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US allowed ISIS to take Ramadi

U.S. is obviously calculating the best possiblities that keep the region powerless and easily controlled by the U.S. in the longterm and make as much trouble for independent states in the neighbourhood as possible.
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They make the ground for terrorism removing or weakening anything that keeps the country stable.
They nuture the opposition, criminals, terrorist, extremists it doesn't matter.
They watch them grind down the infrastructure of the region.
Then they empower a selected force or puppet regime, tryant or warlord doesn't matter, what does is his loyalty and will to sell out his country to the U.S. in exchange for power and money.

Nothing new in their books.
 
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ok Nederlands :rofl: aren't you just full of hate and stereotyping.

can't help terrorists moved in to fill the void with the downfall of Saddam. maybe some countries just aren't meant for democracy and need a tyrant to hold the pieces together :butcher:

Can't help it? Maybe aren't meant to be democratic? Shouldn't you have told that dumb son of a bitch redneck texan pos before he invaded? F off huh, go to ar-15.com

U.S. is obviously calculating the best possiblities that keep the region powerless and easily controlled by the U.S. in the longterm and make as much trouble for independent states in the neighbourhood as possible.
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They make the ground for terrorism removing or weakening anything that keeps the country stable.
They nuture the opposition, criminals, terrorist, extremists it doesn't matter.
They watch them grind down the infrastructure of the region.
Then they empower a selected force or puppet regime, tryant or warlord doesn't matter, what does is his loyalty and will to sell out his country to the U.S. in exchange for power and money.

Nothing new in their books.

Which is why China needs to rise quickly. At least support those who oppose these plans, or otherwise weaken the US in an arms race. Make them the Soviet Union of the next cold war.
 
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Can't help it? Maybe aren't meant to be democratic? Shouldn't you have told that dumb son of a bitch redneck texan pos before he invaded? F off huh, go to ar-15.com



Which is why China needs to rise quickly. At least support those who oppose these plans, or otherwise weaken the US in an arms race. Make them the Soviet Union of the next cold war.


I'm curious on how successful the caliphate is going to be.

at least it's not puppet of the kuffir

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:coffee::coffee:


it's not even all that bad for us infidels if you think about it. either a) they stop selling oil to the devil or b) oil jump to $200 a barrel which is bad not just for the U.S, but everybody who imports oil

but it's good news for oil shales and oil sand. energy independence is assured.


a dark age awaits the IS :D while we will innovate.
 
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You're the troll. The US is SUPPOSED to want to defeat Daesh. And yet not a single bomb was dropped on them. When Kurdish areas are at risk, they go broken arrow on them. So who's the troll.

This is way above your pay-grade kid.

I'm sure the mighty nation of Holland can commit more in the war effort against ISIS/ISIL/IS than 6 F-16s.

US is not going to assist Iran as we know Iraqi victory will mean Iran will use Iraqi people/borders/resources to assist Assad in Syria and attack Saudi Arabia from Iraq in near future.

Don't you have the MCATs to study for?

The US needs Iraq to unify, not further divide itself into sectarian conflict, if it takes loosing a city here and there then so be it.

Brotherhoods are forged under fire.
 
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2000 Iraqi troops..er ... withdraw to defensive positions when faced with an attack by 150 daesh and its the yanks fault?
 

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2000 Iraqi troops..er ... withdraw to defensive positions when faced with an attack by 150 daesh and its the yanks fault?
No, let me rephrase it for you so, you might understand.

"Iraqi troops withdraw to defensive positions when faced with an attack by 150 daesh" and "Yanks watched the whole clash and didn't engaged ISIS"... it is simple right ?

To add, same thing "Watching ISIS to capture a town" happened in Palmyra/Syria" a few days ago.
 
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there is a problem in Iraqi army but why blame only Iraqis for this?
they should have kept a strong Iraqi army backbone .

USA are the most actives .... so why blame them ???
the problem is more about other countries doing nothing .
let just remember how it works in USA: they cannot afford to send troops so much: they need lot of political actions and opposition agreements . obama cannot send as many troops as he wants.

sadly the situation is bad in Iraq.
i see many people saying Iraqi army is bad and blabla .. it is cheap and convenient comment.
fact is the most important : something should be down to destroy this IS . lot of countries are not active in this around. but in fact there was no better option than a coalition attacking this group (coalition of arab countries for exemple). and Iran should help Iraqi army but not in "sunni" parts.
 
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This is why the world hates America and AmericaNS. Get into Iraq, fu-k it all up for 10 years, and then get your fat mcdonalds belly out and say 'not our business'. I hope the day comes soon that the dollar collapses, and the rest of the world will be released from your so called superpower status. Paper tiger with no real economy and only guns. Good. Won't be too long. Not 2 decades out.


Such a twisted version of events.No,the US stayed for ten years,fought both sides ,then bribed them,managed to establish a functioning country only for Maliki to openly discriminate against the sunnis and thus opening Pandora's box yet again.Don't mention the outcry "leave! leave US!" (the same for Afghans under that Karzai prick.)

Are you douches for real ? "They're the great satan ! -pls comeback and help us !-you're the great satan again ! leave my lands!"-pls comeback and help me!-no,leave invader!" LMFAO,....sometimes i think you're 5 year olds.
 
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Such a twisted version of events.No,the US stayed for ten years,fought both sides ,then bribed them,managed to establish a functioning country only for Maliki to openly discriminate against the sunnis and thus opening Pandora's box yet again.Don't mention the outcry "leave! leave US!" (the same for Afghans under that Karzai prick.)

Are you douches for real ? "They're the great satan ! -pls comeback and help us !-you're the great satan again ! leave my lands!"-pls comeback and help me!-no,leave invader!" LMFAO,....sometimes i think you're 5 year olds.

I'm not going to argue with idiots who don't understand what's going on. The number 1 thing you do when invading a country and if you want stability and order is to NOT disband the entire fuc=ing military and security apparatus. There you go, biggest give away that they wanted the country to become ungovernable and to rip it into pieces. Any idiot who tells you otherwise, needs a slap in the mouth. Yes, de 'nazi' fication. BS.

I'm curious on how successful the caliphate is going to be.

at least it's not puppet of the kuffir

140724-isis-female-mutilation-916_0095269dc5440f7fcc232c48916470bb.jpg


:coffee::coffee:


it's not even all that bad for us infidels if you think about it. either a) they stop selling oil to the devil or b) oil jump to $200 a barrel which is bad not just for the U.S, but everybody who imports oil

but it's good news for oil shales and oil sand. energy independence is assured.


a dark age awaits the IS :D while we will innovate.

You really are dumber than those flags in your avatar suggest. Sunni lands in Iraq have not one single drop of oil. Get that? Read a book.
 
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I'm not going to argue with idiots who don't understand what's going on. The number 1 thing you do when invading a country and if you want stability and order is to NOT disband the entire fuc=ing military and security apparatus. There you go, biggest give away that they wanted the country to become ungovernable and to rip it into pieces. Any idiot who tells you otherwise, needs a slap in the mouth. Yes, de 'nazi' fication. BS.


Maliki could have reinstated those people but he prefered to discriminate against sunnis.Here we are now,deal with it.
 
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Maliki could have reinstated those people but he prefered to discriminate against sunnis.Here we are now,deal with it.

I think you should read more into Iraqi politics if you want to run off your mouth. Those 'sunni' politicians were US/Saudi puppets, wanting more say than a large Shia majority. How can 15% of the population want as much say as over 75% of the population? They should then fu-k off to the GCC and sit in their villas.
 
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I think you should read more into Iraqi politics if you want to run off your mouth. Those 'sunni' politicians were US/Saudi puppets, wanting more say than a large Shia majority. How can 15% of the population want as much say as over 75% of the population? They should then fu-k off to the GCC and sit in their villas.


Yes,yes,there was a reason for discrimination,we've heard it all before.Anyway,the Yanks left,pls concentrate more on stopping well armed thousands of soldiers from fleeing like women in the face of 150 jihadis and less on moaning because the US doesn't want to return to fight YOUR war.Better yet,pls send the Qaher for air raids.
 
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