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- Trump going all out war against China. additional $200B products face 10% tariffs after review.
- List released Tuesday. I think the tariff rates will be increased futher up.
- Chinese netizens better sell all their stocks. US stock investors also needs to be careful.
commodity countries also better kiss & make up to US.
- US may lose one eyes, but China will lose both if this trade war heats up.
- EU may benefit if it kiss & make up with USA.


Everyone needs to be careful. Importers have been carefully importing past few months expecting these trade wars.

China better blink or else world ends as we know today. China better sign similar to plaza accord. There must be a reason Xi Jinping declared himself Pharoah for life (expecting turmoil ?). Hoping these things don't happen, hoping for the best


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...hreatens-china-200-billion-tariffs/773599002/

Trump administration threatens China with $200 billion in additional tariffs

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump fired another shot in an ongoing trade war with China on Tuesday, as his administration released a list of $200 billion in Chinese goods subject to 10% tariffs.

"This is an appropriate response under the authority of Section 301 to obtain the elimination of China’s harmful industrial policies," said U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, claiming that Chinese trade policies represent a national security threat to the United States.

China, which has denied U.S. accusations of unfair trade policies, has retaliated against previous tariffs with levies on U.S. goods, and can be expected to do so again.

The proposed tariff list that President Trump ordered last month ranges from Chinese air conditioners to leather goods.

The proposed tariffs do not go into effect immediately, but will undergo a two-month review process as officials from both countries negotiate settlements to their trade disputes.



https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/10/whi...t-of-goods-hit-by-200-billion-in-tariffs.html

Trump administration announces list of tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods
  • The Trump administration on Tuesday announced a list of tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods, making good on the president’s recent threats to escalate a broadening trade war with Beijing.
  • The tariffs will undergo a two month review process, with hearings on Aug. 20 through Aug. 23.

The Trump administration on Tuesday released a list of 10 percent tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods, making good on the president’s recent threats to escalate a broadening trade war with Beijing.

“The $200 billion figure we're looking at is roughly equal to their exports to us,” a senior administration official said.

The tariffs will not go into effect immediately, but will undergo a two month review process, with hearings on Aug. 20 through Aug. 23.



Some of products on the list facing tariffs are from Made in China 2025 sectors, the official said. Made in China 2025 is a strategic plan to make China a leader in key global industries, including technology.

When compiling the list of goods, the U.S. Trade Representative took into account what could cause disruptions to China's economy.

The official said the administration has been extremely clear to China in terms of its concerns about trade, but China has been unresponsive.

"For over a year, the Trump Administration has patiently urged China to stop its unfair practices, open its market, and engage in true market competition," U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer said in a statement.

"Rather than address our legitimate concerns, China has begun to retaliate against U.S. products," he added.

The list of new sanctions follows warnings by Trump that he may implement tariffs on at least $500 billion in Chinese goods should Beijing retaliate to the $34 billion in U.S. tariffs that kicked in Friday.

Despite the president's threats, China implemented retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. shortly after the $34 billion went into effect last week.

Trump has repeatedly threatened escalate the trade conflict with China. The dispute with Beijing has roiled financial markets worldwide, including stocks, currencies and the global trade of commodities from soybeans to coal.

U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer released the following statement regarding the new tariffs:

“On Friday, in response to unfair Chinese practices, the United States began imposing tariffs of 25 percent on approximately $34 billion worth of Chinese imports. These tariffs will eventually cover up to $50 billion in Chinese imports as legal processes conclude. The products targeted by the tariffs are those that benefit from China’s industrial policy and forced technology transfer practices.China has since retaliated against the United States by imposing tariffs on $34 billion in U.S. exports to China, and threatening tariffs on another $16 billion. It did this without any international legal basis or justification.As a result of China’s retaliation and failure to change its practices, the President has ordered USTR to begin the process of imposing tariffs of 10 percent on an additional $200 billion of Chinese imports. This is an appropriate response under the authority of Section 301 to obtain the elimination of China’s harmful industrial policies. USTR will proceed with a transparent and comprehensive public notice and comment process prior to the imposition of final tariffs, as we have for previous tariffs.On August 14, 2017, President Trump instructed USTR to begin the Section 301 process. For many years, China has pursued abusive trading practices with regard to intellectual property and innovation. USTR conducted a thorough investigation over an 8-month period, including public hearings and submissions. In a detailed 200-page report, USTR found that China has been engaging in industrial policy which has resulted in the transfer and theft of intellectual property and technology to the detriment of our economy and the future of our workers and businesses.USTR’s Section 301 report found that Chinese policies and practices force U.S. innovators to hand over their technology and know-how as the price of doing business in China. China also uses non-economic means to obtain U.S. technology, such as using state-owned funds and companies to buy up American businesses and imposing burdensome intellectual property licensing requirements in China. USTR’s report also found that the Chinese government sponsors the outright theft of U.S. technology for commercial benefit. These practices are an existential threat to America’s most critical comparative advantage and the future of our economy: our intellectual property and technology.For over a year, the Trump Administration has patiently urged China to stop its unfair practices, open its market, and engage in true market competition. We have been very clear and detailed regarding the specific changes China should undertake. Unfortunately, China has not changed its behavior – behavior that puts the future of the U.S. economy at risk. Rather than address our legitimate concerns, China has begun to retaliate against U.S. products. There is no justification for such action.As in the past, the United States is willing to engage in efforts that could lead to a resolution of our concerns about China’s unfair trade practices and to China opening its market to U.S. goods and services. In the meantime, we will remain vigilant in defending the ability of our workers and businesses to compete on a fair and reciprocal basis.”
 
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Trump half's the Trump card when it comes to china-USA trade war.

China is dependent on USA not the other way around me.

It actually puts more emphasis one the One Belt and CPEC initiatives .

America is not longer a dependable partner for anything.
 
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I used to work for Micron during the DRAM days. I helped set up the Micron Shanghai facility. It was my first taste of mainland China semicon industry. It was well known that theft of every type -- intellectual to physical -- should be expected and worse -- government sanctioned.

On the surface, we treated our Chinese partners with friendliness, deference, and collegiality, but underneath that facade, every high level management executives from both sides knew what WOULD happen and everyone factored that in as cost of working in China. The Americans worked hard to prevent theft, the Chinese worked hard to steal, and everyone winked and nodded at each other. We had ethics classes, motivational sessions, and one-on-one meetings to emphasize the need for honesty, transparency, and profitability. And everyone -- on both sides -- knew it was bullshit. Every large Chinese company have at least one party apparatchik on its board of management so it was no mystery as to who directed the thefts and why.

So this story is not 'the final straw'. It is just the latest that just happened to be public knowledge. For every one event that make the news, at least a dozen do not and everyone winked and nodded at each other and let it passed.
 
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I used to work for Micron during the DRAM days. I helped set up the Micron Shanghai facility. It was my first taste of mainland China semicon industry. It was well known that theft of every type -- intellectual to physical -- should be expected and worse -- government sanctioned.

On the surface, we treated our Chinese partners with friendliness, deference, and collegiality, but underneath that facade, every high level management executives from both sides knew what WOULD happen and everyone factored that in as cost of working in China. The Americans worked hard to prevent theft, the Chinese worked hard to steal, and everyone winked and nodded at each other. We had ethics classes, motivational sessions, and one-on-one meetings to emphasize the need for honesty, transparency, and profitability. And everyone -- on both sides -- knew it was bullshit. Every large Chinese company have at least one party apparatchik on its board of management so it was no mystery as to who directed the thefts and why.

So this story is not 'the final straw'. It is just the latest that just happened to be public knowledge. For every one event that make the news, at least a dozen do not and everyone winked and nodded at each other and let it passed.
i guess when the situation fits your need you were also a fighter pilot, a janitor, a physics expert, missile expert, greatest armchair general, a pimp, navy Seal, am i missing any other titles you claimed to have?
 
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I used to work for Micron during the DRAM days. I helped set up the Micron Shanghai facility. It was my first taste of mainland China semicon industry. It was well known that theft of every type -- intellectual to physical -- should be expected and worse -- government sanctioned.

On the surface, we treated our Chinese partners with friendliness, deference, and collegiality, but underneath that facade, every high level management executives from both sides knew what WOULD happen and everyone factored that in as cost of working in China. The Americans worked hard to prevent theft, the Chinese worked hard to steal, and everyone winked and nodded at each other. We had ethics classes, motivational sessions, and one-on-one meetings to emphasize the need for honesty, transparency, and profitability. And everyone -- on both sides -- knew it was bullshit. Every large Chinese company have at least one party apparatchik on its board of management so it was no mystery as to who directed the thefts and why.

So this story is not 'the final straw'. It is just the latest that just happened to be public knowledge. For every one event that make the news, at least a dozen do not and everyone winked and nodded at each other and let it passed.
Tell this ethics story to middle east where you are invading country by country and then signing weapon agreements, oil agreements and rebuild agreements ...

Furthermore, also tell this ethics story when you remove the gold backing of the dollar and then threaten the whole world with consequences and whoever tried to go against trading without US dollar you destroyed that nation ,,, eg. Iraq, Libya and Iran in future ...

Tell this ethics to your bankers who stole pensions and life long earnings ... and a reason of collapse of whole world ...

In short every country has its own tricks ... Chinese has its own and there is no doubt there is intellectual property right violation issues but US has its own methods of stealing ...
 
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If China does not retaliate, but negotiates, Chinese stocks will rebound. If they co-operate to reduce US trade deficits & other beuracratic hurdles, Chinese stocks are great buy. They are already undervalued.
Everyone should hope for the best.
 
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What will happen now china might have a loss but china will do same to you as welll USA is getting shortages of partners EU already thinking of leaving USA turkey left south asia lwft only india is a puppet abd israel is left most of usa long term neigbor partners are not happy to comply with usa


Usa will be isolated soon
 
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- Trump going all out war against China. additional $200B products face 10% tariffs after review.
- List released Tuesday. I think the tariff rates will be increased futher up.
- Chinese netizens better sell all their stocks. US stock investors also needs to be careful.
commodity countries also better kiss & make up to US.
- US may lose one eyes, but China will lose both if this trade war heats up.
- EU may benefit if it kiss & make up with USA.


Everyone needs to be careful. Importers have been carefully importing past few months expecting these trade wars.

China better blink or else world ends as we know today. China better sign similar to plaza accord. There must be a reason Xi Jinping declared himself Pharoah for life (expecting turmoil ?). Hoping these things don't happen, hoping for the best


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...hreatens-china-200-billion-tariffs/773599002/

Trump administration threatens China with $200 billion in additional tariffs

WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump fired another shot in an ongoing trade war with China on Tuesday, as his administration released a list of $200 billion in Chinese goods subject to 10% tariffs.

"This is an appropriate response under the authority of Section 301 to obtain the elimination of China’s harmful industrial policies," said U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, claiming that Chinese trade policies represent a national security threat to the United States.

China, which has denied U.S. accusations of unfair trade policies, has retaliated against previous tariffs with levies on U.S. goods, and can be expected to do so again.

The proposed tariff list that President Trump ordered last month ranges from Chinese air conditioners to leather goods.

The proposed tariffs do not go into effect immediately, but will undergo a two-month review process as officials from both countries negotiate settlements to their trade disputes.



https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/10/whi...t-of-goods-hit-by-200-billion-in-tariffs.html

Trump administration announces list of tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods
  • The Trump administration on Tuesday announced a list of tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods, making good on the president’s recent threats to escalate a broadening trade war with Beijing.
  • The tariffs will undergo a two month review process, with hearings on Aug. 20 through Aug. 23.

The Trump administration on Tuesday released a list of 10 percent tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods, making good on the president’s recent threats to escalate a broadening trade war with Beijing.

“The $200 billion figure we're looking at is roughly equal to their exports to us,” a senior administration official said.

The tariffs will not go into effect immediately, but will undergo a two month review process, with hearings on Aug. 20 through Aug. 23.



Some of products on the list facing tariffs are from Made in China 2025 sectors, the official said. Made in China 2025 is a strategic plan to make China a leader in key global industries, including technology.

When compiling the list of goods, the U.S. Trade Representative took into account what could cause disruptions to China's economy.

The official said the administration has been extremely clear to China in terms of its concerns about trade, but China has been unresponsive.

"For over a year, the Trump Administration has patiently urged China to stop its unfair practices, open its market, and engage in true market competition," U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer said in a statement.

"Rather than address our legitimate concerns, China has begun to retaliate against U.S. products," he added.

The list of new sanctions follows warnings by Trump that he may implement tariffs on at least $500 billion in Chinese goods should Beijing retaliate to the $34 billion in U.S. tariffs that kicked in Friday.

Despite the president's threats, China implemented retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. shortly after the $34 billion went into effect last week.

Trump has repeatedly threatened escalate the trade conflict with China. The dispute with Beijing has roiled financial markets worldwide, including stocks, currencies and the global trade of commodities from soybeans to coal.

U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer released the following statement regarding the new tariffs:

“On Friday, in response to unfair Chinese practices, the United States began imposing tariffs of 25 percent on approximately $34 billion worth of Chinese imports. These tariffs will eventually cover up to $50 billion in Chinese imports as legal processes conclude. The products targeted by the tariffs are those that benefit from China’s industrial policy and forced technology transfer practices.China has since retaliated against the United States by imposing tariffs on $34 billion in U.S. exports to China, and threatening tariffs on another $16 billion. It did this without any international legal basis or justification.As a result of China’s retaliation and failure to change its practices, the President has ordered USTR to begin the process of imposing tariffs of 10 percent on an additional $200 billion of Chinese imports. This is an appropriate response under the authority of Section 301 to obtain the elimination of China’s harmful industrial policies. USTR will proceed with a transparent and comprehensive public notice and comment process prior to the imposition of final tariffs, as we have for previous tariffs.On August 14, 2017, President Trump instructed USTR to begin the Section 301 process. For many years, China has pursued abusive trading practices with regard to intellectual property and innovation. USTR conducted a thorough investigation over an 8-month period, including public hearings and submissions. In a detailed 200-page report, USTR found that China has been engaging in industrial policy which has resulted in the transfer and theft of intellectual property and technology to the detriment of our economy and the future of our workers and businesses.USTR’s Section 301 report found that Chinese policies and practices force U.S. innovators to hand over their technology and know-how as the price of doing business in China. China also uses non-economic means to obtain U.S. technology, such as using state-owned funds and companies to buy up American businesses and imposing burdensome intellectual property licensing requirements in China. USTR’s report also found that the Chinese government sponsors the outright theft of U.S. technology for commercial benefit. These practices are an existential threat to America’s most critical comparative advantage and the future of our economy: our intellectual property and technology.For over a year, the Trump Administration has patiently urged China to stop its unfair practices, open its market, and engage in true market competition. We have been very clear and detailed regarding the specific changes China should undertake. Unfortunately, China has not changed its behavior – behavior that puts the future of the U.S. economy at risk. Rather than address our legitimate concerns, China has begun to retaliate against U.S. products. There is no justification for such action.As in the past, the United States is willing to engage in efforts that could lead to a resolution of our concerns about China’s unfair trade practices and to China opening its market to U.S. goods and services. In the meantime, we will remain vigilant in defending the ability of our workers and businesses to compete on a fair and reciprocal basis.”

US playing China base on his market she have, now question is what is her limits?. US economy itself can't afford costlier products from anywhere else whereas China have many options to replace US in china. US can't cross to WTO parameters (can't afford that)
 
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