US to use Afghanistan as base of drone attacks in Pakistan - Times of India

[Obambam]

Duh ! do you even know why the NATO (US) came into Afg in the first place ?

I did not realize I was speaking to a person who did not even know that.

Then perhaps you can tell everyone why? since you know so well?

 

[Obambam]

Somebody had told me that this Obambam guy was one of the more sensible Chinese here.

My Oh My!

Yes but no one told you that you do not have to be sensible with trolls who are clearly not sensible to begin with? *facepalm*

 

[KS]

Then perhaps you can tell everyone why? since you know so well?

Al-Qaeda hosted by the Taliban trained 19 youngsters to ram 4 planes into the WTC,Pentagon killing more than 4000 civilians.

The US before declaring war asked the Taliban to surrender the Al-Qaeda and be cool with it, but the Talibunnies refused that and the rest as they say is history.

Is it ok ?

And let me get back to your non existent exploded mind:

Easy on the ad-hominem champ, every one has a keyboard to indulge in that.

You said no one will give a damn if they weren't killing on a international scale right?

Yes.

So if they are killing their own, the world is fine with it?

Yes. Then it will be Pak's internal problem which no nation has any right to interfere just like Maoists is an Indian internal issue or Xinjiang is a Chinese internal issue.

I then raised the issue that no, they do care and I used Syria as an example and you know why? Because they care when it affects their interests. Right now the western interest is to control the resources in the ME and to suffocate Asia is it not? Is America and its NATO allies really out there to help and defend peace? Doing do without benefits? So long they can turn things around to benefit them, they would. So even though it is not an international issue, they will do their best to make it one. If they can say Syria is an international issue, what makes you think that India's Hindu terrorism isn't and cannot be an international issue which can be addressed by droning?

Because while in Syria they see a regime that is actively arming the Hezbollah and Hamas - two terrorist groups in Palestine whose only aim is destroying Israel. And your comparison of Syria with a non-existent Hindu terrorism is frankly foolish.

And please no vitriol about West trying to control resources - your nation as well as mine does it all the time in Africa,Central Asia.

 

[Developereo]

Al-Qaeda hosted by the Taliban trained 19 youngsters to ram 4 planes into the WTC,Pentagon killing more than 4000 civilians.

The US before declaring war asked the Taliban to surrender the Al-Qaeda and be cool with it, but the Talibunnies refused that and the rest as they say is history.

Is it ok ?

That is factually incorrect.

The Taliban offered to extradite Bin Laden to a neutral country if the US provided proof of his guilt. The US refused because they wanted to invade anyway. The real reasons for the invasion have to do with Afghanistan's location; 9/11 was just a pretext.

 

[KS]

That is factually incorrect.

The Taliban offered to extradite Bin Laden to a neutral country if the US provided proof of his guilt. The US refused because they wanted to invade anyway. The real reasons for the invasion have to do with Afghanistan's location; 9/11 was just a pretext.

Fine the expected answer has come.

9/11 was a conspiracy which was done by CIA to invade Afg.

Pardon me, I am not strong in the realm of conspiracy theories.

 

[Developereo]

Fine the expected answer has come.

9/11 was a conspiracy which was done by CIA to invade Afg.

Pardon me, I am not strong in the realm of conspiracy theories.

I said pretext; not conspiracy.

Please learn the difference instead of getting angry because your premise (Taliban sheltering Bin Laden) has been shown to be false.

 

[Ignited Mind]

Fine the expected answer has come.

9/11 was a conspiracy which was done by CIA to invade Afg.

Pardon me, I am not strong in the realm of conspiracy theories.

See! What did I tell you?

 

[Ahmad]

I said pretext; not conspiracy.

Please learn the difference instead of getting angry because your premise (Taliban sheltering Bin Laden) has been shown to be false.

how was it been proven false?

 

[Obambam]

Al-Qaeda hosted by the Taliban trained 19 youngsters to ram 4 planes into the WTC,Pentagon killing more than 4000 civilians.

The US before declaring war asked the Taliban to surrender the Al-Qaeda and be cool with it, but the Talibunnies refused that and the rest as they say is history.

Is it ok ?

It is also said that Al-Qaeda is fake. Made up to give them a reason to start a war in Afghasnitan. Both the media and the US government, in chorus, continue to point to the 9/11 attacks and the role of Al Qaeda led by "terrorist mastermind" Osama bin Laden. To this date, however, there is no proof that Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks? Other than 'claims' and 'allegations'? So are you suggesting that it is fine to wage war on a nation of 28million people based on allegations?

Perhaps you should watch the BBC documentary called: “The Power of Nightmares“.

What is the justification for waging war on a country of 28 million people?

Easy on the ad-hominem champ, every one has a keyboard to indulge in that.

And your point is?

Yes.

Really?

Yes. Then it will be Pak's internal problem which no nation has any right to interfere just like Maoists is an Indian internal issue or Xinjiang is a Chinese internal issue.

Contradicting when they are not saying the same about Syria. Excuses to bomb Syria is they are killing its own people is it not? Now they are trying to spin it and say they armed terrorists? So when America said Iraq has WMD did they find any? I suggest you to think clearly and not just go by what people say and become a sheeple

Because while in Syria they see a regime that is actively arming the Hezbollah and Hamas - two terrorist groups in Palestine whose only aim is destroying Israel. And your comparison of Syria with a non-existent Hindu terrorism is frankly foolish.

And is that factual? and if say for arguments sake it is, does it not resemble what NATO is doing? i.e. arming rebels against Libyan government?
And I never compared Syria with Hindu Terrorism. So don't get things mixed up here. I suggest you go and read from the earlier pages and stop being foolish. Then you will see the argument was about - it does not take killing civilians in foreign countries to turn things into an international issue. NATO will do it's best to turn things around and taylor iit in favour towards them. Are you also trying to say Israel is innocent and is in danger, but not the other way around?

And please no vitriol about West trying to control resources - your nation as well as mine does it all the time in Africa,Central Asia.

By force or via trade? care to explain the difference?

 

[Developereo]

how was it been proven false?

The claim was that the Taliban were sheltering Bin Laden. The fact is that they were willing to extradite him to a neutral country to face trial if evidence of his guilt were provided. The US refused to provide evidence -- for whatever reason. The US demand was to hand over Bin Laden to them without evidence and, when the Taliban predictably refused, the US invaded.

No country is going to extradite people without evidence of guilt. The US demand was deliberately unreasonable because they were looking for a pretext to invade.

 

[Ammyy]

It is also said that Al-Qaeda is fake. Made up to give them a reason to start a war in Afghasnitan. Both the media and the US government, in chorus, continue to point to the 9/11 attacks and the role of Al Qaeda led by "terrorist mastermind" Osama bin Laden. To this date, however, there is no proof that Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks? Other than 'claims' and 'allegations'? So are you suggesting that it is fine to wage war on a nation of 28million people based on allegations?

I think if any terrorist kill your 5 thousand innocent citizen so you dnt need any other excuse to attack on them

I am sure if any thing like this happened to your country so your country will do the same

 

[Ahmad]

The claim was that the Taliban were sheltering Bin Laden. The fact is that they were willing to extradite him to a neutral country to face trial if evidence of his guilt were provided. The US refused to provide evidence -- for whatever reason. The US demand was to hand over Bin Laden to them without evidence and, when the Taliban predictably refused, the US invaded.

No country is going to extradite people without evidence of guilt. The US demand was deliberately unreasonable because they were looking for a pretext to invade.

we all know about the above(fascinating) story, but that doestn prove the taliban didnt shelter bideen laden.

 

[Obambam]

I think if any terrorist kill your 5 thousand innocent citizen so you dnt need any other excuse to attack on them

I am sure if any thing like this happened to your country so your country will do the same

Are Afghanistan and the Al-Qaeda proven to be behind it together? There is no prove and therefore the war was not justified. Mind you Chinese people died too on that fateful day. I am not saying terrorism is fine, but to blow it out of proportion and use it as an excuse to wage war based solely on allegation cannot be justified. And patriotism is no excuse for any war.

 

[Ahmad]

It is also said that Al-Qaeda is fake. Made up to give them a reason to start a war in Afghasnitan. Both the media and the US government, in chorus, continue to point to the 9/11 attacks and the role of Al Qaeda led by "terrorist mastermind" Osama bin Laden. To this date, however, there is no proof that Al Qaeda was behind the 9/11 attacks? Other than 'claims' and 'allegations'? So are you suggesting that it is fine to wage war on a nation of 28million people based on allegations?

perhaps you havent been haunted by al qaeda, that is why you call their existence fake.

 

[Ignited Mind]

I think if any terrorist kill your 5 thousand innocent citizen so you dnt need any other excuse to attack on them

I am sure if any thing like this happened to your country so your country will do the same

Same? China will nuke them. I can give you this on stamp paper.

The world should be thankful to US that they didn't nuke Afghanistan. Only a democracy can do that.

China would not think twice before nuking them.