Unraveling of Pakistan’s economy

[NakedLunch]

Sorry to hear about that. My heart goes out to you and your brother. But Mashallah he recovered and is a true fighter. If something like that happened now, you know someone from our community would go out and murder the racist and set his house on fire. Race fights were common at school. Quite fun actually.....lol.

Funnily enough, I have to agree with the indians here. They are right. They are NOT the same as us Pakistanis. We are completely different to them in terms of physical appearance, race, genetics, culture, heritage and many other things. They have to side with white people because they are not physically capable of looking after themselves and don't know how to fight man to man on the streets of the UK.

Bro, just think about this- less than 100,000 British soldiers and administrators colonized India. Think about that. That is Indians for you. At least in the Muslim world we fight. Forget our donkey leaders, at least we fight and die bro. That is something these Indians will never understand. Why else were they colonized for a 1000 years and now are being pimped by the USA and a tiny country called Isra-hell? Indians are scum. All of them.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Bro, just think about this- less than 100,000 British soldiers and administrators colonized India. Think about that. That is Indians for you. At least in the Muslim world we fight. Forget our donkey leaders, at least we fight and die bro. That is something these Indians will never understand. Why else were they colonized for a 1000 years and now are being pimped by the USA and a tiny country called Isra-hell? Indians are scum. All of them.

Lol........you also need a large strong stomach to look at them for more than 2 seconds before puking..........lol

 

[Kyoto]

Anyway,these Indians always sided with white people for some reason. They always tried to make out that they were different to us. 'We are not Pakis we are indian'. LOL! Made no difference, they got fcked up too! LOL! But I never met an Indian who would fight or defend. Pussies. All of them.

British Hindu Indians are the biggest coconuts. They are often so successful because they drop their religion and culture asap and learn to do a posh accent. When they get called 'p*ki' they just say 'actually we're indian and we hate p*kis too' even though the brown p*ki corner shop owner stereotype is based on them. Sikhs and Muslims Indians are the only ones who keep their culture in the second generation it seems.

 

[NakedLunch]

British Hindu Indians are the biggest coconuts. They are often so successful because they drop their religion and culture asap and learn to do a posh accent. When they get called 'p*ki' they just say 'actually we're indian and we hate p*kis too' even though the brown p*ki corner shop owner stereotype is based on them. Sikhs and Muslims Indians are the only ones who keep their culture in the second generation it seems.

You know that Indian women in the UK love P.aki's. You know why? They want men and they cant find one in the Indian community, only accountants! LOL!

 

[Abingdonboy]

Bro, you from the UK too, right? Ever seen an Indian with the gob these guys show on the intenet? I have lived all my life around them and they are the biggest cowards you could ever have the misfortune of meeting. They wont even defend their own in the real world. I grew up in London and Indians were the last thing to worry about. The whites were/are tough bastards, but we took on the whites and the blacks and those guys are huge. These Indians were cowards, always hiding behind their text books. On the internet you would think they were 11 feet tall! LOL! They make me laugh. Fking twats.

Yup, reflects what I have seen here in the UK too, many Pakistanis tend to be loudmouth agressive thugs and Indians tend to be quiet intellectuals and succesful.

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............My experience is 100% identical to your's. Whites and Blacks no longer mess with us. But YES, in real life indians are VERY meek and wouldn't say boo to a goose. They don't DARE say anything to anyone and are in fact vary contrite. Physical violence is a big NO NO for them. They would rather get beat up then left a finger to defend themselves. I have seen this 1st hand myself. This weakness leads them to be gobby on the net and become internet warriors. It's a way of compensating.

I'm from London UK bro, and you?

Guess this is why Pakistan has destoryed India's military made up of weak little men every time it started a war.


Oh wait........


You guys don't even see the stupidity in what you are saying, do you? The more you talk yourselves up and belittle India the more the historical record makes a mockery of you.

Lol......I remember those days really well. But they're long dead. In fact now us Pakistanis are the aggressors and violent ones.....lol. We have that gangsta, violence rep.....lol. A lot of people can't handle the fact that the tables have turned and we're the "daddies" now. That's when they start calling us "fundamentalists" & "extremists"......lol True, the indians only have a mouth on the net. NO WHERE ELSE. indian bollywood actors are nothing in reality but homo little "pansie boys".

Revelling in being poverty stricken and criminals, I really have seen it all on PDF now.

All I have to say is your mentality perfectly reflects that of every British Pakistani I have met (a HUGE chip on your shoulder with fake bravado).

I find it most odd considering that the Pakistani community is said to be almost as succesful as the Indian in the US, whilst in the UK Pakistanis are amongst the least succesful.


Perhaps a more useful – but potentially inflammatory – comparison is with British Pakistanis, whose educational and economic results lag sadly behind their British Indian compatriots. Barely 6 per cent of British Pakistani students get three A grades at A-level; among British Pakistanis as a whole, only half are classed as economically active.

This comparison becomes almost painful when it comes to indicators of social integration: British Indians are twice as likely to marry outside their ethnic group as British Pakistanis are; 70 per cent of British Indian women work, which is close to the national average. And according to the think tank Demos, they are far more likely to live in multi-ethnic neighbourhoods, instead of the homogeneous areas where many British Pakistanis reside.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...sh-Indians-a-remarkable-story-of-success.html


Demos also found that only 6.4% of British Pakistani and 5.5% of British Bangladeshi students in England receive three A*-A grades or better - roughly half the number of white British and Anglo-Indian students.

Meanwhile, the research reveals that Britain's Indian community is leading the way as a success story of integration and economic advancement – not only out-performing most other minority groups across a host of measures, but also white Britons.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/british-ba...g-integrate-wider-society-says-report-1502081





Just under 60 per cent of British Pakistanis are living in relative poverty, while for Indians the figure is closer to 25 per cent. Indians are better represented in the top jobs than even the White British, while Pakistanis are significantly underrepresented. 12 per cent of doctors are Indian, while many Pakistanis are clustered in low-skilled professions; indeed, one study found as many as one quarter of Pakistani men drove taxis.

https://www.demos.co.uk/blog/why-are-british-indians-more-successful-than-pakistanis/

 

[VCheng]

I find it most odd considering that the Pakistani community is said to be almost as succesful as the Indian in the US, whilst in the UK Pakistanis are amongst the least succesful.

Even in USA, while economic indicators may be competitive (including healthy remittances that help Pakistan's economy), the problems caused by a lack of integration are rearing their ugly heads in the second and later generations as the first generation has, in many instances, failed to lay down the proper foundations.

 

[TSA321]

12 per cent of doctors are Indian, while many Pakistanis are clustered in low-skilled professions; indeed, one study found as many as one quarter of Pakistani men drove taxis.

Yet the most common surname for doctors in the UK is Khan.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sian-surname-common-doctors-Patel-second.html

 

[Abingdonboy]

Even in USA, while economic indicators may be competitive, the problems caused by a lack of integration are rearing their ugly heads in the second and later generations as the first generation has, in many instances, failed to lay down the proper foundations.

This I find interesting as I had always been told the US was far better at intergrating its immigrants and certainly find there is less of a negative stereotype amongst the majority of the US population against American Pakistani in the same way as there is agaisnt the British Pakistanis in the UK population.

Yet the most common surname for doctors in the UK is Khan.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sian-surname-common-doctors-Patel-second.html

And this proves........?


Speaks more to the lack of diversity in surnames in the Pakistani community but the objective facts speak for themselves (12% of UK doctors are Indians).

 

[VCheng]

This I find interesting as I had always been told the US was far better at intergrating its immigrants and certainly find there is less of a negative stereotype amongst the majority of the US population against American Pakistani in the same way as there is agaisnt the British Pakistanis in the UK population.

It is better, but only relatively speaking. The right wing brigade has been spending a lot of time and effort on the younger demographics to radicalize them, with some sporadic successes. Pockets of radicalism have been created, albeit small.

 

[TSA321]

Speaks more to the lack of diversity in surnames in the Pakistani community but the objective facts speak for themselves (12% of UK doctors are Indians).

I'd hazard a guess that Patel and Singh are more common among the Indian community than Khan is for the Pakistani community. Yet Singh doesn't even make an appearance in the top 10.

That's because they import them by the bucket load from India. Unfortunately they're of a much poorer quality than both British and Pakistani immigrant doctors.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...-from-India-more-likely-to-be-struck-off.html

The figures show that over the last five years, around 1 in 1,000 doctors who trained in Britain has been struck off. This compares with around 1 in 250 of those trained in India, and 1 in 350 of those who came here from Pakistan.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I'd hazard a guess that Patel and Singh are more common among the Indian community than Khan is for the Pakistani community. Yet Singh doesn't even make an appearance in the top 10.

That's because they import them by the bucket load from India. Unfortunately they're of a much poorer quality than both British and Pakistani immigrant doctors.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...-from-India-more-likely-to-be-struck-off.html

Again, you are just engaging in mental gymnastics and not at all refuting what I have said.

It is better, but only relatively speaking. The right wing brigade has been spending a lot of time and effort on the younger demographics to radicalize them, with some sporadic successes. Pockets of radicalism have been created, albeit small.

Radicalistation is only part of the problem I am talking about though sir. There are social, criminal and cultural issues found in the British Pakistani community that I don't think are replicated in the American Pakistani which I find rather odd as the sample is the same so is the independant variable (country of residence) such a huge factor in relative success? It seems the US model is far more succesful in this regard than the British.

Segregation may be an issue as may radicalisation but there just doesn't seem to be the same negativity surrounding the Pakistani community in the US as there is in the UK (as the result of multiple factors).

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yup, reflects what I have seen here in the UK too, many Pakistanis tend to be loudmouth agressive thugs and Indians tend to be quiet intellectuals and succesful.


Guess this is why Pakistan has destoryed India's military made up of weak little men every time it started a war.


Oh wait........


You guys don't even see the stupidity in what you are saying, do you? The more you talk yourselves up and belittle India the more the historical record makes a mockery of you.


Revelling in being poverty stricken and criminals, I really have seen it all on PDF now.

All I have to say is your mentality perfectly reflects that of every British Pakistani I have met (a HUGE chip on your shoulder with fake bravado).

I find it most odd considering that the Pakistani community is said to be almost as succesful as the Indian in the US, whilst in the UK Pakistanis are amongst the least succesful.


Perhaps a more useful – but potentially inflammatory – comparison is with British Pakistanis, whose educational and economic results lag sadly behind their British Indian compatriots. Barely 6 per cent of British Pakistani students get three A grades at A-level; among British Pakistanis as a whole, only half are classed as economically active.

This comparison becomes almost painful when it comes to indicators of social integration: British Indians are twice as likely to marry outside their ethnic group as British Pakistanis are; 70 per cent of British Indian women work, which is close to the national average. And according to the think tank Demos, they are far more likely to live in multi-ethnic neighbourhoods, instead of the homogeneous areas where many British Pakistanis reside.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...sh-Indians-a-remarkable-story-of-success.html


Demos also found that only 6.4% of British Pakistani and 5.5% of British Bangladeshi students in England receive three A*-A grades or better - roughly half the number of white British and Anglo-Indian students.

Meanwhile, the research reveals that Britain's Indian community is leading the way as a success story of integration and economic advancement – not only out-performing most other minority groups across a host of measures, but also white Britons.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/british-ba...g-integrate-wider-society-says-report-1502081





Just under 60 per cent of British Pakistanis are living in relative poverty, while for Indians the figure is closer to 25 per cent. Indians are better represented in the top jobs than even the White British, while Pakistanis are significantly underrepresented. 12 per cent of doctors are Indian, while many Pakistanis are clustered in low-skilled professions; indeed, one study found as many as one quarter of Pakistani men drove taxis.

https://www.demos.co.uk/blog/why-are-british-indians-more-successful-than-pakistanis/

Yet despite all of this, the mayor of London (the best, most advanced and richest city in the world) is a Pakistani: Sadiq Khan.....lol...the indians didn't get the top job there.

Speaking of "success", it's indian that has 30-40% of the world's most severely malnourished and extreme poor not Pakistan:

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/India-has-40-of-worlds-malnourished-Expert/articleshow/20840897.cms

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...591/India-accused-of-poverty-smokescreen.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-third-of-worlds-poorest-says-World-Bank.html

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/53-...-on-World-Toilet-Day/articleshow/26032829.cms

https://www.chinasmack.com/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions


Rather than worrying about Pakistanis in the UK and elsewhere, You guys have got more pressing & SEVERE matters to attend to like the above. Unless indians especially the more successful ones can help your race and nation alleviate the grotesque situation above, everything else you say, do or achieve becomes meaningless, null and void.

 

[Cyberian]

Who are these "independent economists"? Riaz Haq?

Are they the same "independent economists" who predicted the financial crises of 2007... after it happened?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Yet despite all of this, the mayor of London (the best, most advanced and richest city in the world) is a Pakistani: Sadiq Khan.....lol...the indians didn't get the top job there.

Pakistanis are a more organised voting bloc and when coupled with the Muslim vote Sadiq Khan is a sign of things to come.


Vote bank politics.

Speaking of "success", it's indian that has 30-40% of the world's most severely malnourished and extreme poor not Pakistan:

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/India-has-40-of-worlds-malnourished-Expert/articleshow/20840897.cms

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...591/India-accused-of-poverty-smokescreen.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-third-of-worlds-poorest-says-World-Bank.html

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/53-...-on-World-Toilet-Day/articleshow/26032829.cms

https://www.chinasmack.com/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions


Rather than worrying about Pakistanis in the UK and elsewhere, You guys have got more pressing & SEVERE matters to attend to like the above. Unless indians especially the more successful ones can help your race and nation alleviate the grotesque situation above, everything else you say, do or achieve becomes meaningless, null and void.

If it helps you sleep at night keep moving the goal posts without at all addressing a single point I have made buddy.

+ London, the "richest" and "best" city in the world, what world are you living in? By what metric?

 

[VCheng]

Segregation may be an issue as may radicalisation but there just doesn't seem to be the same negativity surrounding the Pakistani community in the US as there is in the UK (as the result of multiple factors).

That is probably correct, but in the context of this thread, expats here send more remittances on a per capita basis, indicative of their better economic performance.