US needs India for its 'stamina,India, Israel,us must join hands to fight "Islamic terror"- swamy

[SQ8]

I can understand why people would group certain militant groups with ISIS (even if I disagree), but how do Hamas or the FSA fall into that category? I wouldn't even call them Islamic terrorists as they don't directly attack civilians.

Ignorance

 

[Hamza913]

Ignorance

Are you calling me or yourself ignorant? Or did you just group them due to who you were replying to?

We have saved many nations from being destroyed but now we are seeing things more directly , how to clamp down those nations who are indulged in directly hurting Indian nation peace and harmony.

If you can name a single nation other than Bangladesh you have saved I will be quite impressed.

Tell me, how do Pakistanis drinking water or our civilians at the LOC hurt Indian "peace and harmony"?

 

[Hindustani78]

If you can name a single nation other than Bangladesh you have saved I will be quite impressed.

Tell me, how do Pakistanis drinking water or our civilians at the LOC hurt Indian "peace and harmony"?

Republic of India do raise issues related to many nations at International platforms but many nations have back stabbed Indians by the misuse of technology.

We all are aware about the Rohingyas and the real situation of them.

 

[Hamza913]

Republic of India do raise issues related to many nations at International platforms but many nations have back stabbed Indians by the misuse of technology.

We all are aware about the Rohingyas and the real situation of them.

Everyone raises issues, very few actually get up and do something about them.

Good. Now are you going to help them or what?

 

[Hindustani78]

Everyone raises issues, very few actually get up and do something about them.

Good. Now are you going to help them or what?

Indian Establishment is helping many nations since many decades but now other nations will get help only when they are on thier words.

Actions speak more than words.

 

[padamchen]

Nadeem Haider is an atheist. Suhasini Haider lives at her father's home, so there was no rebelling in the first place. Both father and daughter share very cordial relations FYI. The mountain of assumptions you bring in while pretending to be some sort of an impartial guy qualified enough to judge Swamy as a bigot is simply astounding.

Where did I call Mr. Swamy a bigot? I said he hates Islam and those who practice it. And as far as I can recall, hatred is not the sole qualification for bigotry. If that were so, most humans would qualify. I urge you to reconsider your position rather than jumping all over mine.

 

[TISSOT]

But Suhasini is hardly an extremist Hindu.

In fact it is my belief that she is a self hating Hindu who rebelled against her very staunchly Muslim hating Hindu dad by going and marrying a Muslim.

Why she married him under the Special Marriages Act (and sent her dad a postcard to that effect) and did not go the whole hog and convert to Islam does perplex me.

Do you have a theory on that?

And how did you come up with an absurd theory that she informed her father about her marriage by a "postcard " ?


This is what she says in her OWN words,

http://www.news18.com/blogs/india/suhasini-haidar/keeping-the-faith-4-11102-739245.html

"I wish to inform you that your daughter is registered to marry a Muslim" said the postcard addressed to my father, "If you are aware of it, please accept my congratulations. If you aren't please take necessary action." Other letters we received in the run-up to my wedding weren't as polite.

t's a well known fact that the moment an inter-religious (read Hindu-Muslim) couple registers an intention to marry under the special marriages act at the local court- and their names go up on the board, a series of organizations go into action. United in the belief that an inter-religious marriage is about much more than the couple involved, and a destruction of religion itself, they find ways of contacting and intimidating the bride and groom to be, their families, and anyone else they can find.



Dr. Swamy was in full knowledge of his daughters marriage to a muslim and the marriage happens with his full permission. They continue to share cordial relationship.


The only evidence of "hate" I find is in your post where you attempt to slander Dr. Swamy and back down when asked for proof, going as far as to invent proof of strange post cards.

 

[CBU-105]

LOL good definition..What if i told you every muslim is a potential JIHADDDI?

yeah right, because "jihad" is nothing is nothing but a great struggle to improve one's self or something ?

that definition is way past it's shelf life, nobody's buying that nonsense anymore.

I can understand why people would group certain militant groups with ISIS (even if I disagree), but how do Hamas or the FSA fall into that category? I wouldn't even call them Islamic terrorists as they don't directly attack civilians.

The above my fellow Pakistanis, is why I repeat often that being able to read and write english does not mean you arent a ignorant fool making hollow statements.

And nothing is worse for humanity than wilful ignorance, which is something isis, boko haram, lashkar taiba, fsa, abu sayyaf, al shahbab, hamas etc have in common with the post above.

at this stage, nuance, and getting caught in the weeds of it is a pointless distraction.

The world has had enough of these groups.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

you Pakistani pathans are ISI and ISIS wut ?

I cant make any sense of that.


Trump is going to be running things for the US now, he does not want Bashar out, hussain obama and the jihadi allied murrican left is out, and they're not coming back anytime soon.

what do you mean by:

"india as us ally will fight ISIS and bashar friends" ?

cant make any sense of that either...

If india enter into war in syria with US and israel then it will be without any doubt fighting their enemies. They both want bashar gone. they both target hezbullah regularly.
That is a conditional statement. "If india join hands with us and israel in syria"

 

[Dragon Ball]

Where did I call Mr. Swamy a bigot? I said he hates Islam and those who practice it. And as far as I can recall, hatred is not the sole qualification for bigotry. If that were so, most humans would qualify. I urge you to reconsider your position rather than jumping all over mine.

It is rather you who needs to look into your position. Why should you be perplexed that Suhasini did not convert to Islam to marry a Muslim? There have been any number of interfaith marriages in India including those involving Muslims, wherein the respective spouses have retained their original religions. Bollywood stars interfaith marriages for example have become an established norm by now. It seems to be a case where you are letting your own biases and prejudices color your view and project them on both Muslims, Dr. Swamy, and his daughter.

 

[padamchen]

It is rather you who needs to look into your position. Why should you be perplexed that Suhasini did not convert to Islam to marry a Muslim? There have been any number of interfaith marriages in India including those involving Muslims, wherein the respective spouses have retained their original religions. Bollywood stars interfaith marriages for example have become an established norm by now. It seems to be a case where you are letting your own biases and prejudices color your view and project them on both Muslims, Dr. Swamy, and his daughter.

How does any of that Bollywood stuff negate the fact that Mr. Swamy hates Islam and Muslims?

 

[Dragon Ball]

How does any of that Bollywood stuff negate the fact that Mr. Swamy hates Islam and Muslims?

Nothing about Swamy indicates that he hates Muslims or Islam. He may not think very highly of them, but that in itself does not translate into hating them. How did you assume that he hates Muslims? You have not yet answered the question as to why were you so preplexed at Suhasini not converting. Does it discomfort you that she did not convert and hence prove your own held prejudices about Muslims? Bollywood stars were just a glaring example of what is acceptable in this country. Interfaith marriages among non-Bollywood stars is also not so uncommon anymore.

 

[padamchen]

He may not think very highly of them, but that in itself does not translate into hating them. How did you assume that he hates Muslims?

Its very obvious to most people that he more that just "does not think very highly of them." How do you assume that he does not hate Muslims and what they stand for? One bright spark suggested that his daughter marrying one was proof of that. Oscar and I actually believe exactly the opposite. That it was his hate of Muslims that drove his daughter into the arms of one.

 

[TISSOT]

Its very obvious to most people that he more that just "does not think very highly of them." How do you assume that he does not hate Muslims and what they stand for? One bright spark suggested that his daughter marrying one was proof of that. Oscar and I actually believe exactly the opposite. That it was his hate of Muslims that drove his daughter into the arms of one.

Let the spark add to the fire.

ON what grounds have you claimed that it was Dr. Swamy's hate that drove his daughter into the arms of her muslim husband ?

It is more than likely that Dr. swamy himself a Iyengar brahmin, went outside the strong community norms to marry a Parsi girl and the parsi girl who herself risked ostracism from the parsi community to marry Dr. Swamy gave birth to a daughter that did not see any religion as a barrier in finding true love.

It speaks of the immense tolerance and respect Dr. Swamy's household had for people of different faith.


How many interfaith marriages exist in your familty or oscar's family for you to cast aspersion on Dr. Swamy's private life ?


I ask this personal question since rather than debate on logic, you have chosen to slander Dr. Swamy to make you point. So the same standards apply to you too.

 

[padamchen]

cast aspirations on Dr. Swamy's private life ?

Aspersions bright spark.

What connection does Mr. Swamy marrying a Parsi have with the obvious contempt he holds Islam and Muslims in?