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Wow, Turkey was hit hard in 2009.
730,325 > 615,483
Wasn't the recession the year before?
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Wow, Turkey was hit hard in 2009.
730,325 > 615,483
Wasn't the recession the year before?
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Four Thar coal wells to produce gas next week
ISLAMABAD - Chairman of the Governing Board of Thar Coal Project, Dr Samar Mubarakmand, on Sunday said four more coal wells had been set on fire and as a result gas production from these would begin from next week. Talking to a private TV channel, he said a flame would be lit from gas as emission began from these wells towards the end of this month. Dr Samar said through underground gasification technology, electricity could be generated at Rs 3 to Rs 4 per unit while diesel could be produced at $40 per barrel. The average rate of power production through furnace oil came to Rs 20 per megawatt, he added. He said as much as 50,000MW of electricity a day could be generated through Thar Coal reserves. Mubarakmand said a number of foreign companies, including those of China, had expressed interest to invest in Thar Coal Project.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/05/14/news/national/four-thar-coal-wells-to-produce-gas-next-week/
THAR COAL RESERVES in Pakistan
Thar coal reserves..
if all The oil Reserves of Saudia Arab & Iran Put Together
These Are Approximately 375 Billion Barrels,But
A Single Thar Coal Reserve Of Sindh is about 850 Trillion Cubic Feet,
Which is More Than Oil Reserves Of Saudia & Iran.
These reserves estimated at 850 trillion cubic feet (TCF) of gas, about 30 times higher than Pakistan 's proven gas reserves of 28 TCF.
Dr Murtaza Mughal president of Pakistan Economy Watch in a statement said that these reserves of coal worth USD 25 trillion can not only cater the electricity requirements of the country for next 100 years but also save almost four billion dollars in staggering oil import bill.
Just 2% usage of Thar Coal Can Produce 20,000 Mega Watts of Electricity for next 40Years ,without any single Second of Load Shedding.
and if the whole reserves are utilized, then it could easily be imagined how much energy could be generated.
The coal power generation would cost Pakistan PKR 5.67 per unit while power generated by Independent Power Projects cost PKR 9.27
It Requires Just Initial 420 Billion Rupees Initial Investment,
Whereas Pakistan Receives annually 1220 Billion from Tax Only
Chinese and other companies had not only carried out surveys and feasibilities of this project but also offered 100 percent investment in last 7 to 8 years but the Petroleum Gang always discouraged them in a very systematic way
But Petroleum lobby , is very strong in Pakistan and they are against any other means of power generation except for the imported oil. This lobby is major beneficiary of the increasing oil bill that is estimated above 15 billion dollar this year. Even GOV. is planning to Sell all these reserve to a company on a very low price.
when pervaz Musharaf was president he gave green signal to embark upon the initiation of work on exploiting energy potential of these coal reserves of Thar under a modern strategy.
Think About This, How We Can Help Our Home Land .
Spread this knowledge among all Pakistanis.
THAR COAL RESERVES in Pakistan
At least $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan
WASHINGTON The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials.
The previously unknown deposits including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals like lithium are so big and include so many minerals that are essential to modern industry that Afghanistan could eventually be transformed into one of the most important mining centers in the world, the United States officials believe.
An internal Pentagon memo, for example, states that Afghanistan could become the Saudi Arabia of lithium, a key raw material in the manufacture of batteries for laptops and BlackBerrys.
The vast scale of Afghanistans mineral wealth was discovered by a small team of Pentagon officials and American geologists. The Afghan government and President Hamid Karzai were recently briefed, American officials said.
While it could take many years to develop a mining industry, the potential is so great that officials and executives in the industry believe it could attract heavy investment even before mines are profitable, providing the possibility of jobs that could distract from generations of war.
There is stunning potential here, Gen. David H. Petraeus, commander of the United States Central Command, said in an interview on Saturday. There are a lot of ifs, of course, but I think potentially it is hugely significant.
The value of the newly discovered mineral deposits dwarfs the size of Afghanistans existing war-bedraggled economy, which is based largely on opium production and narcotics trafficking as well as aid from the United States and other industrialized countries. Afghanistans gross domestic product is only about $12 billion.
This will become the backbone of the Afghan economy, said Jalil Jumriany, an adviser to the Afghan minister of mines.
American and Afghan officials agreed to discuss the mineral discoveries at a difficult moment in the war in Afghanistan. The American-led offensive in Marja in southern Afghanistan has achieved only limited gains. Meanwhile, charges of corruption and favoritism continue to plague the Karzai government, and Mr. Karzai seems increasingly embittered toward the White House.
So the Obama administration is hungry for some positive news to come out of Afghanistan. Yet the American officials also recognize that the mineral discoveries will almost certainly have a double-edged impact.
Instead of bringing peace, the newfound mineral wealth could lead the Taliban to battle even more fiercely to regain control of the country.
The corruption that is already rampant in the Karzai government could also be amplified by the new wealth, particularly if a handful of well-connected oligarchs, some with personal ties to the president, gain control of the resources. Just last year, Afghanistans minister of mines was accused by American officials of accepting a $30 million bribe to award China the rights to develop its copper mine. The minister has since been replaced.
Endless fights could erupt between the central government in Kabul and provincial and tribal leaders in mineral-rich districts. Afghanistan has a national mining law, written with the help of advisers from the World Bank, but it has never faced a serious challenge.
No one has tested that law; no one knows how it will stand up in a fight between the central government and the provinces, observed Paul A. Brinkley, deputy undersecretary of defense for business and leader of the Pentagon team that discovered the deposits.
At the same time, American officials fear resource-hungry China will try to dominate the development of Afghanistans mineral wealth, which could upset the United States, given its heavy investment in the region. After winning the bid for its Aynak copper mine in Logar Province, China clearly wants more, American officials said.
Another complication is that because Afghanistan has never had much heavy industry before, it has little or no history of environmental protection either. The big question is, can this be developed in a responsible way, in a way that is environmentally and socially responsible? Mr. Brinkley said. No one knows how this will work.
With virtually no mining industry or infrastructure in place today, it will take decades for Afghanistan to exploit its mineral wealth fully. This is a country that has no mining culture, said Jack Medlin, a geologist in the United States Geological Surveys international affairs program. Theyve had some small artisanal mines, but now there could be some very, very large mines that will require more than just a gold pan.
The mineral deposits are scattered throughout the country, including in the southern and eastern regions along the border with Pakistan that have had some of the most intense combat in the American-led war against the Taliban insurgency.
The Pentagon task force has already started trying to help the Afghans set up a system to deal with mineral development. International accounting firms that have expertise in mining contracts have been hired to consult with the Afghan Ministry of Mines, and technical data is being prepared to turn over to multinational mining companies and other potential foreign investors. The Pentagon is helping Afghan officials arrange to start seeking bids on mineral rights by next fall, officials said.
The Ministry of Mines is not ready to handle this, Mr. Brinkley said. We are trying to help them get ready.
Like much of the recent history of the country, the story of the discovery of Afghanistans mineral wealth is one of missed opportunities and the distractions of war.
In 2004, American geologists, sent to Afghanistan as part of a broader reconstruction effort, stumbled across an intriguing series of old charts and data at the library of the Afghan Geological Survey in Kabul that hinted at major mineral deposits in the country. They soon learned that the data had been collected by Soviet mining experts during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but cast aside when the Soviets withdrew in 1989.
During the chaos of the 1990s, when Afghanistan was mired in civil war and later ruled by the Taliban, a small group of Afghan geologists protected the charts by taking them home, and returned them to the Geological Surveys library only after the American invasion and the ouster of the Taliban in 2001.
There were maps, but the development did not take place, because you had 30 to 35 years of war, said Ahmad Hujabre, an Afghan engineer who worked for the Ministry of Mines in the 1970s.
Armed with the old Russian charts, the United States Geological Survey began a series of aerial surveys of Afghanistans mineral resources in 2006, using advanced gravity and magnetic measuring equipment attached to an old Navy Orion P-3 aircraft that flew over about 70 percent of the country.
The data from those flights was so promising that in 2007, the geologists returned for an even more sophisticated study, using an old British bomber equipped with instruments that offered a three-dimensional profile of mineral deposits below the earths surface. It was the most comprehensive geologic survey of Afghanistan ever conducted.
The handful of American geologists who pored over the new data said the results were astonishing.
But the results gathered dust for two more years, ignored by officials in both the American and Afghan governments. In 2009, a Pentagon task force that had created business development programs in Iraq was transferred to Afghanistan, and came upon the geological data. Until then, no one besides the geologists had bothered to look at the information and no one had sought to translate the technical data to measure the potential economic value of the mineral deposits.
Soon, the Pentagon business development task force brought in teams of American mining experts to validate the surveys findings, and then briefed Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Mr. Karzai.
So far, the biggest mineral deposits discovered are of iron and copper, and the quantities are large enough to make Afghanistan a major world producer of both, United States officials said. Other finds include large deposits of niobium, a soft metal used in producing superconducting steel, rare earth elements and large gold deposits in Pashtun areas of southern Afghanistan.
Just this month, American geologists working with the Pentagon team have been conducting ground surveys on dry salt lakes in western Afghanistan where they believe there are large deposits of lithium. Pentagon officials said that their initial analysis at one location in Ghazni Province showed the potential for lithium deposits as large of those of Bolivia, which now has the worlds largest known lithium reserves.
For the geologists who are now scouring some of the most remote stretches of Afghanistan to complete the technical studies necessary before the international bidding process is begun, there is a growing sense that they are in the midst of one of the great discoveries of their careers.
On the ground, its very, very, promising, Mr. Medlin said. Actually, its pretty amazing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?pagewanted=all
ISLAMABAD - Chairman of the Governing Board of Thar Coal Project, Dr Samar Mubarakmand, on Sunday said four more coal wells had been set on fire and as a result gas production from these would begin from next week. Talking to a private TV channel, he said a flame would be lit from gas as emission began from these wells towards the end of this month. Dr Samar said through underground gasification technology, electricity could be generated at Rs 3 to Rs 4 per unit while diesel could be produced at $40 per barrel. The average rate of power production through furnace oil came to Rs 20 per megawatt, he added. He said as much as 50,000MW of electricity a day could be generated through Thar Coal reserves. Mubarakmand said a number of foreign companies, including those of China, had expressed interest to invest in Thar Coal Project.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2012/05/14/news/national/four-thar-coal-wells-to-produce-gas-next-week/
THAR COAL RESERVES in Pakistan
Thar coal reserves..
if all The oil Reserves of Saudia Arab & Iran Put Together
These Are Approximately 375 Billion Barrels,But
A Single Thar Coal Reserve Of Sindh is about 850 Trillion Cubic Feet,
Which is More Than Oil Reserves Of Saudia & Iran.
These reserves estimated at 850 trillion cubic feet (TCF) of gas, about 30 times higher than Pakistan 's proven gas reserves of 28 TCF.
Dr Murtaza Mughal president of Pakistan Economy Watch in a statement said that these reserves of coal worth USD 25 trillion can not only cater the electricity requirements of the country for next 100 years but also save almost four billion dollars in staggering oil import bill.
Just 2% usage of Thar Coal Can Produce 20,000 Mega Watts of Electricity for next 40Years ,without any single Second of Load Shedding.
and if the whole reserves are utilized, then it could easily be imagined how much energy could be generated.
The coal power generation would cost Pakistan PKR 5.67 per unit while power generated by Independent Power Projects cost PKR 9.27
It Requires Just Initial 420 Billion Rupees Initial Investment,
Whereas Pakistan Receives annually 1220 Billion from Tax Only
Chinese and other companies had not only carried out surveys and feasibilities of this project but also offered 100 percent investment in last 7 to 8 years but the Petroleum Gang always discouraged them in a very systematic way
But Petroleum lobby , is very strong in Pakistan and they are against any other means of power generation except for the imported oil. This lobby is major beneficiary of the increasing oil bill that is estimated above 15 billion dollar this year. Even GOV. is planning to Sell all these reserve to a company on a very low price.
when pervaz Musharaf was president he gave green signal to embark upon the initiation of work on exploiting energy potential of these coal reserves of Thar under a modern strategy.
Think About This, How We Can Help Our Home Land .
Spread this knowledge among all Pakistanis.
THAR COAL RESERVES in Pakistan
At least $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan
WASHINGTON The United States has discovered nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits in Afghanistan, far beyond any previously known reserves and enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, according to senior American government officials.
The previously unknown deposits including huge veins of iron, copper, cobalt, gold and critical industrial metals like lithium are so big and include so many minerals that are essential to modern industry that Afghanistan could eventually be transformed into one of the most important mining centers in the world, the United States officials believe.
An internal Pentagon memo, for example, states that Afghanistan could become the Saudi Arabia of lithium, a key raw material in the manufacture of batteries for laptops and BlackBerrys.
The vast scale of Afghanistans mineral wealth was discovered by a small team of Pentagon officials and American geologists. The Afghan government and President Hamid Karzai were recently briefed, American officials said.
While it could take many years to develop a mining industry, the potential is so great that officials and executives in the industry believe it could attract heavy investment even before mines are profitable, providing the possibility of jobs that could distract from generations of war.
There is stunning potential here, Gen. David H. Petraeus, commander of the United States Central Command, said in an interview on Saturday. There are a lot of ifs, of course, but I think potentially it is hugely significant.
The value of the newly discovered mineral deposits dwarfs the size of Afghanistans existing war-bedraggled economy, which is based largely on opium production and narcotics trafficking as well as aid from the United States and other industrialized countries. Afghanistans gross domestic product is only about $12 billion.
This will become the backbone of the Afghan economy, said Jalil Jumriany, an adviser to the Afghan minister of mines.
American and Afghan officials agreed to discuss the mineral discoveries at a difficult moment in the war in Afghanistan. The American-led offensive in Marja in southern Afghanistan has achieved only limited gains. Meanwhile, charges of corruption and favoritism continue to plague the Karzai government, and Mr. Karzai seems increasingly embittered toward the White House.
So the Obama administration is hungry for some positive news to come out of Afghanistan. Yet the American officials also recognize that the mineral discoveries will almost certainly have a double-edged impact.
Instead of bringing peace, the newfound mineral wealth could lead the Taliban to battle even more fiercely to regain control of the country.
The corruption that is already rampant in the Karzai government could also be amplified by the new wealth, particularly if a handful of well-connected oligarchs, some with personal ties to the president, gain control of the resources. Just last year, Afghanistans minister of mines was accused by American officials of accepting a $30 million bribe to award China the rights to develop its copper mine. The minister has since been replaced.
Endless fights could erupt between the central government in Kabul and provincial and tribal leaders in mineral-rich districts. Afghanistan has a national mining law, written with the help of advisers from the World Bank, but it has never faced a serious challenge.
No one has tested that law; no one knows how it will stand up in a fight between the central government and the provinces, observed Paul A. Brinkley, deputy undersecretary of defense for business and leader of the Pentagon team that discovered the deposits.
At the same time, American officials fear resource-hungry China will try to dominate the development of Afghanistans mineral wealth, which could upset the United States, given its heavy investment in the region. After winning the bid for its Aynak copper mine in Logar Province, China clearly wants more, American officials said.
Another complication is that because Afghanistan has never had much heavy industry before, it has little or no history of environmental protection either. The big question is, can this be developed in a responsible way, in a way that is environmentally and socially responsible? Mr. Brinkley said. No one knows how this will work.
With virtually no mining industry or infrastructure in place today, it will take decades for Afghanistan to exploit its mineral wealth fully. This is a country that has no mining culture, said Jack Medlin, a geologist in the United States Geological Surveys international affairs program. Theyve had some small artisanal mines, but now there could be some very, very large mines that will require more than just a gold pan.
The mineral deposits are scattered throughout the country, including in the southern and eastern regions along the border with Pakistan that have had some of the most intense combat in the American-led war against the Taliban insurgency.
The Pentagon task force has already started trying to help the Afghans set up a system to deal with mineral development. International accounting firms that have expertise in mining contracts have been hired to consult with the Afghan Ministry of Mines, and technical data is being prepared to turn over to multinational mining companies and other potential foreign investors. The Pentagon is helping Afghan officials arrange to start seeking bids on mineral rights by next fall, officials said.
The Ministry of Mines is not ready to handle this, Mr. Brinkley said. We are trying to help them get ready.
Like much of the recent history of the country, the story of the discovery of Afghanistans mineral wealth is one of missed opportunities and the distractions of war.
In 2004, American geologists, sent to Afghanistan as part of a broader reconstruction effort, stumbled across an intriguing series of old charts and data at the library of the Afghan Geological Survey in Kabul that hinted at major mineral deposits in the country. They soon learned that the data had been collected by Soviet mining experts during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, but cast aside when the Soviets withdrew in 1989.
During the chaos of the 1990s, when Afghanistan was mired in civil war and later ruled by the Taliban, a small group of Afghan geologists protected the charts by taking them home, and returned them to the Geological Surveys library only after the American invasion and the ouster of the Taliban in 2001.
There were maps, but the development did not take place, because you had 30 to 35 years of war, said Ahmad Hujabre, an Afghan engineer who worked for the Ministry of Mines in the 1970s.
Armed with the old Russian charts, the United States Geological Survey began a series of aerial surveys of Afghanistans mineral resources in 2006, using advanced gravity and magnetic measuring equipment attached to an old Navy Orion P-3 aircraft that flew over about 70 percent of the country.
The data from those flights was so promising that in 2007, the geologists returned for an even more sophisticated study, using an old British bomber equipped with instruments that offered a three-dimensional profile of mineral deposits below the earths surface. It was the most comprehensive geologic survey of Afghanistan ever conducted.
The handful of American geologists who pored over the new data said the results were astonishing.
But the results gathered dust for two more years, ignored by officials in both the American and Afghan governments. In 2009, a Pentagon task force that had created business development programs in Iraq was transferred to Afghanistan, and came upon the geological data. Until then, no one besides the geologists had bothered to look at the information and no one had sought to translate the technical data to measure the potential economic value of the mineral deposits.
Soon, the Pentagon business development task force brought in teams of American mining experts to validate the surveys findings, and then briefed Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Mr. Karzai.
So far, the biggest mineral deposits discovered are of iron and copper, and the quantities are large enough to make Afghanistan a major world producer of both, United States officials said. Other finds include large deposits of niobium, a soft metal used in producing superconducting steel, rare earth elements and large gold deposits in Pashtun areas of southern Afghanistan.
Just this month, American geologists working with the Pentagon team have been conducting ground surveys on dry salt lakes in western Afghanistan where they believe there are large deposits of lithium. Pentagon officials said that their initial analysis at one location in Ghazni Province showed the potential for lithium deposits as large of those of Bolivia, which now has the worlds largest known lithium reserves.
For the geologists who are now scouring some of the most remote stretches of Afghanistan to complete the technical studies necessary before the international bidding process is begun, there is a growing sense that they are in the midst of one of the great discoveries of their careers.
On the ground, its very, very, promising, Mr. Medlin said. Actually, its pretty amazing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?pagewanted=all
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Afghanistan sits on $1 trillion mineral motherlode
United States officials say a survey has uncovered at least $US1 trillion in mineral deposits in Afghanistan, but there are doubts as to how the war-torn and graft-prone country can manage the windfall.
A Pentagon spokesman says the study by US geologists found that Afghanistan had reserves of valuable minerals on a much larger scale than previously believed.
The value of the minerals - including lithium, iron, gold, niobium and cobalt - is estimated at nearly $US1 trillion, according to the study.
US Colonel Dave Lapan says that is a conservative estimate.
"There's also an indication that even the trillion dollar figure underestimates what the true potential might be," he said.
Afghan president Hamid Karzai said in January that the deposits could help the impoverished nation become one of the richest in the world, based on preliminary findings of the United States Geological Survey.
In the past few months, US officials have briefed Afghan leaders on the final results of the study, which followed an initial assessment by geologists in 2007.
Colonel Lapan says the studies were part of a US government effort designed to assist Afghanistan build up viable industries, and advisers were working with the Kabul government to attract "world-class" mining companies.
He says US officials were "helping the Afghans to learn how to ... understand what they have".
The Afghan ministry of mines says the mineral wealth offers great promise.
"The natural resources of Afghanistan will play a magnificent role in Afghanistan's economic growth," Jawad Omar, spokesman for the country's ministry of mines and industries, said.
The study found Afghanistan's potential lithium deposits are as large of those of Bolivia, which currently has the world's largest known reserves of the lightweight metal, used to make batteries for mobile phones and laptops.
Afghanistan has so much of the coveted metal that it could become the "Saudi Arabia of lithium" according to a Pentagon document, quoted by the New York Times.
US officials say the country's iron and copper deposits are also large enough to make Afghanistan one of the world's top producers.
Little of the minerals have been exploited because the country has been mired in conflict for 30 years, and is today embroiled in a Taliban-led insurgency.
The country would have to find a way of bringing the minerals to markets, but its infrastructure is rudimentary, with only one national highway connecting north to south and its ramshackle roads often targeted by Taliban bombs.
China and India have bid for contracts to develop Afghan mines, with the Chinese winning a huge copper contract. An iron-ore contract is due to be awarded later this year.
Afghanistan sits on $1 trillion mineral motherlode - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
United States officials say a survey has uncovered at least $US1 trillion in mineral deposits in Afghanistan, but there are doubts as to how the war-torn and graft-prone country can manage the windfall.
A Pentagon spokesman says the study by US geologists found that Afghanistan had reserves of valuable minerals on a much larger scale than previously believed.
The value of the minerals - including lithium, iron, gold, niobium and cobalt - is estimated at nearly $US1 trillion, according to the study.
US Colonel Dave Lapan says that is a conservative estimate.
"There's also an indication that even the trillion dollar figure underestimates what the true potential might be," he said.
Afghan president Hamid Karzai said in January that the deposits could help the impoverished nation become one of the richest in the world, based on preliminary findings of the United States Geological Survey.
In the past few months, US officials have briefed Afghan leaders on the final results of the study, which followed an initial assessment by geologists in 2007.
Colonel Lapan says the studies were part of a US government effort designed to assist Afghanistan build up viable industries, and advisers were working with the Kabul government to attract "world-class" mining companies.
He says US officials were "helping the Afghans to learn how to ... understand what they have".
The Afghan ministry of mines says the mineral wealth offers great promise.
"The natural resources of Afghanistan will play a magnificent role in Afghanistan's economic growth," Jawad Omar, spokesman for the country's ministry of mines and industries, said.
The study found Afghanistan's potential lithium deposits are as large of those of Bolivia, which currently has the world's largest known reserves of the lightweight metal, used to make batteries for mobile phones and laptops.
Afghanistan has so much of the coveted metal that it could become the "Saudi Arabia of lithium" according to a Pentagon document, quoted by the New York Times.
US officials say the country's iron and copper deposits are also large enough to make Afghanistan one of the world's top producers.
Little of the minerals have been exploited because the country has been mired in conflict for 30 years, and is today embroiled in a Taliban-led insurgency.
The country would have to find a way of bringing the minerals to markets, but its infrastructure is rudimentary, with only one national highway connecting north to south and its ramshackle roads often targeted by Taliban bombs.
China and India have bid for contracts to develop Afghan mines, with the Chinese winning a huge copper contract. An iron-ore contract is due to be awarded later this year.
Afghanistan sits on $1 trillion mineral motherlode - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Hard maybe, but definitely possible.
India is a 1,2 billion population nation! compare with the whole Muslim world if you want, and see for yourself.
And we are not even talking about the untapped natural resources yet from Morocco to Indonesia and Malaysia, and do not forget that Africa where there are many Muslim countries is the richest continent in natural resources in the world.
To give you an Idea, even "small" economies of the north African Muslim countries like Morocco are starting to produce solar hydrogen for their own electricity needs and will be able in the very near future of exporting it.
So the future is very bright for the Muslim Ummah's economy.
The Muslim Ummah will prevail.
muslim ummah wont prevail unless it stops being muslim and becomes liberal and secular and inclusive.
it wont take too long for us /china to grab all the resources like they are doing in iraq, kuwait, saudi and soon iran.
muslims have failed big time to develop their human resource and the quality of their HR is too poor to be successful
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You do not seem to understand that Muslims are Liberals, secularists and inclusive, the only problem with opposing people like you is that we are exclusive by our bound to the limits set by Islam, which we find the most ethical and advanced limits on a human social scale, economically speaking, we are committed to honesty which is opposed to fraudulent behaviours and schemes like the Indian and western ones going on all over the globe.
Reread post #67 and see why we will prevail against all odds.
The Muslim Ummah will prevail.
Reread post #67 and see why we will prevail against all odds.
The Muslim Ummah will prevail.
muslims in todays world who say islam is above all religions are not liberal or secular or incluseive. If you say that Islam cannot have a non muslim ruler then you are NOT secular. if you say ahmadis cannot be called muslim then you are not Liberal and if you have separate electorate for muslim and no muslim then you are not inclusive. these qualities are true when you apply the principles to people not based on religion.
Fraud is there everywhere. you are being silly when you compare ISlam and say that fraud happens in india and west. fraud happens in pak and arabia too. is islam fraudulent?
The muslim ummah will never happen and was never there.
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Muslim Ummah is the collection of Muslim communities of the world. It is already here by definition. What may not happen is all Muslims in a single state or all Muslim majority states in some kind of union of nation states. Even if a union may remain a pipe dream, empowering Muslims of the world where ever they may reside and increasing the feeling of unity among 1.6 billion Muslims, reducing divisions and infighting - these are all good for the collective Muslim community or the Ummah and should be worthy goal of all Muslims. In fact Muslim unity can be used as a positive geopolitical tool (useful for building alliances of nations states or regional unions) for all Muslims, regardless of their place of residence.
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India has the world's largest illiterate population, by far.
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You Can't do Sh!t against Us If We Decide to against You!
No Muslim Country can reach our Land Except Bordering Ones While We can Bomb any Muslim Country with Our Aircraft Carriers (2nd Largest Fleet of Aircraft Carriers after US in the World) and SSBNs.
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