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Unprecedented: Pope Francis, Russian Patriarch Kirill to meet in Cuba to heal 1,000yr rift
Published time: 5 Feb, 2016 11:19Edited time: 5 Feb, 2016 16:49
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Pope Francis (L), Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia. © Reuters / Sputnik
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The head of the Russian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Kirill, is to meet his Roman Catholic counterpart, Pope Francis, during a historic visit to Latin America. The groundbreaking meeting is to happen in mid-February in Cuba.
The meeting between heads the two major Christian churches would be an unprecedented move to mend a millennium-long rift between the Western and Eastern branches of the religion, which started with the Great Schism of 1054.

The upcoming meeting confirms Russia’s status in the Christian world, according to Alexandr Avdeev Russia’s ambassador to the Holy See. “In light of the Western sanctions, the meeting between the two celebrants is a confirmation of Russia’s role in Christian civilization,” he told TASS.

Persecution of Christians in the modern world is the main issue for the two leaders to discuss, the Russian Orthodox Church said. Christians are among the minorities suffering at the hands of groups adhering to radical Islamist ideology in places like Iraq, Syria and Somalia.

In addition to Cuba, Patriarch Kirill’s Latin American tour from February 11-22 includes Paraguay, Chile and Brazil. The meeting with Pope Francis will happen on February 12.

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Pope Francis. © Tony Gentile / Reuters
“The intersection of the routes allowed this meeting to be organized,” commented Metropolitan Hilarion, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church's Foreign Relations Department.

“The situation in the Middle East, in northern and central Africa and in some other regions where extremists are perpetrating genocide of Christians, requires immediate action and even closer cooperation between Christian churches.

“In the current tragic situation, we need to put aside internal disagreements and join efforts to save Christianity in the regions where it is subjected to most severe persecution,” he said.

Sergey Brun from the Museum of Russian Icons told RT that the meeting could signal a possible warming of relations between Russia and the West.

“It is a sign that the relations are going to get warmer at least between one of the parts of the Orthodox church, namely the Russian Orthodox church, and the church of Rome…I hope it will positively influence the dialogue between Russia and the West.”

The pontiff will make a stop in Cuba on his way to Mexico.
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The meeting has been in preparation for two decades and both Moscow and the Vatican agreed that some neutral country would be most suited for it. Austria and Hungary were among those considered, but Cuba was eventually chosen. The Patriarch and the Pope are expected to sign a joint declaration after the talks.

The Holy See called the upcoming meeting a “sign of good faith” and called on all Christians “to pray to God to bless the meeting,” the Vatican said in a statement.

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Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill. © Sergey Pyatakov / Sputnik
For the Russian Orthodox Church the meeting will be the biggest foreign affairs event since reuniting in 2007 with the Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia after a 90-year split.

The Great Schism formalized the break of communion between the Latin and Greek parts of Christianity after years of accumulating differences over theology, jurisdiction and ritual. The division endured over centuries, with mutual anathemas declared by the Pope and the Patriarch of what was then Constantinople (now Istanbul) in 1054 nullified only in 1965.
 
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@flamer84

Do Russians represents Orthodox Church like Pope represents Catholics ? I thought, Orthodox head Patriach was in Constaniople....what happened after that, how Russians claim this role ?
 
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@flamer84

Do Russians represents Orthodox Church like Pope represents Catholics ? I thought, Orthodox head Patriach was in Constaniople....what happened after that, how Russians claim this role ?

I think they (Russians) consider the Istanbul Patriarch a puppet and unilaterally claim themselves to be the Third Rome after 1453. The Russian Orthodox Church traditionally has run parallel with Russian nationalism (barring the Soviet era). However to the best of my knowledge, no other Orthodox Church has ever accepted the supremacy of the Russian Orthodox Church. Rather they tend to be controlled and dominated by the state within which they reside, in contrast to the Catholic Church which has remained independent and historically also was a major political and military player in the Italian peninsula. Orthodox Church's on the other hand have tended to be far more subservient to the secular power of the executive of the nation within which they reside.
 
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@flamer84

Do Russians represents Orthodox Church like Pope represents Catholics ? I thought, Orthodox head Patriach was in Constaniople....what happened after that, how Russians claim this role ?


The Orthodox Church of Russia represents Russians.As an example,the Romanian Ortodox Church is independent.Same for the Bulgarian Orthodox Church,Serbian,Greek,etc.None of these Churches are in a way subservient to the Russian one.
 
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The Orthodox Church of Russia represents Russians.As an example,the Romanian Ortodox Church is independent.Same for the Bulgarian Orthodox Church,Serbian,Greek,etc.None of these Churches are in a way subservient to the Russian one.
Pope Francis, Russian Patriarch Kirill to meet in Cuba to heal 1,000yr rift

When i read the title, it gave me the impression that The Orthodox Church of Russia represent all of the Orthodox...thx for clearing that.
 
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Pope Francis, Russian Patriarch Kirill to meet in Cuba to heal 1,000yr rift

When i read the title, it gave me the impression that The Orthodox Church of Russia represent all of the Orthodox...thx for clearing that.


Nope,even the "3rd Rome" title is just invented and self atributed.Just like i would call myself the god emperor of mankind.

The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest Church in Ortodoxy though.
 
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@flamer84

Do Russians represents Orthodox Church like Pope represents Catholics ? I thought, Orthodox head Patriach was in Constaniople....what happened after that, how Russians claim this role ?
The Russian Orthodox Church represents about 150 mln Orthodox Christians from 260 mln Orthodox Christians around the world.
 
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The Russian Orthodox Church represents about 150 mln Orthodox Christians from 260 mln Orthodox Christians around the world.
"Eastern Orthodoxy has no Papacy or similar authority, but instead teaches that all bishops are equal by virtue of their ordination, and each autocephalous church is typically governed by a Holy Synod. "

My bad, i didn't know this. I thought Constantinople was the capital of Eastern Orthodoxy and it's Patriarch was the leader of the all Orthodox people, which wondered me with the fall of Constantinople if Russian Orthodox Church had taken up that title.

But there was no form of Papacy at the past too, all clear now.
 
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"Eastern Orthodoxy has no Papacy or similar authority, but instead teaches that all bishops are equal by virtue of their ordination, and each autocephalous church is typically governed by a Holy Synod. "

My bad, i didn't know this. I thought Constantinople was the capital of Eastern Orthodoxy and it's Patriarch was the leader of the all Orthodox people, which wondered me with the fall of Constantinople if Russian Orthodox Church had taken up that title.

But there was no form of Papacy at the past too, all clear now.
The Patriarch of Constantinople is nominally considered the first among the Orthodox Patriarchs. But for many centuries, Russia was the only independent Orthodox state. The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest, richest and most influential of the Orthodox churches in the world. Among Christian churches it is second only to the Roman Catholic Church. So the Pope and Patriarch of All Russia - two of the most powerful man in Christendom.
 
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The Patriarch of Constantinople is nominally considered the first among the Orthodox Patriarchs.
First among equals, understood.

But for many centuries, Russia was the only independent Orthodox state. The Russian Orthodox Church is the largest, richest and most influential of the Orthodox churches in the world. Among Christian churches it is second only to the Roman Catholic Church. So the Pope and Patriarch of All Russia - two of the most powerful man in Christendom.
Okay, now i get the importance of this meeting.
 
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Its really good to see this and i hope it can help to get some understanding between our nations as well. Its strange to think we were one church back then.

@Sinan visited the hagia sophia in 2013 and was really impressed about the efforts you guys put into her stabilisation. Its such an important building. I´m also glad about the wisdom your leadership once had to not use it as mosque anymore. Too much political and religious explosive stuff and there is no need to pour more oil in a conflict.
 
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