US want to kill more Pakistan people

[VCheng]

But that's exactly it; isn't the US abusing it's power to bully both the UN and Pakistan?

The UN depends too much on the US to take legal action against them; and Pakistan can't really retaliate because the US has got the world by the balls: if they support Pakistan or fail to condemn Pakistan retaliating to protect itself against the US, the Yanks are going to squeeze their nuts till they beg and apologise for not blindly supporting them.

Isn't this terrorism; or is this perfectly justifiable? Talk about "peace missions"...

Welcome to the real world!

 

[DRaisinHerald]

Welcome to the real world!

Thanks, at least you admit the US is in the wrong

 

[VCheng]

Thanks, at least you admit the US is in the wrong

There is no right or wrong here; just the way the world has always worked and always will.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

There is no right or wrong here; just the way the world has always worked and always will.

Of course; how could I forget such basic truth.

The lives of the scum Pakistani isn't worth too much at all; because some wacko killed 3000 Americans, the whole Muslim world, especcially Pakistan, must suffer from the dire consequences.
100000+ Iraqi lives were not enough to satisfy the thirst for blood, 10s of thousands of Afghans lives were not enough, Uncle Sam needs to taste some (alot) of Pakistani blood as well.

Very normal, it all makes perfect sense. We should just shut up and let it all happen, especially those of us chilling in the US and the UK, who are not suffering anyway.

 

[junaid1]

Under post-9/11 international law (UNSCR 1373) it isn't illegal for the U.S. to strike at terrorists without the permission of the government that tolerates them; in such a case sovereignty doesn't apply. Haven't you noticed the near-total lack of support for Pakistan's position in international forums and from "friends" like China? Since Pakistani sovereignty doesn't apply Pakistan's complaints are, quite literally, not even worth acknowledging or commenting on by the world's diplomats.

hahahah ........... looks like only Americans are human in this world . so so so disappointed that Americans think in that way .one amercian dies and they will be happy to kill 1000 innocent people in ex-change . what a justification U.S is real terrorist facilitated by U.N / NATO . shame on U.S.A

 

[Rod of God]

US want to kill more Pakistan people...

Only the 'bad' ones.:

 

[DRaisinHerald]

Only the 'bad' ones.:

1000 good people die for every bad person the US kills..

 

[junaid1]

Only the 'bad' ones.:

how you guys differentiate B/W good one's and bad one .let me translate .

good one's are those who justify American aggression .

bad one's are those who ask American's to just shut-up and don't interfere in country matters .

 

[VCheng]

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The lives of the scum Pakistani isn't worth too much at all; .............

Is that why you guys let ISI "disappear" people only to show up later either dead or so malnourished and tortured to be close to death? If your own government and agencies don't respect you how can you expect anyone else in the world to do so, let alone USA?

 

[ARSENAL6]

Is that why you guys let ISI "disappear" people only to show up later either dead or so malnourished and tortured to be close to death? ?

NO that credit is given to the CIA, NeoCOns, NWO, Whitehouse Zionist, backed dictators by US officials in the ME, everywhere, everytime, period

Of course; how could I forget such basic truth.

The lives of the scum Pakistani isn't worth too much at all; because some wacko killed 3000 Americans, the whole Muslim world, especcially Pakistan, must suffer from the dire consequences.
100000+ Iraqi lives were not enough to satisfy the thirst for blood, 10s of thousands of Afghans lives were not enough, Uncle Sam needs to taste some (alot) of Pakistani blood as well.

COuld you remember another person with that kind of tendancy see below

- Saddam Hussian
- Hitler
- Starlin
- Chairman Mow
- That guy in N korea
- Geffory Dahmore
- Aileen Wuornos

yet people who want to bomb and kill more are just as bad as those listed.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

There is no right or wrong here; just the way the world has always worked and always will.

There is always 'right and wrong', regardless of the 'way the world has always worked'.

And there are always people aligned with the 'powerful' (the powerful in many cases doing wrong and getting away with it) that bring up the intellectually bankrupt refrain you did above, and play a significant role in perpetuating 'wrong' through obfuscation and disingenuous arguments of 'there is no wrong or right, just the way the world has always worked'.

I have pointed this out before - the positions you take on this issue would be welcome in the palaces of Saddam, Gaddafi, Hitler (and the US Establishment) and every corrupt and vile feudal/sardar in Pakistan.

 

[VCheng]

There is always 'right and wrong', ...................

..... as long as it is defined according to your own wishes.

That is the problem with absolutist thinking like you subscribe to: who gets to define what is right and wrong?

Do you know for sure what is right and wrong? How? And by what authority?

And before you go telling me killing is wrong, read the story in Surah Kahf about Hazrat Musa and Hazrat Khizar and how he killed a young boy, among other things.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

..... as long as it is defined according to your own wishes.

That is the problem with absolutist thinking like you subscribe to: who gets to define what is right and wrong?

Do you know for sure what is right and wrong? How? And by what authority?

Arguing over the 'definition of what is right or wrong' leads to compromise and negotiations.

What is absolutist is your position of 'might is right', which leads no room for discourse, negotiations and compromise.

And before you go telling me killing is wrong, read the story in Surah Kahf about Hazrat Musa and Hazrat Khizar and how he killed a young boy, among other things.

Sorry, I don't resort to religious texts or stories for substantiating non-religion based arguments.

 

[VCheng]

Arguing over the 'definition of what is right or wrong' leads to compromise and negotiations.

What is absolutist is your position of 'might is right', which leads no room for discourse, negotiations and compromise.

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Compromise and negotiations are a good thing! (I think you just proved again who is the rigid absolutist here! )

I have not declared any absolute positions in this forum: even the "mighty and always right" USA is negotiating and compromising because those are the correct things to do. Having said that, negotiating from a position of power is always advantageous.

 

[lem34]

Is that why you guys let ISI "disappear" people only to show up later either dead or so malnourished and tortured to be close to death? If your own government and agencies don't respect you how can you expect anyone else in the world to do so, let alone USA?

Why is it that you are prepared to make allegations in the absence of evidence against ISI. But on the other hand you choose to ignore the well know excess of AIPAC sponsored regime in Washington

Arguing over the 'definition of what is right or wrong' leads to compromise and negotiations.

What is absolutist is your position of 'might is right', which leads no room for discourse, negotiations and compromise.

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That's basically Cheng's position but like the Americans he tries to justify the unjustifiable