties if that happens… they can’t stomach it when hundreds of Americans are killed daily

Brillo:
We out number the Chinese in pronouns. Wait until they see our Zers and Theys in combat

D M:
Yeh they won’t officially send soldiers there. They can’t stand losing a single soldier. But they will happily sacrifice Taiwans and Ukraines

Brillo:
We have 1000s of pronouns … do try and keep up. It’s our latest export

Dark Chicago:
It’s a thing. US LGBTQIIA is toxic

dzareth:
Do they even understand what ONE means? Are they stupid in math or something? And Taiwan, you would have more freedom, safety and security if you negotiate with China for guarantees as an autonomous zone or exclusive zone because the US are using you - the way they used Ukraine, Afghanistan, Kosovo and others. You will be discarded once they reach their objectives. You can at least negotiate with China terms that would be favourable like reunification is subject to referendum results. If 70% agrees for reunification, then the reunification process starts. Otherwise, maintain status quo until next referendum - say in 3 to 5 years. China is not unreasonable and you are of the same people. Allowing external interference would only complicate matters.

Hoka Sumi:
Fcktard Scumbag dementia President Joe Pooden 💩💩💩

Hoshizora:
remember what mcgregor said last time?? US practically can send their troops to taiwan but with heavy cost and their would be massive casualties on US troops bcs basically they move towards Dragon's lair. China have thousand ballistic missiles aimed at their coast line serve as coastal defense, so any reinforcement arrives to taiwan will be sunk. also US need to travel thousand miles to transport their troops and supply but since China have superiority in the region, any troops and supply transfer by US will be wasted even if they protect it with their carrier fleet

Kremlin Sponsored Bot:
Lying through his teeth. Says they aren't encouraging Taiwan to be independent yet they sell them F-35s and Patriot missile systems.

And the US does not have any mutual defense treaty with Taiwan so we are not required to defend them. If he thinks the American public will go along with a war against China that lasts longer than a month he's even more insane than I think

Jim Dooley:
So now Beijing sinks, from the mainland, anything headed West from the USA if they invade. They use maneuvering hypersonics on volleys at long range.

Any launch on the mainland is perceived as nuclear and the response is launched.

Why would he ever say this? Even with the WH saying he’s FOS, China is going to act on his stupid assertion now.

laurie campbell:
He is demented and exhibiting childish divisive power fantasies.
 
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BBC News - Biden again says US would defend Taiwan if China attacks

No one hopes this will happen.

Because it will be WW3.

But eventually, it will happen for this reason or another reason.

If not in this generation, the next, or even another next.
 
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no war as long as world economy is dollar dependent
 
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