US-India defence pact to impact Pakistan, China

[Basel]

US-India defence pact is not against Pakistan.

Yes it is, because on another similar thread Indians are dreaming of getting access to US bases or at least material support in Afghanistan against Pakistan.

You know what I m talking about because you also posted there your views.

String of pearls

Gone in one shot.

nope, it just going to be boosted now.

 

[mikkix]

Some of my country mates claiming that Pakistan Russia and China alliance is necessary but the question is how We Pakistanis can get out of US pressure. Our politicians, army men, bureaucrats, business men are taking dictations from US.
Anyway its time for China to do something to save itself lonely from its encircling by USA with its partners. After watching big game of US, Iran might be helpful for them with Russian supports,.

 

[RedHulk]

Su-35 are on the way after this ### on discounted rates ###

 

[mikkix]

Su-35 are on the way after this ### on discounted rates ###

Su 35 is no way better than Su 30mki upgraded one. Secondly can you buy 10 billion dollars yearly of arm from Russia VIA hard cash because Russia wants the same thing from Pakistan if India back out?

 

[Devil Soul]

There will be some bitterness but kinda sily just to assume pak-china-russian alliance... can pak afford major shift against US interest.. For Russia we have huge contracts which unlikely to be replaced by pak or even china..

where did i talked about Pak, Russia & China alliance???? and where did i said that Pak or China will be replacing india??? all what i talked about is Russia being irked with these development, i know most of you will not admit, but this is going to have a long lasting effects on geopolitical scenario of this part of the world....

 

[illusion8]

where did i talked about Pak, Russia & China alliance???? and where did i said that Pak or China will be replacing india??? all what i talked about is Russia being irked with these development, i know most of you will not admit, but this is going to have a long lasting effects on geopolitical scenario of this part of the world....

Although Russians are our traditional ally, we never questioned them for partially joining up with the Chinese, it was the Russian decision to make, and we respect that....similarly, The Russians will not question our strategic decisions nor object to it. I find it hilarious to see pakistanis salivating over it.

Pakistan, China or any country in the world cannot come between India and Russia.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Here are few take- aways from a novice and naïve on geopolitics:

• US point of view: check China’s becoming a two-ocean power, the rest are all details.
  
• Chinese point of view: imperative to becoming a two-ocean power, the rest are all details.
  
• India’s point of view: check China and cause as much harm to Pak as possible at any cost, the rest are all details.
  
• Pak point of view: Elhamdulillah!! Whatever happens under Mr. Modi is a HUGE plus, the rest are all details.
  
  
  

 

[idune]

WASHINGTON: The United States and India on Monday signed a defence agreement that will have a direct impact on both Pakistan and China.

Published in Dawn, August 30th, 2016

This is just puzzling that Pakistani media and establishment talking about China but missing or omitting threat Iran will face. Shouldn't threat to Iran be part of analysis and highlight? Keeping out such obvious facts, Pakistan will not able to secure it due place in geo political chess board.

 

[RedHulk]

Countries with Indian military bases and facilities

• Bhutan - Indian Military Training Team (IMTRAT)
• Madagascar - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Maldives - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Mauritius - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Seychelles - Assumption Island Naval Base
• Tajikistan - Farkhor Air Base

List of United States military bases

Countries with United States military bases and facilities

• Afghanistan - Camp Dwyer; Forward Operating Base Delhi; Forward Operating Base Geronimo; Firebase Fiddler's Green; PB Jaker
• Bahrain - Naval Support Activity Bahrain; Isa Air Base
• British Indian Ocean Territory - Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia
• Japan - United States Forces Japan
• Kuwait - Ali Al Salem Air Base; Camp Arifjan; Camp Buehring; Kuwait Naval Base
• Oman - RAFO Masirah; RAFO Thumrait
• Qatar - Al Udeid Air Base
• Saudi Arabia - 64th Air Expeditionary Group
• Singapore - Paya Lebar Air Base
• South Korea - United States Forces Korea
• United Arab Emirates - Al Dhafra Air Base; Port of Jebel Ali; Fujairah Naval Base

This the list of bases of both countries in the region. Lets see which of these can be used against China or Pakistan.
Right now only Madagascar, Afghanistan, Bhutan can be used cause arab countries won't let india use USA bases against Pakistan. HOPE SO

 

[The Eagle]

According to your own countrymen ,the elites in Pakistan have a lots of assets in west .And through the kind of influence that US possess ,they can twist the Pakistan any way they want .
If India decides to raise their bar further I think even China will begin to realise the situation and will begin to take care of themselves .

Well TBH, imaginations and dreams alongwith wishes are like wild guesses and mostly are beyond control. My opinion has nothing to do with anyone else thoughts but I can see a troll mode of you that you very immediately jumped and dragged others into this that have nothing to do what I stated. Our elite have offshore assets but twisting Pakistan, the time has gone and fortunately for us, next is India that did not learn from our past with US.

The fact of twisting Pakistan and India is not different though one has the heart to accept and don't know about latter but is mostly like dodges the reality. We already enjoyed the fruits of US alliance and Godspeed for India, I wish alongwith next president as Trump. Good luck.

Let India decide 1st without any Of, buts will, would, could may or might.

No need to play words game here I know few have habit to engage and quote for months without any idea of the picture but merely depending upon twisted words.

 

[waz]

Although Russians are our traditional ally, we never questioned them for partially joining up with the Chinese, it was the Russian decision to make, and we respect that....similarly, The Russians will not question our strategic decisions nor object to it. I find it hilarious to see pakistanis salivating over it.

Pakistan, China or any country in the world cannot come between India and Russia.

Dude the likes of your countrymen are saying the US/Pakistan relationship is over and we can take care of the Pakistan situation forever. Silly things are said by all.

View attachment 330198
Countries with Indian military bases and facilities

• Bhutan - Indian Military Training Team (IMTRAT)
• Madagascar - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Maldives - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Mauritius - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Seychelles - Assumption Island Naval Base
• Tajikistan - Farkhor Air Base

View attachment 330199
List of United States military bases

Countries with United States military bases and facilities

• Afghanistan - Camp Dwyer; Forward Operating Base Delhi; Forward Operating Base Geronimo; Firebase Fiddler's Green; PB Jaker
• Bahrain - Naval Support Activity Bahrain; Isa Air Base
• British Indian Ocean Territory - Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia
• Japan - United States Forces Japan
• Kuwait - Ali Al Salem Air Base; Camp Arifjan; Camp Buehring; Kuwait Naval Base
• Oman - RAFO Masirah; RAFO Thumrait
• Qatar - Al Udeid Air Base
• Saudi Arabia - 64th Air Expeditionary Group
• Singapore - Paya Lebar Air Base
• South Korea - United States Forces Korea
• United Arab Emirates - Al Dhafra Air Base; Port of Jebel Ali; Fujairah Naval Base

This the list of bases of both countries in the region. Lets see which of these can be used against China or Pakistan.
Right now only Madagascar, Afghanistan, Bhutan can be used cause arab countries won't let india use USA bases against Pakistan. HOPE SO

The US is going to allow Indian to use their bases to attack Pakistan! Where did you get this from?

 

[war&peace]

Except Pakistan is not selling their sovereignty to us, there are no Chinese military troops operating out of Pakistani bases.

They didn't sign a "LEMOA" with us.

However Pakistan, China and Russia should seriously act on this development and foster closer ties in the field of defence.

 

[cerberus]

Guy agreement contain Assets as well

No one is seeing what it actually its impact in military terms

 

[mikkix]

Dude the likes of your countrymen are saying the US/Pakistan relationship is over and we can take care of the Pakistan situation forever. Silly things are said by all.



The US is going to allow Indian to use their bases to attack Pakistan! Where did you get this from?

Sir technically India is allowed under such agreement to use US base anywhere if you read the agreement so we should be worry when India uses Afghanistan base under this agreement, we should not fool ourselves and be prepared for the worst and hope for best.

Secondly US not allowing us to subsidize F-16's and restricting us to buy planes from secondary source so anyone who has some brains must realize the fact that US can allow India in future to restrict Pakistan to move away from China by checking Pakistan from Afghanistan.

 

[wiseone2]

Here are few take- aways from a novice and naïve on geopolitics:

• US point of view: check China’s becoming a two-ocean power, the rest are all details.
  
• Chinese point of view: imperative to becoming a two-ocean power, the rest are all details.
  
• India’s point of view: check China and cause as much harm to Pak as possible at any cost, the rest are all details.
  
• Pak point of view: Elhamdulillah!! Whatever happens under Mr. Modi is a HUGE plus, the rest are all details.
  
  

having a port in Gwadar does not make China a two ocean power

View attachment 330198
Countries with Indian military bases and facilities

• Bhutan - Indian Military Training Team (IMTRAT)
• Madagascar - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Maldives - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Mauritius - Coastal Surveillance Radar (CSR) station
• Seychelles - Assumption Island Naval Base
• Tajikistan - Farkhor Air Base

View attachment 330199
List of United States military bases

Countries with United States military bases and facilities

• Afghanistan - Camp Dwyer; Forward Operating Base Delhi; Forward Operating Base Geronimo; Firebase Fiddler's Green; PB Jaker
• Bahrain - Naval Support Activity Bahrain; Isa Air Base
• British Indian Ocean Territory - Naval Support Facility Diego Garcia
• Japan - United States Forces Japan
• Kuwait - Ali Al Salem Air Base; Camp Arifjan; Camp Buehring; Kuwait Naval Base
• Oman - RAFO Masirah; RAFO Thumrait
• Qatar - Al Udeid Air Base
• Saudi Arabia - 64th Air Expeditionary Group
• Singapore - Paya Lebar Air Base
• South Korea - United States Forces Korea
• United Arab Emirates - Al Dhafra Air Base; Port of Jebel Ali; Fujairah Naval Base

This the list of bases of both countries in the region. Lets see which of these can be used against China or Pakistan.
Right now only Madagascar, Afghanistan, Bhutan can be used cause arab countries won't let india use USA bases against Pakistan. HOPE SO

people are reading too much into logistics agreement
i cannot imagine the jitters at mutual self defense treaty

There will be some bitterness but kinda sily just to assume pak-china-russian alliance... can pak afford major shift against US interest.. For Russia we have huge contracts which unlikely to be replaced by pak or even china..

i will be surprised if Pakistan pushes for an open split with america