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No dear brother, they are a lot more than 5% and people hate them because that is what they teach them against each other. If you are aware they throw their fatwas at each other like pan cakes and since their hunting dogs they raise look for jannat they go and take care of their enemies as per their brainwashing.

This is why muslim ummah is the way it is because they keep misleading our people turning them in to ignorant fools making them laughing stock for the rest of the world.

Islamic scholarship has been suppressed by them for centuries because they did not allow people to read and carry out their own researches and explorations on the quran and hadith and if anyone dared fatwas came flying from left, right and centre.

Please read about sir syed, iqbal, jinnah and parwez etc. Find out how many mullahs opposed creation of pakistan and why?

It is because sir syed commit the crime of telling people to read the quran rationally.

It is because iqbal told people to read the quran as a constitution of islam.

It is because iqbal, jinnah and parwez etc told people to take the quran as principle for slamic shariah laws on basis of shoora's agreement.

It is because all this makes mullahs redundant they rather not lose their this power over masses. Education helps people become free of mullahs' control therefore they oppose it tooth and nail.

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Mr Iqbal always followed Hadees Sir ask his son Sir and Parwaiz is the biggest Fitna of the century and sir you can't follow many orders of Quran without reading Hadees Sir
 
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Dear Zarvan, here is my explanation of things and hope it helps you understand what islam is a deen or a mazhab and what is relation of quran to islam and islam to quran.


Is The Quran a divine constitution for humnaity or a religious holy book?


1) I do not accept sectarian divide, to me islam is islam and that is it. You either accept it or reject it. People have natural right to opinions because according to the quran itself Allah has created them ignorant but capable of learning 16/78.

Because people are born ignorant and they themselves have to make effort to get information and learn and we grow from a child to adult and old so we are not capable of getting information all together at once nor have we necessities available and conflicts of interests come in the way ie some want others to learn and some do not so they stop people from learning.

So difference of opinion is due to such like reasons therefore it is wrong to label each other anything unless anyone does things deliberately wrong of which we are well aware and can prove it as well.

2) The main thing is brain its senses and its body mechanism that help it interact within its environment. Since all people are same in this respect other than some unfortunate people who for some or other reason do not have any of these available to them. All normal people are biologically similar. Psychologically our brains function the same way so no difference is there either.

3) Why then there are differences between people? a)because we are at different stages of our growth biologically so our capability is not equal in getting information. A child has less information as compared to a grown up in the same environment. Likewise educated has more information as compared to uneducated. More educated is more informed than less educated. More powerful and wealthy people have more opportunities than less well off and weak people. These like are reasons for having differences in our information collection.

4) Besides information collection we have to look at our quality of information that we have collected as to how useful it is and also how capable we have made ourselves about putting the available information together. Unless we develop our capabilities, we are not going to be much useful even to ourselves never mind others. In other words practice makes us perfect our skills and develop our potential. A seed needs constant care to grow in to a tree. Things can go wrong at any stage of one's life.


5) After explaining the very basics you would realise that it is not up to individual to do all for himself because humans are interdependent creatures. This interdependence some time helps us develop and some times hinders us from developing. So life is a constant struggle for existence at very basic level and at higher level it is capability of man to influence nature ie at one stage we are dependent on nature hence we are product of nature ie we are creation of our own environment and at another level we are capable of controlling our environment to a great degree so we modify nature therefore nature becomes our product.


All this should explain that we are totally dependent upon two things our ability to think things through and the available information of which we have to make some sense.

Without our biological machine called brain any information is useless and without information we are as good as brain dead.


Information is of two kinds. The one which we learn through our senses by interacting in our given environment is fundamental information which helps us develop capability of understanding things and concepts. The other is information that we are unable to discover for ourselves ie divine revelation. The purpose of divine revelation is to inform us about things about which we will never know if no one told us about. Since our birth we hear about religions and scriptures so we are attracted to such information if we are intellectually developed to see if it tells us where we come from and for what purpose. When we are children these like thoughts do not bother us but as we grow and begin to make sense of things we come across thoughts about our real origin that is why we become interested in stories of God and prophets etc. In other words we realise that there is more to life than meets our eyes. If we did not realise this then we have not yet developed in to a human but are at animal stage of existence yet.

If we are lucky ones who have realised that we need further information then it is not going to come to us instead we will have to make effort for it to get it and study it. Since there are all sorts of interested parties therefore it is a big struggle to get information and then another big struggle to learn to put it together so that we come to know for sure we have what we needed.

This calls for a standard for judging the information whether it is useful or not for our purpose and whether we have put it together properly or not.



So we have brain and the quran. To ensure we have understood the quran properly we must have a set criterion that works and cannot be refuted. The quran is said to be complete statement of our creator. The question is, how do we know it is really what it claims to be?

Anyone who can define this standard is scholar of the quran and should be agreed with and he who cannot is not the scholar of the quran and one must not agree with him/her.

When we talk about islam, the quran is foundation of islam and if we do not understand the quran properly then all our claims are in vain and useless or even false.

In islam ultimate imaam is only and only quran and nothing else, not even the prophet ie he too must follow this imaam to prove his own prophet-hood.

The question now arises, is the quran word of God? If we say it is then the next question is, how do we prove that it is? This calls for definition of what proof is. Unless one knows what proof is one cannot demand proof nor if proof is given one will understand it.

The very definition of proof and the way of proving becomes set as criterion or standard or yardstick for proper understanding of the quran. That is because unless we understand the quran properly we cannot prove the quran is divine revelation. The very understanding of the quran that proves it word of Allah is the proper understanding of the quran. An explanation that works is the right explanation of something, so the explanation that explains the quran is word of God is the proper tafseer or interpretation of the quran and all other explanations and tafaseer should be left alone.

All this should leave one in no doubt that there is set standard for understanding the quran and one must follow only and only that standard.

What is this standard?




To see whether a statement is true or not, we must understand the very foundation upon which the whole this process for scrutiny is based.

It is for this reason truth is defined into categories eg absolute truth and the relative truth.

Absolute truth is that truth which has no relevance to anything else eg the universe exists whether we were here or not. Something that exists, exists whether anyone is there to witness it or not. If God exists then he exists regardless he created anything or not and whether there is anything else there to to witness that there is God or not.


Relative truth is that truth which is relative to something else. The witness and the witnessed are relative to each other therefore they matter for each other. In some way existence of one thing is important for the other. This is why relative truth matters but not absolute truth.

Now to be sure whether a claimed relative truth is true or not or to what degree it is true we categorise evidence on basis of how heavy or important it is.

So relative truth is a)self evident or b) proven truth.

Self evident truth is obvious to us and so we do not need others to prove it to us eg one person will not fight with other over anything that in front of both of them equally. The universe exists and that is as obvious to one as to other or anyone else. This is why it is called self evident truth. it is not subjective but objective ie not just a thought in one's own mind but an external reality.


The proven truth is either based upon reliable witness statement as proof or based on mere circumstantial evidence ie based upon clues with their best possible explanation.

All other claims are mere possibilities ie they are as likely to be true as they are likely to be false. We cannot tell one way or the other.

This is the way we judge all evidences throughout the world in all courts of law and we have no other way of knowing the truth about anything.


The quran is not self evident truth nor a circumstance based truth but a witness testimony which is either true or false. But how do we know the witness is a true witness or a false witness?

If the quran is true testimony of God then it has to be free of contradictions within itself as well as it must not contradict the real world realities because they are self evident truths.

As explained self evident truth cannot be contradicted by proven truth and circumstantial evidence based truth cannot contradict proven truth that is based upon reliable testimony of a witness.

Most people have no idea of these like rules therefore they mix up everything and turn the whole thing in to a nonsense.

It is a bit like trying to do a complex mathematical sum that contains roots, brackets as well as all functions ie plus, minus, multiply and divide. Unless one knows which of them to tackle first as a rule one can carry on fighting with numbers trying to do anything first and anything last. The result is obvious to those who know how to do things.


This should leave no doubt in our minds that unless the quran is interpreted correctly first anything we say about quran does not stand. We can argue till cows come home and nothing will be concluded sensibly.

This is why it is not a good idea to argue over things about which one oneself does not know how to argue and cannot understand the point of view of the other party. This is why having good understanding of the common ground is very important from which the arguments should be started for good or satisfactory end result.

Evolution theory is neither self evident fact nor a witness based reliable testimony it only a circumstantial evidence based explanation therefore it should not be treated other than what it is ie least reliable proof.

When a fact is not a self evident fact then we look for a witness to see if we have anyone who has seen this happening but if a fact is not witnessed by anyone either then we have only our own explanations to rely upon and that is the best we can come up with.

Since the quran is said to be word of God, the question is, what are the rules for understanding the quran so that we could scrutinize it properly to see if it really is what it claims to be?

There is no sense in trying to criticise the quran without knowing anything about it but this is the way people are mostly doing things which is not unexpected because humanity still has a lot to learn before it is able to properly examine the quran for its truth.

Through out the world only lawyer represent people in courts of law because people themselves have no idea how to fight their cases, all because they lack what is needed to fight legal battles. Even lawyers ask other lawyer to represent them because two minds are better than one. Doctors look for second opinions regarding their diagnoses so people need to realise these points.

Everyone has the right to cross examine the alleged testimony of God but each and every person has a duty to ensure one is not biased or ignorant of rules that are necessary for examining the testimony. The basis has to be just and fair verdict that is sufficient for one's own satisfaction at least.


So what are the rules for understanding the quran properly?





The quran is the divine constitution for mankind to organise around. It is a program or a divine road map for humanity to work hard according to it to turn this world in to a blissful garden in which flow rivers full of things that people need. If they do not educate themselves and work hard according to divine program or if they turn the world in to hell of their own making and suffer then they only have themselves to blame.

When the prophet was around himself he knew what islam was all about and that is how he was able to bring about a revolution based upon the quranic revelation.

Today we know very little about the quran because we do not know arabic or that even if we know arabic we lack knowledge that helps us understand the quran. Since quran is divine constitution one has to think what a constitution is and what it is for. This means having sense of ideologies, societies, politics, economics, cultures, systems, structures and practices etc etc. Because each field of knowledge has its own terminology and requires specific skills for understanding and doing things.

Mullahs do not have the required knowledge so they simply pass on the memorised texts of the quran and the hadith and whatever explanations they have heard from their teachers generation after generation.

As we know soon after the prophet muslims became disorganised and gradually quranic concept became less and less known as kings and mullahs took over the umaah. Over a period of time islam from constitution for organisation of humanity became mazhabi pooja paat for so called muslims and all the related nonsense and so deen was changed in to mazhab=religion and malukiyat=imperialism. The kings ruled muslims in the name of country and mullahs in the name of religion. Both used and abused people as we see it today ie people are still a football between ruling elite and their funded mullahs. One using and abusing people in the name secularism and democracy and the other in the name nonsense dogmas, make bleifs and superstition etc.

In last couple of centuries if you are well aware of indian muslim history you will come across a name syed ahmed khan, a person who started alighar muslim university in india. It was he who challenged mullahs on basis of rationality or superstition. he managed to defeat mullahs comprehensively. Mullahs however responded with their fatwa nonsense but it did not affect his rational stand. More and more muslims got educated his way and mullahs despite opening a lot of different fronts against him still stood no chance.


No sooner he died that another giant scholar of islam stood tall Muhammad Iqbal. He once again challenged mullahs' interpretation of islam but this challenge was whether islam was a deen or a mazhab like any other mazhab. He could not be opposed because he was right and he was able to prove he was right so all mullahs could do was rain down on him their fatwas.

He then sought support for his ideas from Muhammad Ali Jinnah. They had a long discussion and finally jinnah accepted the position of iqbal. Unfortunately iqbal died leaving jinnah in hands of ghulam ahmed parwez and after death of jinnah parwez was the only scholar of islam who kept alive the real concept of islam despite opposition from mullahs.

Later on we see modoodi coming round to the same idea that islam is not mazhab but a deen and he was followed by likes of dr tahir al qadri, de israr, ghamdi etc etc.

Today there is hardly any muslim scholars who does not accept islam as a deen but war of words is still there because none has really defined deen other than iqbal who separated quran as a constitution of islam and shariah its law according to the quran but based on mutual consultation of the ummah. He rejected malukiyat based fiqh as islamic law. This is what current fight is all about.

This fight is between muqallids and ghair muqallids as well as between muqallids of different schools of fiqh. Once people understand the quran properly this fight will end because there is no sense in it.

However to realise that there really is no sense in it the quran must be understood by each and every individual. This is going to take time but it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later.




Intellectual criticism is invalid if it is not based upon some rules that cannot be refuted. The rules then become conventions like mathematical formulas.

For example it is irrefutable fact that brain needs to be there to benefit from information. The active agent is not information but brain.

Likewise when there are two opposing statement they both cannot be true. Either one is false or both are false.

Likewise books of grammar were brought into being much later on in time than languages and same is true about dictionaries. The text of the quran is more reliable and one has to make sense of it to decide everything from the quran including the rules of grammar and meanings of words to make dictionaries.

It is unlikely that we will have ancient arabic literature from before the time of the quran because even the quran is reported to have been written on various scrap materials. Therefore may be those writing were written actually long after the quran from which people are trying to understand the quran.

Moreover the quran being sent by Allah would contain Allah's point of view not of human point of view necessarily here and there so words used by Allah would contain the sense Allah wanted to convey rather than what people believed. For example why Allah used word jinn is different from what people believed what jinns are. So when we interpret the quran we will take it as a true word therefore it ought to be interpreted in a way that does not contradict rationality. That is because anything that contradicts rationality cannot be true even if it is attributed to God. That is so because it negates importance of brain and information concept and the relationship between the two. This is why we must look for consistency between the quran and rationality. Jinns therefore could be anything but not what makes no sense rationally or if the idea contradicts reality.

The powers people attribute to saints, prophets, iblis, jinns etc have implications such as if jinns exist in the sense of super natural beings that can fly through out universe and are in contact with humans then obvious result is that what we know today about our universe would have been discovered long ago because jinn and saints would have told us how the earth looks like from space because jinns could travel in space and saint could see the universe on the palm of their hands.

Or jinns are said to be very naughty. Now if you leave a naughty kid in a room full of things and go away and then later come back and see the room all will be turned upside down. The same like strange things will be seen by all of us if that was the case with jinns. People who claim to have jinns and magic powers could empty banks and get women they wanted at will. They would not be sitting in streets corners collecting pennies from us the public. Look at how much governments spend on spying on each other and on defence against each other all this would become useless and redundant. Superpower would mean nothing.

So to make sense of a statement, one has to know what the statement is talking about so that one could make proper sense of it otherwise mere words are words and nothing more.

This is how knowing these rules helps one to decide if one is following the rules right way round or wrong way round or not at all.

So using one's brain to judge things is very important for getting to the right sense of information.

This is why one has to see supporting arguments for whatever ideas one proposes. It is not matter of just knowing the language a bit. One cannot become a doctor till one knows the terms involved and what exactly they mean. This is why we are not politicians or bankers or professionals etc etc till we master the language involved and be able to demonstrate the related practical skills. However pioneers are different people they do things first then invent terms to explain them because what they discover is not known before them therefore exact words do not exist but explanations can lead to new terms or labels.


The research of parwez sb on language is much superior than research of ghamdi sb because ghamdi sb has mastery of grammar but not of language development and its evolution based on critical analysis regarding sense of words.

If one just read the quran and became educated then it would have been easy for each and every molvi sb to be master in everything but they are not. Instead the bread and butter language they know, according to that they interpreted the quran and so instead of bringing out the sense the quran wanted to convey they conveyed their own understanding of it at the level of their own knowledge this is how they ended up covering up the quran with their own senseless explanations.

It is like you are giving a grade two child the work of grade ten and expect that he will be able to make sense of it.

This is why I say mullahs should either learn things and improve their knowledge about thing the quran talks about so that they could understand them or just leave interpretation to those who know what they are doing. Unfortunately, if mullahs do not do it, no one else does it either or that mullahs do not let others do things their way. This is why this ummah has to make a move to put such wrongs right or we are going to stay the way we are ie remain stuck in nonsense of mullahs.


I think our main problem is not trying to understand the quran in sense of a constitution for bringing about a good human society that is at ease within itself and the world out there.

unless we understand the quran properly ourselves, we cannot convince others to come and join us. so long as we leave the quran to mullahs to teach it to us, they will keep us involved in their halwa fights. the while we keep fighting over none issues, we are not left with any time to do what we need to be doing.

by following mullahs nonsense we are creating more and more enemies in the world rather than human brotherhood. How it is that the prophet was able to use only and only the quran and create within 14years of his prophetic life a human community, a community of strangers loving each other the most and we have not been able to do so for last so many centuries?

We need to rediscover that islam if we want a good life for ourselves and the rest of humanity.

I think we need to pay special attention to a few points.

1, islam is rational and not a mumbo jumbo of mullahs, a point made by sir syed ahmed khan very clearly a couple of centuries back. Still mullahs have problem with it but could not undo it. A challenge for the whole of ummah.

2, islam is deenillah=Allah's consitution for mankind to live by not a mazhab created by kings and their mullahs. Another point made by another great scholar of muslim ummah dr sir muhamamd iqbal. Mullahs did not like it but again they could not fight it to prove iqbal wrong.

3, quran is constitution for the ummah and all laws of islam are to be formed within limits set by the quran but by mutual consultation of the scholars of the ummah who are well aware of realities of real world situations and circumstances. This is why all imperialist mullah made laws in the name of islam must be discarded because they are based upon deliberate misinterpretations of the quran and sunnah and so misrepresent islam. Again this point was made by iqbal very clearly and mullahs could not oppose it. This is what was taken up by muhammad ali jinnah and ghulam ahmed parwez.

By now scholars of ummah have accepted, islam is rational though people still get involved in all sorts of superstition and nonsense due to their ignorance and due to mullahs taking advantage of them.

By now scholars have also accepted that islam is a deen and not a mazhab though mullahs still show there ignorance here and there wherever they can.

The sole point of fight remains definition of what constitutes shariah of islam. Is it the imperialist mullahs' version of islamic law or quranic version of islam law that was around in time of the prophet and is rediscovered by sir syed ahmed khan and iqbal, jinnah and parwez like people.

This fight needs to be really understood so that we could once and for all defeat imperialist priestly version of islam and its shariah that was brought about to justify wrongs that muslims kings and priests did to each other and outsiders in the name of islam.


This raises yet bigger question that if the quran is really the constitution of islam then why the quran does not talk like a constitution for ummah=nation building like any constitution of even an organisation or company or country?

The answer is that the quran does talk about being a divine constitution but imperialist mullahs have diverted our attention away from that in order to replace the divine constitution of ummah by their own petty constitutions to divide ummah and rule by their own self made laws that are against the quran.

In the quranic sense all things belong to Allah alone because he is sole sovereign of this kingdom of universe. Therefore none has the right to rule the people even in the name of Allah. It is Allah's rule of law that stands as rule to live by for all, regardless a prophet or an ordinary person. No double standards.

The names of surah are very important to understand because they carry clues as to what they are about. Likewise meanings of words need to be expanded to help people see what the quran is really saying in its text when looked at it in its own context which mullahs destroyed by bringing in concept of shane nazool.

These diversions of mullahs are so obvious for anyone who knows how world works and how countries are run and they know how to read the quran. Because you cannot understand the quran till you realise what the message is supposed to be about. It is revelation for the revolution to bring about a better world and that is what prophet showed us by his example. We have taken sunnah in the wrong sense are fighting over nonsense things leaving aside the real message of the quran, which is islam=peace in the world on basis of some conditions or term.

The quran is a divine constitution for humanity telling them to aim for peace=islam. With set out objectives for mankind like freedom, justice, fairness, compassion, brotherhood, progress and prosperity because unless these objectives or condition or terms are accepted and fulfilled peace in the world is impossible.

This is what the quran is challenging humanity for ie you cannot produce anything like the quran ie you cannot produce a quran like constitution that can tell you way to peace and prosperity.

The quran contains ideologies for social, political and economic systems, structures and practices. We are not supposed to take this book as a mumbo jumbo of mullahs like mullahs of bani israel turned their divine books in to mumbo jumbo make beliefs.

We need to raise our level of thinking if we want to benefit from information that quran contains for our guidance towards creating a proper human society.





I think it should be clear for all who can think for themselves that the quran is essentially a divine constitution for mankind to live by or nothing at all. If one takes the quran as divine message then it should be clear that Allah created all and so he has the right to advise what the house rules should be so that his set up things work properly to the satisfaction of all involved.

All we can do is see if they rationally make sense and benefit humanity or not. Only if allegedly heavenly revealed rules damage and destroy humanity that we can object and discard them otherwise if we knowingly and deliberately pushed them aside then we are going to land in serious troubles and remain in there till we repent and reform. That is what happens when silly kids do not listen to advice of their good parents who know how to be good parents and end up in all sorts of troubles.

If quran is divine constitution for humanity then we have no choice but to accept that it has to be one law for all ie no double standards. If that is the case then there is no room for different laws within the same state. No different house rules for different people in the same household. It makes no sense whatsoever that each person should live by his own law. If we let this happen then we cannot have unity nor cooperation to do anything whatsoever.

This point is absolutely vital to understand because without it one will never know what islam is all about. Islam is all about uniting humanity under one God, one prophet, one constitution, one ummah.

The quran contains many verses on topic of unity and condemns disunity between mankind with so many verses.

This means in islam we can only and only have one law for all who claim to be muslims at least and at the same time we must struggle to make nonmuslim brethren to understand this so that we could live to help each other make this world a better place by being better human beings.

Now one law means no room for enforcement of different fiqhs at the same time because if we accepted them then we cannot have one law therefore one ummah. Having difference of opinions on law is fine but running parallel laws in the same state at the same time is not possible.

The general idea is that whenever ummah decides to unite and live by islam all ummah can do is invite all its learned people to give there opinions as to what the state law should be in light of the quran and the sunnah about all matters of concern and whatever majority decides, the ummah should follow for as long as law works for betterment of ummah if need arises the law should be changed as per situations and circumstances that face ummah or ummah finds itself in, to cope with.

Ummah must never let mullahs run away with their nonsense ideas of islamic laws that could strangle ummah in every way out of existence instead of making it progressive and prosperous and an example that other people admire and feel obliged to follow.

This was the main reason why paksitan was created ie to serve as an example of a successful islamic state for rest of humanity. Unfortunately as soon as pakistan came to being ruling elite and mullahs took over ummah and almost destroyed it. Mullahs damaged pakistan in the name of islam and rulers in the name of secularism. The most unfortunate things is we have not even realised yet how we have arrived at the brink of self destruction. It is as if we have been sleep walking in to nightmare after nightmare.

What I am explaining is not going to happen all of a sudden over night but if we really did try to understand things ourselves and tried passing on such information then hope is that over a period of time people will come round.

The main thing is not to follow ruling elite or their mullahs if we want to be in better health in future. This can only happen if we educate ourselves about quran. Ensuring that we interpret the quran as a divine constitution in light of real world realities and not as religious mumbo jumbo that makes no sense.

The main thing to remember is that the quran was sent to educate people out of ignorance and superstition to help people become rational human beings to be able to analyse their problems and find their solutions with help of the quran. Again the quran is full of verses drawing our attention to explanations of universal phenomena. The quran is all about demystifying things for people and not to turn things in to mysteries.







It is absolutely necessary that we come out of our sectarian caves and that is only possible through asking tough questions and looking for their equally worthy answer in the quran and the sunnah. Listening to nonsense of mullahs against each other is definitely not the answer.

There are plenty of videos on youtube etc wherein you will find mullahs of each sect condemning all mullahs of others. They tell people who come to them to not to go to their rival mullahs. We need to grow up and grow out of these things and not to listen to such peoples' such advice because the quran condemns people who listen to people who stop them from finding the truth for themselves.

There are plenty of fatwas by sunnies against shias and vice versa.

plenty of fatwas by some sunnies against other sunnies and likewise by some shias against other shias.

We should not be part of their silly game, instead we should concentrate on the quran and the sunnah.

The question is, what is message of the quran and have we understood it properly?

According to the quran what is the prophetic mission?

The quran is message of Allah for each and every human being and the message is bring about a human society that is at ease within itself ie that is at peace within itself. The goal of islam is peace. To get peace between people, we need to know what they are fighting over and then put forth solutions that remove those problems which are causes of fightings and wars.

I am trying to raise awareness in us that quran is that book which has solutions for all human problem, there is no doubt about it. Why there is no doubt about it? Because if we read the quran in its proper context then we see problems diagnosed and solutions offered.

The question is, how did prophet succeed in bringing about a society that he did using only and only the quran?

It is because he educated people working hard day and night.

What education did he give them?

Read just the titles of surahs 1-9 ie AL FAATIHA, AL BAQARAH, AALI IMRAAN, AL NISAA, AL MAAIDAH, AL ANAAM, AL ARAAF, AL ANFAAL and AL TAUBAH.

I want you to try understanding the meanings of these words and what they represent. These all words are linked together for a very good reason. What are those reasons?

1, AL FAATIHA=divine proclamation for mankind through a divine messenger. Concentrate on word proclamation. This is opening message in which Allah introduces himself to mankind ie he is kind and merciful not a tyrant. Shows what kind of God people have who created them and the rest of universe and provided for all the provisions they will ever need. By this right he has the right to recommend house rules but he recommends them for good of his creatures like a good parent advises his children.

He then wants people to promise him that they will take his advice seriously and live only by his set up and program to stay out of trouble and save themselves from terrible consequences. It is like you tell your kid don't put your hand in fire you will get burnt. If your child ignores your advice and does exactly what he was told not to do then he will suffer for it.

Allah makes it clear that whatever you need or want all is told about in the quran, so whenever you have any problem look for its solution in the quran. All our prayers are answered in the quran already. The quran is final revelation by Allah for ever. This is why, there is no more revelation from Allah and so no more prophets. It is because if there is no more need for revelations then why we need any more prophets?

Allah created people, gave them his advice and freed them to do as they please and face consequences. He then tells how did people before us live and what happened to them ie what actions they took and what were the consequences of their actions.


2) AL BAQARAH=divine solutions for human problems and human problems are matters related to war and peace between mankind. Word BAQARAH= the sacred cow ie separation between God and world affairs ie kings ruling in the name of country and priests ruling in the name of their make beliefs. Kings and priests do not allow questioning of their authority. It happens when people talk bull ie they have no real basis for what they do. This is why they do not want anyone question them about anything they do in the name of God or country.

This surah is all about divine set up and advice and how people went against it and what happened to them and how people came together and what they accomplished. It is about why people went to wars and why they came to peace.

3) AALI IMRAAN= people and society ie this surah is all about people as individuals and as a society. Bad society of bani israel after they went off track and good society that was accomplished by prophet Abraham and people who followed him.

4) AL NISAA= human societies and administrations, this surah tells people how societies are to be formed and set up for management of resources and people.

5) AL MAAIDAH=divine constitution, this surah is about what a constitution is so that people understand it and base their administration upon it for proper management of their community and its resources.

6) AL ANAAM=progress and prosperity, when individuals come together and form a society or community and create a constitution and base upon it their administration then they either progress and prosper or end up destroyed all depends upon what kind of constitution they have based their society upon. Quran is divine constitution so no chance of destruction if its followers base their community and administration upon it.

7) AL ARAAF= when a people work hard according to a set ultimate goal, aims and objectives with terms and conditions and guidelines ierights and responsibilities and rules and regulations etc in their constitution, they either go up high or go down in ditch of of hell of their own making. The quran guaranties that its proper followers will reach heights of excellence.

8) AL ANFAAL= a properly organised society based upon a proper constitution when it works hard it makes progress and prospers but that it must produce surplus to stay safe even if any rainy days arrive due to some human error or mistake. Humans are not free of human error and no society is 100% free of bad apples within or outside enemies. So a society needs to be strong enough to take some strong hits and survive.

9) AL TAUBAH= general amnesty, a strong society does not make war on its own people nor outsiders but gives them opportunities to repent from their destructive and harmful aims and actions and reform and become useful memebers of community.


Can one see what was the mission of the prophet according to the quran? This is the mission that was derailed by kings and their mullahs. This was the mission of hussain in karbala to show clearly for people who claimed to be muslims that islam observed by most people at the time was not real islam. Hussain was stopped from peaching this islam because it meant end of yazeediyat. When Moses preached this islam, chiefs of pharaoh became worried. When noah preached the chiefs and priests of his people became worried.

The prophet made people aware what God is and what humanity is and what are relationships between them ie between God and people and between people themselves, what peace is and why it is a necessity and how it can be achieved, what individuality is and why societies are needed, what management is supposed to be all about and why administrations are necessary, what constitution is and what purpose it ought to serve. How people make progress and prosper, what economic necessities are and how they should be guaranteed, what forgiveness is and why it is a necessity because you cannot build a society on revengefulness and stupidity.

He taught people how to make administrations accountable to people and people to administrations, how to terminate and install administrations safely. Can anyone see it in the quran you read? If not why not? It is because quran was masked with false interpretations making it book of war for looting and plundering and getting slave girls. So we need to wake up and not defend people who did all this in the name of God. Surahs 24,33,58,65 are very interesting when read in their own proper contexts. They are proof that the quran is divine constitution not a religious holy book.

MUJAHID KI AZAAN AUR WAALI BAAT MAMOOLI NAHIN HAI, MULLAH KI AZAAN KISI AUR MAQSAD KE LIYE HAI

Mullah followers pooja paat muslims cannot understand the true spirit of islam till they let go mullaiyat and start studying the quran as a divine constitution themselves. This is why the quran asks people to be thoughtful ie think think and think.

Do you my brethren not find it strange that you call quran the constitution of islam yet you or the mullahs cannot show anything from the quran that proves it is divine constitution?

It is because the king owned mullahs long time ago masked the terms used in the quran with their own make belief interpretations and that is how they misrepresented islam to public at large. Mass media is very effective even today to spread lies and so it was in times gone by ie kings and mullahs knew what they wanted so they set out and achieved it. Masses have been suffering ever since. Prophetic set up was brought down through conspiracies. Masses are easily misled and remain in that state till life gets really difficult for them to rise up.

So one need to know how revolutions come about. It is people who want something work for it trying to get support of people that matter and then things change in their direction. The prophetic mission is changing things for the betterment of humanity through waking up people and providing them with futuristic program based upon solid foundation of constitution.


So my advice to all of you is please take time and try to understand the quran yourselves. Don't be misled by mullahs in to thinking this person is rubbish and that person is rubbish. Ask mullahs hard questions so that you expose them for what they are.

We all need to have courage like sir syed, iqbal, jinnah and parwez to think and say what we think and be prepared to listen if anyone has better things to say than ourselves.

It is not a good thing to not to listen to others. Even mullahs are not wrong in everything they say. It is up to ourselves how well we prepare ourselves to see right from wrong. Look after your own interest don't leave it to others.
 
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Hmmm, so were saying this all along and now it comes out this way ...

USA has also been funding and encouraging the religion of the graves and green parrots of Jannah ....

I always wondered, where that Madni channel got money and support from, with all the "Meethay Meethay Madni Bhai" !

It is such a laugh really. Here people have invented a religion altogether, and call themselves Muslims too.

TILL THE DAY, PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN KEEP INDULGING IN GRAVE WORSHIP AND OTHER FORMS OF SHIRK, THEY WILL KEEP SUFFERING.
 
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Have we understood the quran properly?


The quran is collection of 114 Surahs. Each Surah has a name. The first Surah in the quran is called AL-FAATIHA. The question is, why is surah Al Faatiha called by this name?

SURAH AL FATIHA=The Divine Proclamation is called by this name because the quran is a message and this message is from someone to someone. It is necessary that sender of the message introduces himself and then tells us the purpose of the message. Surah AL-FAATIHA serves this purpose.

In olden times when a king wanted to make any public announcement or declaration, he used to send out his criers who would let public know what the king wants them to know.

Allah sent his messengers and told them what to announce to mankind in the name of Allah.

1)Proclaim in the name of Allah, the gracious, the merciful

2)that sovereignty belongs to Allah because He is the sustainer of the kingdoms of tyhe iuniverse.

3)the gracious, the merciful

4) The provider of the constitution for mankind to live by

The one with sole right to rule in the jurisdiction of the universe. The only one by whose laws all things are governed in the universe and the same is needed to be done by people ie they too must abide by rule, law and judgement of Allah.

If we look at the interpretation of the quran this way then we can see that Allah leaves us in no doubt as to who he is and what right he has to do as he pleases and why we must live by his guidance.

Please look up for meaning of word ILAAH=God=KHUDAA. It means ruler of the universe. Setting up any other ruler in the kingdom of Allah is therefore like creating other gods. Which is therefore called SHIRK, the unforgivable crime in sight of Allah against humanity because by not following the set laws, program or constitution people end up in terrible suffering. It is like parents tell children don't put your hand in fire it burns, but a child goes and does that and as a result suffers. Since creator set up things his way and he tells how he set them up, following his advice will be found helpful and going about experimenting without thinking the consequences will land one in trouble after trouble.


This is just first half of the very first surah of the quran.

Basically this is a double declaration ie an agreement between Allah and mankind.


We are supposed to confirm that we will not serve any other ruler and seek any help we need from Allah alone by way of his revealed constitution for guidance. So help us to the path that is firmly founded in reason and leads to peace and prosperity. The path that was walked upon by those before us who benefited with peace and prosperity by following the divine advice or program and they suffered not indignation because they strayed not from his constitution.

As is clear from the explanation that Allah is not some kind of monster to be feared but a father figure who advises mankind like his children as to how they should live in this world to remain safe from all sorts of consequential troubles. The quran is all about Allah's explanation for us as to why he created universe, how he created it and how it works and then an advice for mankind that we should learn all this and try our best to fit-in in the divine scheme of things. In short like a good father tells his children about his family business as to how he has set up things for their benefit so that they understand and fit in the business to benefit from it, Allah too is telling people to be sensible and get on with life in this world as told so that you have better life both inhere and in hereafter in the name of Allah.


Have we at all bothered to understand the quran properly?

As one can see from interpretation of surah al faatiha, the quran is not about make beliefs and ritualisms rather it is about establishing the divine rule of law in the divine kingdom for the good of mankind and that is so because if there is peace in the outside world then there can be peace in your country, in your city, in your house and in side yourself. In this surah Allah is advising people like a father figure, letting them know that this is how I have set up my business so if you understand it and then work in it then you will not suffer but if you ignore my advice then you will mess up things from the way I have set them up and then as a result you will suffer the consequences so it is better for you not to do things that will lead you to pain and suffering and destruction by your own hands.

The quran declares war on religion and secularism both but the question is why? It is because religion is all about theocracy ie accepting the rule by mullahs and secularism is all about accepting the rule by ruling elite to further their capitalism and free market idea at the expense of humanity. According to the quran both are root of all harm and destruction in the world and that is exactly what we are seeing even today and we can see the same thing from our history books. These are undeniable facts. This proves to us how right the quran was and how wrong are mankind who do not take the advice of God seriously. The quranic advice is to establish divine rule of law and all live by it as a single family caring and sharing. Allah has created this world for people to test themselves as to how much they can struggle and what can they establish for the good of each other. Those who work hard in this struggle for survival with intact dignity will shine brilliantly and those who are hell bent on destroying each other face doom and gloom in this life as well as in hereafter.

The purpose of divine revelations is to help mankind learn how and why to establish the divine kingdom here on the earth. It is all about Allah telling mankind how to live in this world so that people could have a great life because Allah created universe and set it up to work and explains all this in the quran very clearly so that we understand things and fit in. It is in a way like good parents giving a good advice to their kids and if kids are also good they make good use of this advice.

The point is that if there is no divine kingdom then nothing else can work because either you have stability or you have instability. So the world can be like a lawless jungle or a blissful garden, it all depends on whether we want law and order or lawlessness and destruction. When humanity is in chaos then nothing else can be established because instability does not allow it. You grow crops putting hard effort in it but when it is ready some one comes along and takes it away or destroys it. Or you are sitting in a car which keeps starting and stopping and changing speed the while you are trying to do something thing eg draw a picture. This instability will cause you problems ie it will not let you do thing as you would be able to if you were sitting in peace in a stable environment. It is for this reason proper quranic concept of islam puts emphasis on stability ie peace. If there is peace in the outside world then there could be peace in the country you live in and peace in the city you live in and peace in the house you live in.

Peace or war either come from outside inwards or goes from inside outwards. This means that people must keep their eyes open and not let anything or anyone disturb peace or instability as disturbances and wars will destroy whatever comes in their way. Even if we have instability already we must contain it and bring about the peaceful state. So committing ourselves to peace and working for it is absolutely vital if humanity is at all to survive and live a life worth living. The quran is full of verses that tell us do this. The quran therefore must be understood in this context and not in any other useless context that makes absolutely no sense.

The divine messengers do not come to teach us things which we learn from our own life experience but to give us heavenly set goals to achieve according to heavenly guidelines ie moral values that are otherwise impossible to have. Islam is not for doing so called spiritual things in the hope of hereafter which make no sense but it is about how people should learn to live in this world so that they could turn this world in to a blissful garden for themselves. Allah has provided people with everything they will ever need and he gave them his advice in form of information so that people could create a world of their own out of it using their brains and bodies. Allah set people goals eg to achieve freedom, justice, fairness, compassion, brotherhood, progress and prosperity for mankind as a whole in the name of God so that they are rewarded with even better life in hereafter. The guidelines are obvious eg don't kill each other, don't hurt each other, don't steal from each other etc etc. So if we do not read the quran to understand it purposefully then we are wasting our lives and efforts. So if we don't learn the quran properly and teach it to others properly then we cannot come together as one people so we cannot create a better society and so can remain in pain and suffering.

We knew how to survive even with out divine messengers and we are doing that even today but just like animals nothing more. What we lacked was sense of proper goals that lead to peace and guidelines that teach us how to achieve those goals ie how to live properly and prosper. All living things are surviving but we have been given special brains, freewill, the divine revelations and are told to make effort to the best of our abilities to establish divine goals according to given guidelines. This is definition of deen or if you like the bigger picture. Deen is not mazhab because mazhab separates man and god from the real world and real world issues. Islam is therefore deen not mazhab. So islamic struggle is all about establishing islam=peace and prosperity in the world and nonmuslim struggle is survival of the fittest to take advantage of others and that means establishing instability and war in the world. Deen is divine but mazhab on the other hand is an invented thing nothing at all to do with divine revelation. It was invented to derail people from deen. The questions we need to ask ourselves are;

1)Who invented mazhab? 2)Why? 3)when? 4)how?

Mazhab was invented by people who sought some benefit from it ie imperialists, whom deen stopped from creating castes and classes to set people against each other to take advantage of them ie divide by confusing them and then take over and rule them or use and abuse them. By getting deen out of their way they could divide their people into castes and classes and thereby they could justify their use and abuse for their own ends in the name of God. For this reason emperors created priestly classes and set them the task of brain washing masses of people so that people become like work horses or slave labour for them. Mazhabs were therefore deliberately set up as ritualisms so that people could be made fool of in the name of God. Religions=mazhabs are therefore controlling mechanisms which kings used to control their masses through priests and used them for their own purposes as hunters use their dogs to hunt for themselves. This is how kings and priests enjoyed using and abusing ordinary masses. This is well explained by socialist writers and some videos can be seen on that on youtube.

This also shows why kings built grand religious institutions and placed therein their own priests who furthered their own agendas rather than building educational institutions to educate their masses for their own good or building hospitals and other things for them to make their lives better. Mazhabs were a way invented to give people satisfaction without letting them have what was/is their birthright in material terms. DEEN V MAZHAB is an issue of such importance that needs a lot of explanation unless one is well familiar with various religions and secularism as well as various political, social, cultural and economic ideologies, systems, structures and practices.

Mazhab is therefore make belief and full of myths, mysteries, magical stories, legends, superstition etc etc. The quran has absolutely nothing to do with mazhab. It is a book about real things that really matter for humanity as a whole. Most of the works on quran were produced during imperial periods and were according to ruler's wishes. This is why most of tafaseer and fiqh books for example are full of mythical stories, useless rituals and rewards that have absolutely no benefit for the individual or wider human society.

Therefore taking deen v mazhab seriously is absolutely necessary. It is a second huge task on its own to learn the quran properly and then teach it to others properly beside earning one's livelihood. When does one get time to take a tasbeeh and sit in a corner to do thousands of repetitions for name of Allah that serve no sensible purpose. Reading the quran instead serves a vital purpose at least as explained. How? Because by learning the quran we are learning how to set up human society for its proper functioning. It is because we do not learn the learn that we live like animals ie disorganised, no sense of purpose or direction and no guidelines to follow.

We do not realise that we cannot please Allah by aimlessly mentioning his name instead we have been set a task to establish. If we leave the task aside and do other things in the hope of pleasing Allah then we are not thinking right at all. Islam is not about pleasing God but about serving humanity in the name of God. The best service we can do is take his message properly ourselves then deliver it as far and wide as we can properly. In short we are divine agents on behalf of our prophet to learn terms of unity and let them know to others so that they too come and join us and together we make a better world for all of us.

The quran has been translated wrong because each translator tried to keep to the old interpretations that were done during imperial times for their purposes. Thus they turned the quran in to a mythical, superstitious book. We have been brain washed to take the quran that way therefore we think that Allah will be angry if used our own brains. All this because people who derailed deen in to mazhab also ensured that they set up traps so that people are not able to recover original meanings of the quran without a big struggle. They did this because to recover the quranic message would mean end of their game plan and status as emperors and priests. Since the problem is with interpretations of the quran so we must decide whether islam is deen or mazhab for ourselves.

The other reason that forces us to decide whether islam is deen or mazhab is our own existence. What do I mean by that? I mean we are physical beings with physical needs. Our physical needs come before anything and everything because only if we exist anything matters if we do not exist nothing matters. To exist we must have clean air to breath, clean water to drink and good food to eat. It cannot be any other way. The question is, if these things are important then what does God say about it in the quran? Before we could realise what God says in the quran let us know some facts that we see for ourselves.

To come to existence and get our needs we depend on other people ie we are interlinked and interdependent. This means our all self interests depend on each other and the natural world out there. This mean we must sort out this between us first and foremost. So far there is no namaaz, no roza, no zakaat, no hajj at all. Why? Because if we do not live nothing matters and if we live then we can only do what we allow each other to do. If I don't let you live then you cannot do any of these things and like wise is the case for me if you start troubling me and not let me have peace to do what I want to do or need to do. Family feuds are always there and brothers kill brothers and children kill even their parents and parents kill children over these things so the whole world would be in chaos without peace=islam. This argument should leave one in doubt as to why the quran was revealed. We are told Arab history and animosities between tribes as to how they were always at war with each other but ended up a single brotherhood. We too need to find that magic in the quran and use it to get that unity and prosperity. The quran was revealed to show people how they should live in peace with each other so that then they could get on with solving other real life problems with help of each other. So this is what islam is all about first and foremost ie terms for peace between us so that we then let each other live in peace and get on with doing other things that need to be done.

This is why in surah al fatiha=proclamation or open declaration this context of the quran is made very clear ie Allah sends his messenger to proclaim in the name of Allah. Who is Allah? Al Rahman, Al Raheem. and that sovereignty belongs to Allah alone because he is the creator and the sustainer of the world, Al Rahmaan, Al Raheem. He is the one who provided the yardstick for the mankind to judge their decision and actions by. This is so obvious from the first 4 verses of the quran.

The next verse tells the prophet to tell people to make declaration that they will serve me alone and seek help only and only from my revelation by studying the real world for themselves. Seeking a path that is firmly founded there from. Like those who passed away and were blessed because they did exactly that. They did not do what they were stopped from and that is why they prospered and their stories told in the quran.

So anyone who accept the quran as will or plan of Allah for mankind is actually entering an agreement with Allah that he will do as told by Allah. It is like a father advising his children and then asking have you heard what I said and do you understand and agree to use this advice. So being muslims we are supposed to say yes, we hear you and will obey you. In fact if we read the quran at death prophet yaqoob asks his sons by whose rule will you govern your living? They all replied by rule of Allah.

If we look at surah 2, It is called AL BAQARAH, this word is from root BAA, QAAF and RAA. It means cow, sacred cow, cowardice, conflict, divide, dissension, separation, tearing apart etc. If we then look at mankind we see each and every person fighting with others. The same fight extends throughout whole mankind. The question is what are they fighting for? The only answer is over land and resources, means of production and distribution. This means that issue of live and let live is connected to livelihood. Whoever controls livelihood of anyone controls the person or animal. Your dog is loyal to you because you make him dependent on you for his living. We are loyal to our patents because they feed us. This means people are loyal to livelihood when that livelihood comes from another source we become loyal to that source. Whoever we assume feeds us we listen to that person because that person is our master our God. This is what shirk is all about ie accepting others as Gods instead of Allah.

This is why none is given the right to own land and resources, means of production and distribution because all these are birth right of each and every person decided by the creator himself. So anyone who thinks he is the owner of things then that person is declaring he is God instead of Allah so he has delcared war against God and humanity. It is for this reason such a person is declared a kafir eg firaon=pharaoh. It is because such people delcare war against God and humanity therefore islam is all about telling people their rightsful place in divine scheme of things. This is two nation theory ie islam v kufar. A person must accept that all belongs to God or that it does not. If it is accepted all belongs to God then one has to use it as told by God but if not then one will use it as one likes. This is what war between islam and kufar is all about and this is what Surah AL-BAQRAH is all about. It lays down terms for people to unite and prosper or remain divided and suffer by keep on fighting over things as to who can take control over things and hold others hostage. The question is, what does word baqarah mean and what exactly is Allah trying to tell us by giving this surah title with such a word? Worde cow=cowardice mindset or attitude or approach to issues. Word cow stand for holy cow=religion= make beliefs and useless dogmas. Word cow can also mean dealing with isues of unity and disunity between people or mankind.

So which of the so many meaning is correct for the title of this surah? If we read the surah it is talking about groups of people, land and resources, means of production and distribution right from the start after telling us that this is such a book in which there is no doubt. There are muslims, kafirs and munafiqeen. The reason for division is because some want peace so they work for peace in the land and others want wars so they work for wars and yet others conspire for their own goals and join either party that suits them ie change their alliance and loyalties. This leaves us in no doubt that surah al baqarah is a chapter on conflicts between people, their reasons for conflicts and the terms whereby these conflicts can be resolved if all parties were made to realise the benefits of having peace between them on equitable and dignified terms.

This should now make one think as to why people translated the quran wrongly and who could it be? Also was it mistranslated deliberately or by mistake? This has been done to the whole of the quran. It is because imperialists always wanted wars and people who claimed to be muslims some of them were actually not muslims in their hearts. They were always trying to gain power and once they did, they showed their true colours.

The question is, why people fight? Over land and resources, means of production and distribution. Each party tries to take this world of Allah under its control because whoever controls these things, controls humanity, because one becomes master of life and death of everyone else. This is why Allah does not give right to anyone to control his land and its resources because he created all and he created all this for all. Caring and sharing is therefore rule of law of Allah. Anyone who thinks that anyone else has the right to control the land and its resources, means of production and distribution is called a mushrik. It is because such a person would become like a god for the rest of the people to control them. This explains concept of two nation theory or us versus them. If one does not accept the quranic terms for peace between mankind then one has to put forth his own terms and they need to be at least equally good as the quranic term or they will be rejected. The quran challenges mankind that they cannot come up with peace terms as good as in the quran ever. Yet if people reject the quranic terms for peace then who is at fault? The quran or mankind? Muslims or kufaar? The quran is not a book of double standards it is all about one rule for all. No negative discrimination at all. The quranic discrimination is only and only for organisational purpose to give people identity for knowing each other for assigning rights and responsibilities.

According to the quran all people are equal before the law of Allah ie prophets and followers just to make it very clear. It is not right even for a prophet that Allah appoints him and then he tells people take me as your master or ruler. This is why islam is anti mullaism and anti imperialism. If even a prophet is not allowed to be the ruler then how can anyone else be allowed to become one? This is why these people who wanted to be rulers instead of Allah changed the interpretation of the book so that then the way could be open for them to use and abuse people at will. They spread ignorance instead of knowledge and that is why muslims despite having the quran in their hands were unable to create the divine kingdom the quran guides to. It was all result of unquestioned doctrination.

So once people start reading the quran in this context a lot of problems will disappear that are due to our make beliefs.

After explaining the fight between the people and conflict resolutions, the quran brings in stories of the past eg story of Adam, bani israel etc. Telling us what were their conflicts about and how were they solved.

Hopefully this also explains why the quran is the only solution and not any other ideology that is not based on principles of the quran. It is because the quran is the only book that talks about real world and its real situations and how one should deal with them. Not only that but it discusses them right at the beginninbg of the book. In other words the quran tackles first thing first. This is why we should not be looking for things in this book which have nothing to do with reality of life. It is for this reason we must concentrate on our problems and seek help from the quran as to how to solve them. This is what the quran is sent for. To make us self reliant. This is why the quran tells us Allah only helps those who help themselves. We are told Allah does not change a people unless they work for the change they want. Allah only shows us the way but walking along the way is left up to us.

So people who do not try to understand the quran in its proper context cannot benefit from it nor can they benefit anyone else. The quran is useless for people who do not learn what it is for and how they can make use of it.

If the whole house is on fire, hiding in the house in a corner is not going to be of much help. This is why we must ensure world out there is in right frame of mind that it does not burn itself out. We are all part of it so we better wake up and work towards saving it, that is islam. The message of the quran is irrefutable by anyone no matter a muslim or a nonmuslim. It is firmly fixed as no other thing.

I think it is of vital importance that we first put forth overall picture of what islam means to us personally as per our own understanding of the quran in light of whatever we know so far, because that is the very key to understanding bits and pieces and their place within the wider picture. In any map that is not laid out fully one has difficulty in trying to figure out where one is and where one wants to go and how or why. This is why in any map that is in pages eg global, national, local or any picture that is in pieces eg jig saw puzzle there is a key or picture with it because without having some sort of idea as to how to figure things out is not at all easy. This is why rules must be sort that keep us right as we go along. Just taking a meaning of a word randomly having no idea of what the overall concept is we can end up sticking wrong meanings to things.

The other problem is due to conflict of interest between opposing parties there is a lot of misinformation and disinformation about. It is because each side wants to influence others and therefore anyone can drag things one way or the other so we need to have some fixed yardstick whereby we could judge why something is right or wrong. This is why some history of islam is important to know because it tells us what people have been doing to the book and how or why.

If islam was a religion then imperial forces regardless muslim or nonmuslim would have nothing to worry because religion is between god and man nothing to do with real world. There were plenty of religions before islam and after islam and are till around even today. People go in mundirs, gurudawaras, synagogues, churches, temples, altars etc. They all believe that there is ultimately only one source of all origin. They go through various ritualisms which they assume god told them through his chosen people eg prophets, saints and sages or wise men and even god incarnates. In all this God is given a useless description and role by man and man has given a useless rule to himself. I am saying useless because it has no real benefit for mankind. A man sits in a jungle busy with his counter repeating name of his god or whatever one believes in. Likewise man prays to his god. Likewise people go through hardships thinking they are pleasing their god. May be stay hungry or stand on one leg or whatever pleases them. Likewise they may visit places to please their god. In all this there is no real benefit for others and hardly any for oneself. Likewise people may give a part of their earnings to help the poor but even that is useless because even if some give to some people, others take it away from them. It is like going to well to fetch water in a container that has hole in the bottom.

All this is useless for mankind unless first thing is done first ie the rule of law. Unless people live by a rule that makes life good for them there is nothing in life to live for or to establish regardless about next world or this world. It is because instability factor is not something that we can ignore. It will be fatal for our existence and establishing anything at all. This is why Islam is not a religion but a DIVINE rule of law for mankind ie a constitution. One has to ask oneself what is constitution? It is simply a document containing things for a people as an organised community. it tells them goals and guidelines, rules and regulations, rights and responsibilities etc between people working together as a community ie administration and ordinary membership. This is why one knows for a fact that an interpretation of the quran is correct or not and to the point or not because it either makes sense and it works at least on the paper or it does not. If it works then we can work towards establish it in reality.

Before we manufacture a product it must be ensured at conceptual level that it will work eg we do not have to put a computer program to work on a computer to show that it works but even at development stage we can see that it will work and if odd thing comes up later that can be sorted out. Likewise before anyone could be asked to accept islam we need to be able to show them at least on paper how islam is better than religious rule as well as secular rule. To do this we ourselves must sit and think it out ourselves and then explain it to each other and then to wider world. Once we are able to do that people will come running to it not because we will force them with guns but that they will be able to rationalize it if we succeeded in explaining it to them sensibly. This is how the world would become a better place wherein people will be free to do what they like within set divine limits ie values and guidelines.

Otherwise as things are going on in the name of religion and secularism, more and more people are getting more and more dispossessed and life is getting impossibly difficult and self destructive so man has no time for god. So many people convert from one religion to another, not because any religion is true but because the hope is that new community they join will give them worldly help that they need or that they are unhappy with religions and they are trying them one by one and ultimately people are turning to agnosticism and atheism.

It is for these like reason I thought I should contribute whatever I have learned in several decades of my life for the benefit of others. Some people may not like my ideas but I know they will come round because there is no any other way out of this trap that we are caught in.

This is why to me islam is a deen and not a dogmatic creed. DEEN=YARDSTICK for the world to live by if they wish to be free, just, fair, compassionate, friendly, progressive and prosperous therefore peaceful. Only deeni concept of islam can land us in good life in this world as well as in hereafter. Otherwise we are doomed to failures again and again till we ourselves come to same conclusion.
 
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Dear Zarvan, here is my explanation of things and hope it helps you understand what islam is a deen or a mazhab and what is relation of quran to islam and islam to quran.


Is The Quran a divine constitution for humnaity or a religious holy book?


1) I do not accept sectarian divide, to me islam is islam and that is it. You either accept it or reject it. People have natural right to opinions because according to the quran itself Allah has created them ignorant but capable of learning 16/78.

Because people are born ignorant and they themselves have to make effort to get information and learn and we grow from a child to adult and old so we are not capable of getting information all together at once nor have we necessities available and conflicts of interests come in the way ie some want others to learn and some do not so they stop people from learning.

So difference of opinion is due to such like reasons therefore it is wrong to label each other anything unless anyone does things deliberately wrong of which we are well aware and can prove it as well.

2) The main thing is brain its senses and its body mechanism that help it interact within its environment. Since all people are same in this respect other than some unfortunate people who for some or other reason do not have any of these available to them. All normal people are biologically similar. Psychologically our brains function the same way so no difference is there either.

3) Why then there are differences between people? a)because we are at different stages of our growth biologically so our capability is not equal in getting information. A child has less information as compared to a grown up in the same environment. Likewise educated has more information as compared to uneducated. More educated is more informed than less educated. More powerful and wealthy people have more opportunities than less well off and weak people. These like are reasons for having differences in our information collection.

4) Besides information collection we have to look at our quality of information that we have collected as to how useful it is and also how capable we have made ourselves about putting the available information together. Unless we develop our capabilities, we are not going to be much useful even to ourselves never mind others. In other words practice makes us perfect our skills and develop our potential. A seed needs constant care to grow in to a tree. Things can go wrong at any stage of one's life.


5) After explaining the very basics you would realise that it is not up to individual to do all for himself because humans are interdependent creatures. This interdependence some time helps us develop and some times hinders us from developing. So life is a constant struggle for existence at very basic level and at higher level it is capability of man to influence nature ie at one stage we are dependent on nature hence we are product of nature ie we are creation of our own environment and at another level we are capable of controlling our environment to a great degree so we modify nature therefore nature becomes our product.


All this should explain that we are totally dependent upon two things our ability to think things through and the available information of which we have to make some sense.

Without our biological machine called brain any information is useless and without information we are as good as brain dead.


Information is of two kinds. The one which we learn through our senses by interacting in our given environment is fundamental information which helps us develop capability of understanding things and concepts. The other is information that we are unable to discover for ourselves ie divine revelation. The purpose of divine revelation is to inform us about things about which we will never know if no one told us about. Since our birth we hear about religions and scriptures so we are attracted to such information if we are intellectually developed to see if it tells us where we come from and for what purpose. When we are children these like thoughts do not bother us but as we grow and begin to make sense of things we come across thoughts about our real origin that is why we become interested in stories of God and prophets etc. In other words we realise that there is more to life than meets our eyes. If we did not realise this then we have not yet developed in to a human but are at animal stage of existence yet.

If we are lucky ones who have realised that we need further information then it is not going to come to us instead we will have to make effort for it to get it and study it. Since there are all sorts of interested parties therefore it is a big struggle to get information and then another big struggle to learn to put it together so that we come to know for sure we have what we needed.

This calls for a standard for judging the information whether it is useful or not for our purpose and whether we have put it together properly or not.



So we have brain and the quran. To ensure we have understood the quran properly we must have a set criterion that works and cannot be refuted. The quran is said to be complete statement of our creator. The question is, how do we know it is really what it claims to be?

Anyone who can define this standard is scholar of the quran and should be agreed with and he who cannot is not the scholar of the quran and one must not agree with him/her.

When we talk about islam, the quran is foundation of islam and if we do not understand the quran properly then all our claims are in vain and useless or even false.

In islam ultimate imaam is only and only quran and nothing else, not even the prophet ie he too must follow this imaam to prove his own prophet-hood.

The question now arises, is the quran word of God? If we say it is then the next question is, how do we prove that it is? This calls for definition of what proof is. Unless one knows what proof is one cannot demand proof nor if proof is given one will understand it.

The very definition of proof and the way of proving becomes set as criterion or standard or yardstick for proper understanding of the quran. That is because unless we understand the quran properly we cannot prove the quran is divine revelation. The very understanding of the quran that proves it word of Allah is the proper understanding of the quran. An explanation that works is the right explanation of something, so the explanation that explains the quran is word of God is the proper tafseer or interpretation of the quran and all other explanations and tafaseer should be left alone.

All this should leave one in no doubt that there is set standard for understanding the quran and one must follow only and only that standard.

What is this standard?




To see whether a statement is true or not, we must understand the very foundation upon which the whole this process for scrutiny is based.

It is for this reason truth is defined into categories eg absolute truth and the relative truth.

Absolute truth is that truth which has no relevance to anything else eg the universe exists whether we were here or not. Something that exists, exists whether anyone is there to witness it or not. If God exists then he exists regardless he created anything or not and whether there is anything else there to to witness that there is God or not.


Relative truth is that truth which is relative to something else. The witness and the witnessed are relative to each other therefore they matter for each other. In some way existence of one thing is important for the other. This is why relative truth matters but not absolute truth.

Now to be sure whether a claimed relative truth is true or not or to what degree it is true we categorise evidence on basis of how heavy or important it is.

So relative truth is a)self evident or b) proven truth.

Self evident truth is obvious to us and so we do not need others to prove it to us eg one person will not fight with other over anything that in front of both of them equally. The universe exists and that is as obvious to one as to other or anyone else. This is why it is called self evident truth. it is not subjective but objective ie not just a thought in one's own mind but an external reality.


The proven truth is either based upon reliable witness statement as proof or based on mere circumstantial evidence ie based upon clues with their best possible explanation.

All other claims are mere possibilities ie they are as likely to be true as they are likely to be false. We cannot tell one way or the other.

This is the way we judge all evidences throughout the world in all courts of law and we have no other way of knowing the truth about anything.


The quran is not self evident truth nor a circumstance based truth but a witness testimony which is either true or false. But how do we know the witness is a true witness or a false witness?

If the quran is true testimony of God then it has to be free of contradictions within itself as well as it must not contradict the real world realities because they are self evident truths.

As explained self evident truth cannot be contradicted by proven truth and circumstantial evidence based truth cannot contradict proven truth that is based upon reliable testimony of a witness.

Most people have no idea of these like rules therefore they mix up everything and turn the whole thing in to a nonsense.

It is a bit like trying to do a complex mathematical sum that contains roots, brackets as well as all functions ie plus, minus, multiply and divide. Unless one knows which of them to tackle first as a rule one can carry on fighting with numbers trying to do anything first and anything last. The result is obvious to those who know how to do things.


This should leave no doubt in our minds that unless the quran is interpreted correctly first anything we say about quran does not stand. We can argue till cows come home and nothing will be concluded sensibly.

This is why it is not a good idea to argue over things about which one oneself does not know how to argue and cannot understand the point of view of the other party. This is why having good understanding of the common ground is very important from which the arguments should be started for good or satisfactory end result.

Evolution theory is neither self evident fact nor a witness based reliable testimony it only a circumstantial evidence based explanation therefore it should not be treated other than what it is ie least reliable proof.

When a fact is not a self evident fact then we look for a witness to see if we have anyone who has seen this happening but if a fact is not witnessed by anyone either then we have only our own explanations to rely upon and that is the best we can come up with.

Since the quran is said to be word of God, the question is, what are the rules for understanding the quran so that we could scrutinize it properly to see if it really is what it claims to be?

There is no sense in trying to criticise the quran without knowing anything about it but this is the way people are mostly doing things which is not unexpected because humanity still has a lot to learn before it is able to properly examine the quran for its truth.

Through out the world only lawyer represent people in courts of law because people themselves have no idea how to fight their cases, all because they lack what is needed to fight legal battles. Even lawyers ask other lawyer to represent them because two minds are better than one. Doctors look for second opinions regarding their diagnoses so people need to realise these points.

Everyone has the right to cross examine the alleged testimony of God but each and every person has a duty to ensure one is not biased or ignorant of rules that are necessary for examining the testimony. The basis has to be just and fair verdict that is sufficient for one's own satisfaction at least.


So what are the rules for understanding the quran properly?





The quran is the divine constitution for mankind to organise around. It is a program or a divine road map for humanity to work hard according to it to turn this world in to a blissful garden in which flow rivers full of things that people need. If they do not educate themselves and work hard according to divine program or if they turn the world in to hell of their own making and suffer then they only have themselves to blame.

When the prophet was around himself he knew what islam was all about and that is how he was able to bring about a revolution based upon the quranic revelation.

Today we know very little about the quran because we do not know arabic or that even if we know arabic we lack knowledge that helps us understand the quran. Since quran is divine constitution one has to think what a constitution is and what it is for. This means having sense of ideologies, societies, politics, economics, cultures, systems, structures and practices etc etc. Because each field of knowledge has its own terminology and requires specific skills for understanding and doing things.

Mullahs do not have the required knowledge so they simply pass on the memorised texts of the quran and the hadith and whatever explanations they have heard from their teachers generation after generation.

As we know soon after the prophet muslims became disorganised and gradually quranic concept became less and less known as kings and mullahs took over the umaah. Over a period of time islam from constitution for organisation of humanity became mazhabi pooja paat for so called muslims and all the related nonsense and so deen was changed in to mazhab=religion and malukiyat=imperialism. The kings ruled muslims in the name of country and mullahs in the name of religion. Both used and abused people as we see it today ie people are still a football between ruling elite and their funded mullahs. One using and abusing people in the name secularism and democracy and the other in the name nonsense dogmas, make bleifs and superstition etc.

In last couple of centuries if you are well aware of indian muslim history you will come across a name syed ahmed khan, a person who started alighar muslim university in india. It was he who challenged mullahs on basis of rationality or superstition. he managed to defeat mullahs comprehensively. Mullahs however responded with their fatwa nonsense but it did not affect his rational stand. More and more muslims got educated his way and mullahs despite opening a lot of different fronts against him still stood no chance.


No sooner he died that another giant scholar of islam stood tall Muhammad Iqbal. He once again challenged mullahs' interpretation of islam but this challenge was whether islam was a deen or a mazhab like any other mazhab. He could not be opposed because he was right and he was able to prove he was right so all mullahs could do was rain down on him their fatwas.

He then sought support for his ideas from Muhammad Ali Jinnah. They had a long discussion and finally jinnah accepted the position of iqbal. Unfortunately iqbal died leaving jinnah in hands of ghulam ahmed parwez and after death of jinnah parwez was the only scholar of islam who kept alive the real concept of islam despite opposition from mullahs.

Later on we see modoodi coming round to the same idea that islam is not mazhab but a deen and he was followed by likes of dr tahir al qadri, de israr, ghamdi etc etc.

Today there is hardly any muslim scholars who does not accept islam as a deen but war of words is still there because none has really defined deen other than iqbal who separated quran as a constitution of islam and shariah its law according to the quran but based on mutual consultation of the ummah. He rejected malukiyat based fiqh as islamic law. This is what current fight is all about.

This fight is between muqallids and ghair muqallids as well as between muqallids of different schools of fiqh. Once people understand the quran properly this fight will end because there is no sense in it.

However to realise that there really is no sense in it the quran must be understood by each and every individual. This is going to take time but it will happen hopefully sooner rather than later.




Intellectual criticism is invalid if it is not based upon some rules that cannot be refuted. The rules then become conventions like mathematical formulas.

For example it is irrefutable fact that brain needs to be there to benefit from information. The active agent is not information but brain.

Likewise when there are two opposing statement they both cannot be true. Either one is false or both are false.

Likewise books of grammar were brought into being much later on in time than languages and same is true about dictionaries. The text of the quran is more reliable and one has to make sense of it to decide everything from the quran including the rules of grammar and meanings of words to make dictionaries.

It is unlikely that we will have ancient arabic literature from before the time of the quran because even the quran is reported to have been written on various scrap materials. Therefore may be those writing were written actually long after the quran from which people are trying to understand the quran.

Moreover the quran being sent by Allah would contain Allah's point of view not of human point of view necessarily here and there so words used by Allah would contain the sense Allah wanted to convey rather than what people believed. For example why Allah used word jinn is different from what people believed what jinns are. So when we interpret the quran we will take it as a true word therefore it ought to be interpreted in a way that does not contradict rationality. That is because anything that contradicts rationality cannot be true even if it is attributed to God. That is so because it negates importance of brain and information concept and the relationship between the two. This is why we must look for consistency between the quran and rationality. Jinns therefore could be anything but not what makes no sense rationally or if the idea contradicts reality.

The powers people attribute to saints, prophets, iblis, jinns etc have implications such as if jinns exist in the sense of super natural beings that can fly through out universe and are in contact with humans then obvious result is that what we know today about our universe would have been discovered long ago because jinn and saints would have told us how the earth looks like from space because jinns could travel in space and saint could see the universe on the palm of their hands.

Or jinns are said to be very naughty. Now if you leave a naughty kid in a room full of things and go away and then later come back and see the room all will be turned upside down. The same like strange things will be seen by all of us if that was the case with jinns. People who claim to have jinns and magic powers could empty banks and get women they wanted at will. They would not be sitting in streets corners collecting pennies from us the public. Look at how much governments spend on spying on each other and on defence against each other all this would become useless and redundant. Superpower would mean nothing.

So to make sense of a statement, one has to know what the statement is talking about so that one could make proper sense of it otherwise mere words are words and nothing more.

This is how knowing these rules helps one to decide if one is following the rules right way round or wrong way round or not at all.

So using one's brain to judge things is very important for getting to the right sense of information.

This is why one has to see supporting arguments for whatever ideas one proposes. It is not matter of just knowing the language a bit. One cannot become a doctor till one knows the terms involved and what exactly they mean. This is why we are not politicians or bankers or professionals etc etc till we master the language involved and be able to demonstrate the related practical skills. However pioneers are different people they do things first then invent terms to explain them because what they discover is not known before them therefore exact words do not exist but explanations can lead to new terms or labels.


The research of parwez sb on language is much superior than research of ghamdi sb because ghamdi sb has mastery of grammar but not of language development and its evolution based on critical analysis regarding sense of words.

If one just read the quran and became educated then it would have been easy for each and every molvi sb to be master in everything but they are not. Instead the bread and butter language they know, according to that they interpreted the quran and so instead of bringing out the sense the quran wanted to convey they conveyed their own understanding of it at the level of their own knowledge this is how they ended up covering up the quran with their own senseless explanations.

It is like you are giving a grade two child the work of grade ten and expect that he will be able to make sense of it.

This is why I say mullahs should either learn things and improve their knowledge about thing the quran talks about so that they could understand them or just leave interpretation to those who know what they are doing. Unfortunately, if mullahs do not do it, no one else does it either or that mullahs do not let others do things their way. This is why this ummah has to make a move to put such wrongs right or we are going to stay the way we are ie remain stuck in nonsense of mullahs.


I think our main problem is not trying to understand the quran in sense of a constitution for bringing about a good human society that is at ease within itself and the world out there.

unless we understand the quran properly ourselves, we cannot convince others to come and join us. so long as we leave the quran to mullahs to teach it to us, they will keep us involved in their halwa fights. the while we keep fighting over none issues, we are not left with any time to do what we need to be doing.

by following mullahs nonsense we are creating more and more enemies in the world rather than human brotherhood. How it is that the prophet was able to use only and only the quran and create within 14years of his prophetic life a human community, a community of strangers loving each other the most and we have not been able to do so for last so many centuries?

We need to rediscover that islam if we want a good life for ourselves and the rest of humanity.

I think we need to pay special attention to a few points.

1, islam is rational and not a mumbo jumbo of mullahs, a point made by sir syed ahmed khan very clearly a couple of centuries back. Still mullahs have problem with it but could not undo it. A challenge for the whole of ummah.

2, islam is deenillah=Allah's consitution for mankind to live by not a mazhab created by kings and their mullahs. Another point made by another great scholar of muslim ummah dr sir muhamamd iqbal. Mullahs did not like it but again they could not fight it to prove iqbal wrong.

3, quran is constitution for the ummah and all laws of islam are to be formed within limits set by the quran but by mutual consultation of the scholars of the ummah who are well aware of realities of real world situations and circumstances. This is why all imperialist mullah made laws in the name of islam must be discarded because they are based upon deliberate misinterpretations of the quran and sunnah and so misrepresent islam. Again this point was made by iqbal very clearly and mullahs could not oppose it. This is what was taken up by muhammad ali jinnah and ghulam ahmed parwez.

By now scholars of ummah have accepted, islam is rational though people still get involved in all sorts of superstition and nonsense due to their ignorance and due to mullahs taking advantage of them.

By now scholars have also accepted that islam is a deen and not a mazhab though mullahs still show there ignorance here and there wherever they can.

The sole point of fight remains definition of what constitutes shariah of islam. Is it the imperialist mullahs' version of islamic law or quranic version of islam law that was around in time of the prophet and is rediscovered by sir syed ahmed khan and iqbal, jinnah and parwez like people.

This fight needs to be really understood so that we could once and for all defeat imperialist priestly version of islam and its shariah that was brought about to justify wrongs that muslims kings and priests did to each other and outsiders in the name of islam.


This raises yet bigger question that if the quran is really the constitution of islam then why the quran does not talk like a constitution for ummah=nation building like any constitution of even an organisation or company or country?

The answer is that the quran does talk about being a divine constitution but imperialist mullahs have diverted our attention away from that in order to replace the divine constitution of ummah by their own petty constitutions to divide ummah and rule by their own self made laws that are against the quran.

In the quranic sense all things belong to Allah alone because he is sole sovereign of this kingdom of universe. Therefore none has the right to rule the people even in the name of Allah. It is Allah's rule of law that stands as rule to live by for all, regardless a prophet or an ordinary person. No double standards.

The names of surah are very important to understand because they carry clues as to what they are about. Likewise meanings of words need to be expanded to help people see what the quran is really saying in its text when looked at it in its own context which mullahs destroyed by bringing in concept of shane nazool.

These diversions of mullahs are so obvious for anyone who knows how world works and how countries are run and they know how to read the quran. Because you cannot understand the quran till you realise what the message is supposed to be about. It is revelation for the revolution to bring about a better world and that is what prophet showed us by his example. We have taken sunnah in the wrong sense are fighting over nonsense things leaving aside the real message of the quran, which is islam=peace in the world on basis of some conditions or term.

The quran is a divine constitution for humanity telling them to aim for peace=islam. With set out objectives for mankind like freedom, justice, fairness, compassion, brotherhood, progress and prosperity because unless these objectives or condition or terms are accepted and fulfilled peace in the world is impossible.

This is what the quran is challenging humanity for ie you cannot produce anything like the quran ie you cannot produce a quran like constitution that can tell you way to peace and prosperity.

The quran contains ideologies for social, political and economic systems, structures and practices. We are not supposed to take this book as a mumbo jumbo of mullahs like mullahs of bani israel turned their divine books in to mumbo jumbo make beliefs.

We need to raise our level of thinking if we want to benefit from information that quran contains for our guidance towards creating a proper human society.





I think it should be clear for all who can think for themselves that the quran is essentially a divine constitution for mankind to live by or nothing at all. If one takes the quran as divine message then it should be clear that Allah created all and so he has the right to advise what the house rules should be so that his set up things work properly to the satisfaction of all involved.

All we can do is see if they rationally make sense and benefit humanity or not. Only if allegedly heavenly revealed rules damage and destroy humanity that we can object and discard them otherwise if we knowingly and deliberately pushed them aside then we are going to land in serious troubles and remain in there till we repent and reform. That is what happens when silly kids do not listen to advice of their good parents who know how to be good parents and end up in all sorts of troubles.

If quran is divine constitution for humanity then we have no choice but to accept that it has to be one law for all ie no double standards. If that is the case then there is no room for different laws within the same state. No different house rules for different people in the same household. It makes no sense whatsoever that each person should live by his own law. If we let this happen then we cannot have unity nor cooperation to do anything whatsoever.

This point is absolutely vital to understand because without it one will never know what islam is all about. Islam is all about uniting humanity under one God, one prophet, one constitution, one ummah.

The quran contains many verses on topic of unity and condemns disunity between mankind with so many verses.

This means in islam we can only and only have one law for all who claim to be muslims at least and at the same time we must struggle to make nonmuslim brethren to understand this so that we could live to help each other make this world a better place by being better human beings.

Now one law means no room for enforcement of different fiqhs at the same time because if we accepted them then we cannot have one law therefore one ummah. Having difference of opinions on law is fine but running parallel laws in the same state at the same time is not possible.

The general idea is that whenever ummah decides to unite and live by islam all ummah can do is invite all its learned people to give there opinions as to what the state law should be in light of the quran and the sunnah about all matters of concern and whatever majority decides, the ummah should follow for as long as law works for betterment of ummah if need arises the law should be changed as per situations and circumstances that face ummah or ummah finds itself in, to cope with.

Ummah must never let mullahs run away with their nonsense ideas of islamic laws that could strangle ummah in every way out of existence instead of making it progressive and prosperous and an example that other people admire and feel obliged to follow.

This was the main reason why paksitan was created ie to serve as an example of a successful islamic state for rest of humanity. Unfortunately as soon as pakistan came to being ruling elite and mullahs took over ummah and almost destroyed it. Mullahs damaged pakistan in the name of islam and rulers in the name of secularism. The most unfortunate things is we have not even realised yet how we have arrived at the brink of self destruction. It is as if we have been sleep walking in to nightmare after nightmare.

What I am explaining is not going to happen all of a sudden over night but if we really did try to understand things ourselves and tried passing on such information then hope is that over a period of time people will come round.

The main thing is not to follow ruling elite or their mullahs if we want to be in better health in future. This can only happen if we educate ourselves about quran. Ensuring that we interpret the quran as a divine constitution in light of real world realities and not as religious mumbo jumbo that makes no sense.

The main thing to remember is that the quran was sent to educate people out of ignorance and superstition to help people become rational human beings to be able to analyse their problems and find their solutions with help of the quran. Again the quran is full of verses drawing our attention to explanations of universal phenomena. The quran is all about demystifying things for people and not to turn things in to mysteries.







It is absolutely necessary that we come out of our sectarian caves and that is only possible through asking tough questions and looking for their equally worthy answer in the quran and the sunnah. Listening to nonsense of mullahs against each other is definitely not the answer.

There are plenty of videos on youtube etc wherein you will find mullahs of each sect condemning all mullahs of others. They tell people who come to them to not to go to their rival mullahs. We need to grow up and grow out of these things and not to listen to such peoples' such advice because the quran condemns people who listen to people who stop them from finding the truth for themselves.

There are plenty of fatwas by sunnies against shias and vice versa.

plenty of fatwas by some sunnies against other sunnies and likewise by some shias against other shias.

We should not be part of their silly game, instead we should concentrate on the quran and the sunnah.

The question is, what is message of the quran and have we understood it properly?

According to the quran what is the prophetic mission?

The quran is message of Allah for each and every human being and the message is bring about a human society that is at ease within itself ie that is at peace within itself. The goal of islam is peace. To get peace between people, we need to know what they are fighting over and then put forth solutions that remove those problems which are causes of fightings and wars.

I am trying to raise awareness in us that quran is that book which has solutions for all human problem, there is no doubt about it. Why there is no doubt about it? Because if we read the quran in its proper context then we see problems diagnosed and solutions offered.

The question is, how did prophet succeed in bringing about a society that he did using only and only the quran?

It is because he educated people working hard day and night.

What education did he give them?

Read just the titles of surahs 1-9 ie AL FAATIHA, AL BAQARAH, AALI IMRAAN, AL NISAA, AL MAAIDAH, AL ANAAM, AL ARAAF, AL ANFAAL and AL TAUBAH.

I want you to try understanding the meanings of these words and what they represent. These all words are linked together for a very good reason. What are those reasons?

1, AL FAATIHA=divine proclamation for mankind through a divine messenger. Concentrate on word proclamation. This is opening message in which Allah introduces himself to mankind ie he is kind and merciful not a tyrant. Shows what kind of God people have who created them and the rest of universe and provided for all the provisions they will ever need. By this right he has the right to recommend house rules but he recommends them for good of his creatures like a good parent advises his children.

He then wants people to promise him that they will take his advice seriously and live only by his set up and program to stay out of trouble and save themselves from terrible consequences. It is like you tell your kid don't put your hand in fire you will get burnt. If your child ignores your advice and does exactly what he was told not to do then he will suffer for it.

Allah makes it clear that whatever you need or want all is told about in the quran, so whenever you have any problem look for its solution in the quran. All our prayers are answered in the quran already. The quran is final revelation by Allah for ever. This is why, there is no more revelation from Allah and so no more prophets. It is because if there is no more need for revelations then why we need any more prophets?

Allah created people, gave them his advice and freed them to do as they please and face consequences. He then tells how did people before us live and what happened to them ie what actions they took and what were the consequences of their actions.


2) AL BAQARAH=divine solutions for human problems and human problems are matters related to war and peace between mankind. Word BAQARAH= the sacred cow ie separation between God and world affairs ie kings ruling in the name of country and priests ruling in the name of their make beliefs. Kings and priests do not allow questioning of their authority. It happens when people talk bull ie they have no real basis for what they do. This is why they do not want anyone question them about anything they do in the name of God or country.

This surah is all about divine set up and advice and how people went against it and what happened to them and how people came together and what they accomplished. It is about why people went to wars and why they came to peace.

3) AALI IMRAAN= people and society ie this surah is all about people as individuals and as a society. Bad society of bani israel after they went off track and good society that was accomplished by prophet Abraham and people who followed him.

4) AL NISAA= human societies and administrations, this surah tells people how societies are to be formed and set up for management of resources and people.

5) AL MAAIDAH=divine constitution, this surah is about what a constitution is so that people understand it and base their administration upon it for proper management of their community and its resources.

6) AL ANAAM=progress and prosperity, when individuals come together and form a society or community and create a constitution and base upon it their administration then they either progress and prosper or end up destroyed all depends upon what kind of constitution they have based their society upon. Quran is divine constitution so no chance of destruction if its followers base their community and administration upon it.

7) AL ARAAF= when a people work hard according to a set ultimate goal, aims and objectives with terms and conditions and guidelines ierights and responsibilities and rules and regulations etc in their constitution, they either go up high or go down in ditch of of hell of their own making. The quran guaranties that its proper followers will reach heights of excellence.

8) AL ANFAAL= a properly organised society based upon a proper constitution when it works hard it makes progress and prospers but that it must produce surplus to stay safe even if any rainy days arrive due to some human error or mistake. Humans are not free of human error and no society is 100% free of bad apples within or outside enemies. So a society needs to be strong enough to take some strong hits and survive.

9) AL TAUBAH= general amnesty, a strong society does not make war on its own people nor outsiders but gives them opportunities to repent from their destructive and harmful aims and actions and reform and become useful memebers of community.


Can one see what was the mission of the prophet according to the quran? This is the mission that was derailed by kings and their mullahs. This was the mission of hussain in karbala to show clearly for people who claimed to be muslims that islam observed by most people at the time was not real islam. Hussain was stopped from peaching this islam because it meant end of yazeediyat. When Moses preached this islam, chiefs of pharaoh became worried. When noah preached the chiefs and priests of his people became worried.

The prophet made people aware what God is and what humanity is and what are relationships between them ie between God and people and between people themselves, what peace is and why it is a necessity and how it can be achieved, what individuality is and why societies are needed, what management is supposed to be all about and why administrations are necessary, what constitution is and what purpose it ought to serve. How people make progress and prosper, what economic necessities are and how they should be guaranteed, what forgiveness is and why it is a necessity because you cannot build a society on revengefulness and stupidity.

He taught people how to make administrations accountable to people and people to administrations, how to terminate and install administrations safely. Can anyone see it in the quran you read? If not why not? It is because quran was masked with false interpretations making it book of war for looting and plundering and getting slave girls. So we need to wake up and not defend people who did all this in the name of God. Surahs 24,33,58,65 are very interesting when read in their own proper contexts. They are proof that the quran is divine constitution not a religious holy book.

MUJAHID KI AZAAN AUR WAALI BAAT MAMOOLI NAHIN HAI, MULLAH KI AZAAN KISI AUR MAQSAD KE LIYE HAI

Mullah followers pooja paat muslims cannot understand the true spirit of islam till they let go mullaiyat and start studying the quran as a divine constitution themselves. This is why the quran asks people to be thoughtful ie think think and think.

Do you my brethren not find it strange that you call quran the constitution of islam yet you or the mullahs cannot show anything from the quran that proves it is divine constitution?

It is because the king owned mullahs long time ago masked the terms used in the quran with their own make belief interpretations and that is how they misrepresented islam to public at large. Mass media is very effective even today to spread lies and so it was in times gone by ie kings and mullahs knew what they wanted so they set out and achieved it. Masses have been suffering ever since. Prophetic set up was brought down through conspiracies. Masses are easily misled and remain in that state till life gets really difficult for them to rise up.

So one need to know how revolutions come about. It is people who want something work for it trying to get support of people that matter and then things change in their direction. The prophetic mission is changing things for the betterment of humanity through waking up people and providing them with futuristic program based upon solid foundation of constitution.


So my advice to all of you is please take time and try to understand the quran yourselves. Don't be misled by mullahs in to thinking this person is rubbish and that person is rubbish. Ask mullahs hard questions so that you expose them for what they are.

We all need to have courage like sir syed, iqbal, jinnah and parwez to think and say what we think and be prepared to listen if anyone has better things to say than ourselves.

It is not a good thing to not to listen to others. Even mullahs are not wrong in everything they say. It is up to ourselves how well we prepare ourselves to see right from wrong. Look after your own interest don't leave it to others.
Mr Mullahs are the one who have transferred you the Quran and Sunnah Sir they worked on them for thousand of years and even so called old sufis if you read their books I am really very sorry in western minded person or fitna like parwaiz they will also fall in the category of extremists or some old backward fanatic Mullahs so follow Mullah if he proves you that the thing which is he saying is from Quran and Sunnah or other wise prove him wrong with Quran and Sunnah otherwise you don't have any write to criticize any Mullah and Islam has its own Political Social and Economic system so it doesn't need any other thing
 
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Mr Mullahs are the one who have transferred you the Quran and Sunnah Sir they worked on them for thousand of years and even so called old sufis if you read their books I am really very sorry in western minded person or fitna like parwaiz they will also fall in the category of extremists or some old backward fanatic Mullahs so follow Mullah if he proves you that the thing which is he saying is from Quran and Sunnah or other wise prove him wrong with Quran and Sunnah otherwise you don't have any write to criticize any Mullah and Islam has its own Political Social and Economic system so it doesn't need any other thing

Dear Zarvan, we all have right to examine anything and everything that concerns us as human beings. Without critical scrutiny we cannot establish anything is right or wrong, good or bad.

It is in our own interest to listen to anyone and everyone who wants to talk to us but we must be able to judge for ourselves whether we should heed anything anyone tells us or not. I have explained things very clearly in my posts above if you have the interest in learning and see if you can find things that are wrong and why you think they are wrong? That is the way forward. If you do not have any framework in place which we could use as common ground to argue our points from then you do not have any basis so anything you tell me or I tell you is passed by like two trains pass each other from opposite directions on different tracks.

You claim islam has its own political, social and economic systems so it does not need anything else. Fine but what is the proof that that is the case? If I tell you I have a great computer program for you, would you just accept my words for it or would you rather seek related evidence? So dear brother think about it.

My argument with mullah is not about their passing on of texts about islam but the concepts of islam they have passed on as islam and whether those concepts are sensible or not?

My point is that those concepts are contradictory therefore all of them cannot be right or true. Possibilities are that either all are false or only one may be true at most. However if you say, your sect's mullahs' concept of islam is right, the other sects people will challenge you. Now how can you prove yourself right the while you also prove all others wrong?

Likewise if you claim islam is true a nonmuslim will come along and challenge you. This is why we all need to devise some rules that clearly work and then we use them as yardstick to measure our claims and evidences and see who is talking sense and who is not. This is the way to unity of mankind.

This is why you need to find some way of putting your point of view across to others convincingly.

Just saying I am right and having nothing to back your claim leaves you totally exposed. This is why my brotherly advise to you is please learn rules and follow them in your claims and evidences and you will be fine.

You should not stop listening to others just because some body told you, it is because that person may have his own agenda to keep you unaware of concerns of others. Or how would you feel if all people neglected your call and ignored you? You would love to know why anyone would do that to you or you will remain upset.

You claim parwez is a fitnah. Do you know any scholar in the islamic world of his standing? He single handedly put all mullahs in their place. This is why mullahs were against him because he exposed them to their core. The sole supporter of jinnah marhoom against attack of all the mullahs save a few who came aboard later.

You seem to condemn people without knowing about them and their arguments for their stance. This is not a good way to learn. Learn to look at things really critically and search for supporting evidence for your stance. That would be better way of learning things and reaching better conclusions.

Ji and HT like are not the people who know islamic systems. How do I know that? Because their own party constitutions are unislamic. If they knew the quran they would know what islam is because quran is islam's constitution so they would have based their organiations on the quran not on constitutions beside the quran like all the muslims counties.

This does not mean they are mullahs, they are not. Mullahs are mazhabi people nothing to do with islam as a deen. Modoodi marhoom was not a mullah nor were people like dr israr marhoom or ghamdi sb or dr tahir al qadri etc. These people are deeni scholars but they did not give up fiqh of malukiyat as shariah law. May be they did not want fatwas but they got them anyway.

None of them has reached the level of parwez marhoom a real scholar of deen of his time. This does not mean all he said was ok but that he directed muslims in the right direction just like sir syed, iqbal and jinnah.

Mullahs cannot even defend their stance on sunnah definition, try if you like. So if a group of people have no idea what sunnah is what else can they tell us about rest of deen? They are only good as hufaaz of quran and hadith and that is how far their knowledge goes. If you are in doubt then go and find out.

If you ask any mullahs, what is islamic structure for the community organisation? Their answer is islam does not tell so you can put in place anything in the name of islam as far as mullahs are concerned.

The quran tells these in detail after all it is constitution of islam and if it did not tell these things what else can it be good for? So please think about your claims and see how you contradict them yourself.

Just because some madrassa gives some one some certificate does not mean that that person is really knowledgeable about islam. Knowledge is proof of itself ie it speaks for itself. If I claim something and give you a sound evidence that you cannot refute then that means I have proven my point to you. On the contrary the main argument of mullahs is, we do not accepting one's arguments unless one provide certificates from some madrassa and that madrassa has to be the one they approve. If each of us argued that way we will never be able to solve any issue because each person who comes from a different educational institution would reject others on the same ground that you do not have the certificate from the same place that I have so you are wrong.


This should make it obvious to you why it is wrong to side with anything or anyone without solid evidence if you have to be against all others.

regards and all the best.
 
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