US AF-PAK relations : A telling picture!

[maximuswarrior]

Mohammad Taqi‏ @mazdaki nails this one.

@pakistani342 @Kaptaan
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US relations with Afghans and Pakistan summed up for PM who thinks it isn't all about Afghanistan.

LOL Yet, here we are in 2017 with Afghanistan still being a failed narcotic state despite being a US colony.

I would rather have the officials of my country not meet any US official let alone a pu$$ygrabber. LOL how can any sane person feel pride in sitting next to a Muslim hating Nazi? You got that right. Only a sell out Afghan can feel pride in this despicable moment.

 

[IceCold]

1. Semantics nothing more ( join task force!! give me a break) You are inviting Godless communists into your country with final say in anything strategic so spare me the semantics. Call the American presence whatever you wish, the fact of the matter is that US and NATO will have presence on your flank, with billions in assistance every year to the AF gov.

If they are semantics than show me where are those Godless communist? There is no Chinese military presence in Pakistan as of yet. And good for you in taking those billions while your country continues deeper into a shit hole.

2. Pakistan was not blamed? If you cant infer what was implicitly said by naming every group that Pak is nurturing then then probably it is time to go back to school!

It is time for you to go back to the reading because clearly you lack the skills to see or maybe you just dont want to see. BRICS mentioned groups that were already banned in Pakistan. They also mentioned TTP operated from Afghanistan.

 

[A-Team]

It is time for you to go back to the reading because clearly you lack the skills to see or maybe you just dont want to see. BRICS mentioned groups that were already banned in Pakistan. They also mentioned TTP operated from Afghanistan.

Here is the BRIC declaration fully supporting Afghanistan, its people and the ANSF while simultaneously going strong on groups sheltered in Pak and supported by it. This should be enough schooling for you today! You must be blind not to see an explicit mentioning of these groups and also by extension its supporter.

As for TTP, to hell with them as well, like we care for those barbarians.

https://www.brics2017.org/English/Documents/Summit/201709/t20170908_2021.html
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-We support the efforts of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces in fighting terrorist organizations.

- We, in this regard, express concern on the security situation in the region and violence caused by the Taliban, ISIL/DAISH, Al-Qaida and its affiliates including Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, the Haqqani network, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, TTP and Hizb ut-Tahrir.

 

[Imran Khan]

its may be matter of proud for afghans that US president meet them for us we want to go away from USA as much as possible

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Mohammad Taqi‏ @mazdaki nails this one.

@pakistani342 @Kaptaan
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US relations with Afghans and Pakistan summed up for PM who thinks it isn't all about Afghanistan.

There are two FACTS that your kind is failing to comprehend.

First, its the Americans who like good pet dogs with their tails firmly tucked between their legs and after getting rejected TWICE for audience with Pakistan, got third time lucky in their request to have meeting with Pakistan. It was America which was dieing for meeting with Pakistan not other way round.

Secondly, you should listen to Abbasi speech in UN where he ripped apart American narrative while being on their soil. Basically it's a case of our way or highway.

Pakistan is a sovereign and PROUD nation which doesn't need any endorsement from anyone for its policies and narratives, unlike occupied Afghanistan and it's people who get kicks out getting pet on the back from occupying masters.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Good to see your leader meeting Trump, an occupied people deserve some dignity after all, it would be insulting if all the contact they ever had with US leaders was the local ISAF commander.

 

[Yerusalem 4880 Kms]

The picture above should be a telling for the sane minds on how that approach is working for Pakistan.

Listen Afghani Pakistani P.M is on temporary post so he met only US official while Ghani is elected leader so he met Trump further Trump knows Pakistanis are angry may have been snubbed if he meet them that is why he avoided.

 

[Shapur]

Good to see your leader meeting Trump, an occupied people deserve some dignity after all, it would be insulting if all the contact they ever had with US leaders was the local ISAF commander.

I don't get how Pakistanis can try to blackmail Afghans by saying Afghanistan is occupied when the NATO supply route runs through Pakistan and Pakistan provided all the help the occupiers needed to occupy Afghanistan? Having some shame and introspection is not a bad thing.

I do understand that Pakistan had no choice and had to side with occupiers due to uncle Sam who threatened to bomb your country back to stone age (Musharaf) if yoj don't cooperate but come on cut Afghans some slack. You can't have your cake and eat it too as the Brits say.

 

[Jungibaaz]

I don't get how Pakistanis can try to blackmail Afghans by saying Afghanistan is occupied when the NATO supply route runs through Pakistan and Pakistan provided all the help the occupiers needed to occupy Afghanistan? Having some shame and introspection is not a bad thing.

I do understand that Pakistan had no choice and had to side with occupiers due to uncle Sam who threatened to bomb your country back to stone age (Musharaf) if yoj don't cooperate but come on cut Afghans some slack. You can't have your cake and eat it too as the Brits say.

I do cut Afghans some slack, in fact I do that quite a lot. I just don't do it so much for those in Afghanistan supportive of the current regime who might otherwise delude themselves into thinking better of their situation. Pakistan's interests and role in Afghanistan is mostly secondary and unimportant, what's important is Afghanistan being at peace, free from war, occupation and with some degree of proper governance which too must be established by mutual consent.

 

[defence_analyst]

I don't get how Pakistanis can try to blackmail Afghans by saying Afghanistan is occupied when the NATO supply route runs through Pakistan and Pakistan provided all the help the occupiers needed to occupy Afghanistan? Having some shame and introspection is not a bad thing.

I do understand that Pakistan had no choice and had to side with occupiers due to uncle Sam who threatened to bomb your country back to stone age (Musharaf) if yoj don't cooperate but come on cut Afghans some slack. You can't have your cake and eat it too as the Brits say.

How saying afghanistan is occupied is blackmail? Pakistan had a choice but Musharraf wanted to take advantage by removing all sanctions on Pakistan after nuke tests. He should have made better deal though looking back. Like sealing the border and putting army in western border before American invasion start which was going to happen one way or another. And as far as bombing back to stone age, look what they are doing to N.Korea..... Trump threaten to bomb them every day but its not as easy as bombing Afghanistan.

 

[Shapur]

How saying afghanistan is occupied is blackmail? Pakistan had a choice but Musharraf wanted to take advantage by removing all sanctions on Pakistan after nuke tests. He should have made better deal though looking back. Like sealing the border and putting army in western border before American invasion start which was going to happen one way or another. And as far as bombing back to stone age, look what they are doing to N.Korea..... Trump threaten to bomb them every day but its not as easy as bombing Afghanistan.

On one hand some Pakistanis want Afghans to die fighting the Kuffars and on the otherhand it is Pakistan which gives supply routes to the kuffar to make the occupation possible in the first place. Isn't that hypocracy?

I do cut Afghans some slack, in fact I do that quite a lot. I just don't do it so much for those in Afghanistan supportive of the current regime who might otherwise delude themselves into thinking better of their situation. Pakistan's interests and role in Afghanistan is mostly secondary and unimportant, what's important is Afghanistan being at peace, free from war, occupation and with some degree of proper governance which too must be established by mutual consent.

There would be no occupation if Pakistan refused fo provide the supply lines for the occupiers like Iran. Current regime despite its shortcomings is still preferable to the Taliban or ISIS alternatives. Hopefully Ashraf Ghani will persuade the Taliban to the negotiating table and free them from Pakistani influence and thus get rid of any levarage Pakistan might have. There are some traitors within Afghanistan who are an obsticle to the peace process but they will be dealt with in due time.

 

[Radio Mirchi]

Mohammad Taqi‏ @mazdaki nails this one.

@pakistani342 @Kaptaan
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US relations with Afghans and Pakistan summed up for PM who thinks it isn't all about Afghanistan.

A picture is worth more than a thousand word. Pak PM does not even get an appointment with the US president.

 

[defence_analyst]

On one hand some Pakistanis want Afghans to die fighting the Kuffars and on the otherhand it is Pakistan which gives supply routes to the kuffar to make the occupation possible in the first place. Isn't that hypocracy?

Pakistani state look for its own interest. But average mullah out there doesn't want Afghanistan to be occupied. I don't see any hypocrisy, not everyone can be on same page. Pakistan had blocked supply routes before, it just make things very expensive for USA and thats it. If Pakistan acted like N. Korea back then it would have played right in India's hand who was ready to do anything. I don't blame Musharraf for providing routes but not taking advantage of situation.

Afghan taliban are not friends of Pakistan, they just needed Pakistan for survival and prosper. If Afghanistan stop claiming Pakistan lands then Islamabad will dump afghan taliban in a minute.

 

[Mugwop]

@A-Team
You do realize that this is the same guy who has authorized the use of MOAB in afghanistan right?

 

[Shapur]

Pakistani state look for its own interest. But average mullah out there doesn't want Afghanistan to be occupied. I don't see any hypocrisy, not everyone can be on same page. Pakistan had blocked supply routes before, it just make things very expensive for USA and thats it. If Pakistan acted like N. Korea back then it would have played right in India's hand who was ready to do anything. I don't blame Musharraf for providing routes but not taking advantage of situation.

Afghan taliban are not friends of Pakistan, they just needed Pakistan for survival and prosper. If Afghanistan stop claiming Pakistan lands then Islamabad will dump afghan taliban in a minute.

At least you are honest and not like some others who try to play the Ummah card or suggest that Pakistan cares about Pashtuns in Afghanistan .