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US government warns China to play fair in the chip market
Watch out China, the US has its eyes on every semiconductor you make
Agam Shah
IDG News Service
Nov 2, 2016 1:44 PM

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Penny Pritzker, U.S. secretary of commerce

A battle between the U.S. government and China is now brewing in the market for semiconductors, the foundation of electronics.

The U.S. alleges that China is rigging the semiconductor market in its favor by indulging in unfair trade practices.

"This unprecedented state-driven interference can distort the market and undermine the innovation ecosystem," Penny Pritzker, U.S. secretary of commerce, said during a Wednesday event organized by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.​

The Chinese government is using its own resources to artificially reduce chip prices, which is hurting global competition, the U.S. alleges. Pritzker called on China to play fair and in accordance with "global trading rules," with healthy competition and free and fair trade, not through state investments aimed at distorting global markets.​

China has rigged markets before, notably the steel, aluminum, and green technology, Pritzker said. China invested government resources to displace foreign companies in its market, which led to overcapacity in the global marketplace and artificially reduced prices. That cost jobs in U.S. and around the world.​

In 2014, China announced it would spend US $150 billion to expand the share of Chinese-made integrated circuits in its domestic market from 9 percent to 70 percent by 2025.

The U.S. is also seeing new attempts by China to acquire companies and technology based on the government's interest, not commercial objectives, Pritzker said.​

Semiconductors help drive the development of faster and advanced computers, robots, drones, and self-driving cars. Companies reinvest in research to develop faster, smaller, and cheaper chips and also in factories to make those chips.

A Chinese homegrown chip is being used in the world's fastest computer, and the country is also funding the development of low-cost semiconductors. The Chinese investment has hurt U.S. companies, which have had to cut prices to be competitive, the U.S. government says. U.S. companies have also had to cut investments in research and development.

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The U.S. in the past has blocked the exports of chips for Chinese supercomputers. The country has also security concerns about Chinese products.

U.S. government officials are alarmed at the number of roadblocks China has established for U.S. companies to compete there.

Partnerships are the way companies like Advanced Micro Devices, IBM, Hewlett-Packard Enterprise, Dell, and Intel can sell products in the Chinese market. Chinese government organizations now have access to all major chip architectures including x86, ARM, and Power through those partnerships.

"No government should require technology transfer, a joint venture, or localization as a quid pro quo for market access," Pritzker said.​

The White House earlier this week organized a public-private Semiconductor Working Group, which will provide policy recommendations and a roadmap for chip research and development. The group will provide its final recommendations before President Barack Obama leaves office in January.

Annual semiconductor sales globally total about $300 billion, and about 250,000 people are employed in the industry in the U.S. Semiconductors have a major effect on many other industries like manufacturing, electronics, automobiles, and IT.

To maintain leadership in semiconductors, the U.S. government needs strong trade policies, tax reform, and high-skilled immigration reform, and those issues may be addressed after the upcoming election, said John Neuffer, president and CEO of the Semiconductor Industry Association.

The government could also help push standards developed in the U.S. to other parts of the world, said David George, senior manager for wireless technologies at General Motors. That could reduce the cost of making products and help the U.S. be ahead on the innovation curve.

To meet the challenges from China, the U.S. should double down on research in universities, added Ted Dean, assistant secretary of commerce, industry, and analysis at the U.S. Department of Commerce.

During her speech, Pritzker said the U.S. government is an enabler for U.S. competitiveness and innovation in semiconductors, not a "driver" like the Chinese government.​


http://www.pcworld.com/article/3138...ns-china-to-play-fair-in-the-chip-market.html
 
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The pain is obvious in the choice of words.

They feel threatened, squeezed and cornered. Established interests from having monopolistic control over high-end, high-return industries are being challenged. Yet, the status quo won't be allowed to continue as it was.

The best the US can do is to altogether ban the export of semiconductors to China, which would be a blessing.

Who cares about US employment woes when China's sole responsibility is toward its own citizens?

US can double down on everything (perhaps, it really should), but, given the level of corruption, nepotism and mutual back-patting/protecting going on in the US politics, it is likely to leave a nice echo on the chambers of the Congress with no actual result.

There are two types of declining:

Huffing, puffing, and screaming like the US does these days.

Graceful, silent, and honorable like the UK did.
 
They sound so desperate....
I love their tone.

They need to work harder and consume less. Also, get the military out of East Asia. Then, chip problem would be solved.

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U.S. Net International Investment Position
Second Quarter 2016


The U.S. net international investment position at the end of the second quarter of 2016 was -$8,042.8 billion (preliminary), according to statistics released today by the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA). The net investment position at the end of the first quarter was -$7,582.0 billion (revised).


  • The net investment position decreased $460.8 billion or 6.1 percent in the second quarter, compared with a decrease of 4.1 percent in the first quarter, and an average quarterly decrease of 6.1 percent from the first quarter of 2011 through the fourth quarter of 2015.
  • The $460.8 billion decrease in the net position reflected a $479.9 billion decrease in the net position excluding financial derivatives that was partly offset by a $19.1 billion increase in the net position in financial derivatives.
 
CRY us a River to see if we care LOL:cry::usflag::blah:

China's government (including one on Taiwan) can't really help the US government with its trade woes.

But perhaps China can propose debt relief in return for Alaska. Why not? Once the Russian Empire sold the piece of land. It can be re-sold as it is of little value for the US.


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$7.2 million in 1867. Some $120 billion in current rates. China can double or triple the original cost.

I really want China to have territories in the Arctic.
 
China's government (including one on Taiwan) can't really help the US government with its trade woes.

But perhaps China can propose debt relief in return for Alaska. Why not? Once the Russian Empire sold the piece of land. It can be re-sold as it is of little value for the US.


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$7.2 million in 1867. Some $120 billion in current rates. China can double or triple the original cost.

I really want China to have territories in the Arctic.
Under 35% of the US debt is foreign owned. About 10% is owned by countries that have less than friendly relations with the US (e.g. China, some oilproducers like Iran, Venezuela, Ecuador etc. and a few more) . China owns 7.2% of the US debt. Japans owns 7%. Should the US ever consider selling territory to any one foreign state, who would you think it would sell to sooner?
 
Alaska of little value to the US?

Industrial outputs are crude petroleum, natural gas, coal, gold, precious metals, zinc and other mining, seafood processing, timber and wood products. Alaska has vast energy resources, although its oil reserves have been largely depleted. The oil and gas industry dominates the Alaskan economy, with more than 80% of the state's revenues derived from petroleum extraction. Alaska's main export product (excluding oil and natural gas) is seafood, primarily salmon, cod, Pollock and crab.

Loosing Alaska would mean loosing a HUGE portion of the USAs EEZ, including in the Arctic.

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China's government (including one on Taiwan) can't really help the US government with its trade woes.

But perhaps China can propose debt relief in return for Alaska. Why not? Once the Russian Empire sold the piece of land. It can be re-sold as it is of little value for the US.


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$7.2 million in 1867. Some $120 billion in current rates. China can double or triple the original cost.

I really want China to have territories in the Arctic.
good idea:-)
 
I cant support US on this one. The price of semi-conductors made by US are exorbitantly high. I mean its a experience. One semi conductor was discontinued and they unveiled a natural successor to it and that product had very little change to the original. Yet it costed more than 50 bucks than the original. Anyone inside the industry will know its sheer fleecing and huge amounts of profit they want. Greediness of US semi-conductor industries is beyond measure is a statement I want to express here.

For what reason ???? o_O

Alaska that time was a waste land. So the Russian empire had sold Alaska to US govt then.
 
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