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Unexpected invite: PM ‘likely’ to attend Modi’s oath-taking

I agree. It and the subsequent attack on the Indian consulate exposed the reality within Pakistan once again. Whether Nawaz Sharif attends it or not, either way it's advantage Modi.
I think India should act in a manner that strengthens the civilian govt of Pakistan.
That means nice sounding words, etc, etc.

Its Pakistan Army that needs to be put in its constitutional role if there is to be genuine peace between India and Pakistan. The only way to do that is the strengthen the Govt of Pakistan.
 
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I agree. It and the subsequent attack on the Indian consulate exposed the reality within Pakistan once again. Whether Nawaz Sharif attends it or not, either way it's advantage Modi.

we are stuck with the democratic - diplomatic process of engagement with the civilian government - the engagement with Musharraf was different - but was legitimate because he was at the helm of affairs.

India should really think of opening up back channel negotiations with the military and completely ignore the Nawaz regime - Nawaz just wants to piggy back on indo - pak negotiations to draw out some concessions to improve his rankings inside Pakistan, which is counter productive to us.

It's true that he is engaged in a tussle with the military to gain a stand within Pakistan, but we shouldn't waste our time by giving a shoulder for it. The previous PPP regime was also with similar interests and almost pleading with India or with the US to help them (the civilian govt) to gain a upper hand over the military behemoth, Nawaz also intends to project the same needs, but it's not our duty to strengthen civilian regimes in Pakistan by losing our strategic interests.

It clearly underlines the reality of any civilian regime in Pakistan - and as you rightly said - we should talk to them after a few terms when they actually have a handle over affairs inside Pakistan.

I think India should act in a manner that strengthens the civilian govt of Pakistan.
That means nice sounding words, etc, etc.

Its Pakistan Army that needs to be put in its constitutional role if there is to be genuine peace between India and Pakistan. The only way to do that is the strengthen the Govt of Pakistan.

The only thing that the civilian govt is capable of is accept benefits - they don't have a handle on taking care of India's concerns - they couldn't even sign the MFN when the army refused. We should just leave them to their fates and not bother with engagements with puppets and waste our time.
 
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It is a master stroke by this man, he has put sharif in a dilemma. If he attends he gets a wack from anti-modi population and if he doesn't his intent is questioned.

Narendra Modi used this as a chance for find out the problem in foreign policy and also to find out the trouble makers.I like this move.Except Pakistan all others agree with us.

Kind of ridiculous that Nawaz cannot even take a decision on his own. How does he expect to GOI to take him seriously and engage with him and his government in any talks?.

Any discussions with Nawaz sharif will be a waste of time, he is just a puppet when it comes to Indian policy.

Our PM moves for inviting SAARC leaders is also a test for our neighbours.Now if Nawaz dont come Narendra Modi dont engage him with seriously after that.Modi knows the limitation of a puppet PM.
 
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If he comes then all leaders from SAARC would be present ( barring BD)....media will start blabbering about regional superpower stuff......he should rather come a week after the oath taking ceremony....that would strike a balance between bowing down and looking for co-operation
 
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You guys make it sound as if we're asking you to put animal flesh in your mouth. :P

PDF = The only forum on the net where meat eaters claim to have higher moral ground :D

You should change your eating habit and reduce the consumption of Mirchi. :cool:
 
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By Invitation Only: Proxy Patriotism
India vs. Pakistan
by FARZANA VERSEY
Prime Minister-elect Narendra Modi’s team did not need to work at this one. Sixty-seven years after the Partition, India continues to nurse the inherited insecurity garbed as braggadocio in its relationship with Pakistan. Every government has effectively used it to whip up emotion and, worse, conflate hostility towards our neighbour with patriotism. This has produced a bunch of nationalistic fanatics, irrespective of their political ideology.
What helps them is a fairly large number of the Pakistani elite that gets excited each time they hear the word democracy. It does not matter that the controversy under discussion at the moment is what a sophomore would consider the equivalent of a ‘will the person I ask for a dance at a debutante ball agree?’ Is there fear of rejection? Or is it pugnacity associated with seizing the moment, a term that is used by analysts? “Seize, seize, seize,” the anchor declaims, as the panelists discuss whether Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif would and should attend the swearing-in ceremony of Mr. Modi on Monday, May 26. As I write this, there is still breathless anticipation.
This is not an offer for a dialogue, nor is it war. A mature government would deal with it as the casual and courteous gesture it is. The invitation has gone out to all leaders of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) countries. While Bhutan, Maldives, Nepal may for now be considered ‘safe’, although Indian Mujahideen operatives were in recent times captured while ambling along the Nepal border, there are issues with others.
Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalaithaa has expressed concern about the invitation to Mahinda Rajapaksa because of the genocide of Tamils. She said in a statement: “…even before the new prime minister and the new government assume office and begin functioning, this unfortunate move of inviting the Sri Lankan President has deeply upset the people of Tamil Nadu and wounded their sentiments all over again. This is tantamount to rubbing salt into the wounds of the already deeply injured Tamil psyche.”
The BJP had earlier also expressed reservations and tough action against what it considers illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, and its open welcome to “persecuted Hindus”. There is the perceived Taliban threat from Afghanistan. None of these have come up for debate. Why is Pakistan singled out?
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In what can only be described as a master move, prior to the invitation to Mr. Sharif and on the day Mr. Modi staked his claim to office, a newspaper carried a report with the headline ‘Scared of Narendra Modi, Dawood Ibrahim, gang members go in hiding’: “With Narendra Modi all set to become the prime minister, India’s most-wanted don, Dawood Ibrahim, has relocated himself to an unknown location close to the Af-Pak border, which is under the Taliban. His base has been in Karachi.” An intelligence officer said, “With Modi coming to power, he is mortally afraid.”
Dawood is on the most-wanted list internationally, and during the period he has continued with his operations, yet there have been no sightings of him. He runs a vast empire across the globe, including in India, and it cannot be done with the help of henchmen alone. It need not be emphasised that the underworld has enjoyed political and police patronage.
The ease with which the dons conduct their operations should make it clear that being “mortally afraid” is not in their DNA. It is surprising that the media writes such stories because they are in touch with the underworld members, and aware about how nonchalant they are. Three years ago, a reporter was shot dead due to his contact with Dawood’s rival Chhota Rajan.
This rivalry forms part of how the patriotic ethos is formulated. Both of them were partners. Following the March 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai, Rajan announced that he was leaving the D-Company because as a Hindu it hurt his sentiments. It was said that these blasts were carried out as revenge for the riots following the demolition of the Babri Masjid in which many Muslims were killed. The term ‘action-reaction’ had not gained political legitimacy then. Rajan became a desh-bhakt (patriot) by default. In 2000, during a shootout in Bangkok, where he had moved to, he was seriously injured. It was not the police that kept tabs on him, but politicians, including the Home Ministry. This was during the NDA regime, the BJP’s coalition government. This report provides a vivid picture: “The following evening, 3,004 km from Bangkok the issue crops up again at a dinner meeting on Friday at Matoshri in Bandra, suburban Mumbai, between Shiv Sena chief Bal Thackeray and Union Law Minister Arun Jaitley.”
The Dawood news now is, therefore, not innocent and cannot be delinked with Indo-Pak dynamics. The Shiv Sena has won by a huge margin in Mumbai during these elections. And, although Arun Jaitley lost in his Amritsar constituency, he is being tipped to be the next Finance Minister.
Raking up the past Home Minister’s media brief to bring Dawood back, India Today does the job of propping up the new man: “PM-elect Narendra Modi had said the issue was not a matter to be discussed openly. ‘Did the US hold a press conference before carrying out the Abbottabad raid?’ he had said referring to the killing of Osama bin Laden by the US forces.”
The media seems to know more than Intel agencies. Osama was in Abbottabad within the line of vision of the Pakistani army, and was assisted by sources within. Some of these sources helped the Navy Seals operation.
If the new PM plans to do an America, it will not be too difficult. The ‘escape’ story is in tandem with the Osama not traceable one. The hunt is ostensibly predatory, but primarily it boosts the ego. The D-Company, known for their love of all things glitzy and debauched, seeking cover in Taliban territory is the stuff that would work well as patriotic parody in the time of fundamentalism.
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Public perception is dictated by the pantomime performed by the leaders. They are still reliving the Partition.
Major General G.D.Bakshi on Times Now channel said that should Nawaz Sharif accept the invitation, it would not go down well with the army and the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), who would then organise terrorist strikes in some region of India, other than Delhi.
Such ‘preemptive strikes’ assist in jingoism, and might encourage forces within to create a situation knowing well that a foreign hand would be held responsible. Titillation is dangerous. The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has been talking about “zero tolerance towards terrorism”. Is this to be the only agenda?
Nawaz Sharif and Narendra Modi both share a love for capitalists, and nice roads. However, the latter also has some similarities with the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) leader Imran Khan, who believes that the Taliban is crucial to his politics. Modi is beholden, and in many ways answerable, to the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), an extremist organisation that is not answerable to anybody but whose ‘army’ was deployed to assist the BJP in the elections. It is no secret that Modi would not have moved without the RSS go-ahead, which he did get: “The Sangh likened it to Hindu sanskriti wherein even a neighbour with whom one has bad relations is invited to a wedding at home. ‘We might have sour relations with our neighbour but we would still invite them to a wedding at home. This is our culture,’ a BJP source said, adding that it was up to Pakistan whether to honour the invite or not.”
Pakistan for its part has Hafiz Saeed making TV appearances in Pakistan to talk about Indo-Pak relationship. He is supposedly the mastermind behind the 2008 blasts in Mumbai that killed 166 people, and for which Ajmal Kasab was hanged. At the time, Kasab has mentioned how he was brainwashed with images from the Gujarat riots.
Former Pakistan high commissioner to Delhi, Aziz Ahmed Khan, gives a similar reason for the chariness over the invitation: “On the one hand it’s a good gesture that should be taken as a sign of peacemaking by Modi, but at the same time the baggage that he carries makes it very difficult for the government. There is a widespread belief in Pakistan that he was behind the massacres in Gujarat.”
The situation has become so touchy that any Pakistani bringing this up is looked upon with distrust. In a juvenile reaction, some Indian Muslims have taken umbrage over “interference”, while we hold forth on everything from Balochistan to Waziristan. This is precisely what the rightwing wants – pariah patriots who owe fealty simply by pointing out another’s warts.
A hawk policy towards a neighbour you’ve fought four wars with in over six decades is perhaps pragmatic, though to see every gesture as symbolic belies a fear of the unknown. It is not Pakistan, but India that looks unprepared and confused waiting for the ‘enemy’ to legitimise it with his presence.
Peace by any means sounds suspiciously like war by any means.

Farzana Versey is a Mumbai-based writer. She can be reached at Cross Connections
 
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Pakistan is not like nepal , Maldives or Bangladesh who lives under indian umbrella...Pm should be very careful , if he want some peace dialogues then go on, and if he is going just to attend petty ceremony then no need to go..send someone from foreign office...
 
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Modi is a mass murderer, a Hindu extremist terrorist with blood of thousands of innocent Muslims on his hands. Pakistan should not attend his oath taking ceremony. He will more troubles for Muslims of India and will be a pain in our hinny.


You should have mentioned this in invitation.

No - He must go there to make point that despite provocative statements from BJP during election campaign and as opposition party - Pakistan still will work with her IF they are interested in peace and resolving disputes peacfully, otherwise India will try to project it as new Indian government gave message of peace but it's Pakistan who showed hostility.
 
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A well-informed high-ranking government official, however, disclosed that the Foreign Office would recommend the prime minister accept the invitation. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

ISLAMABAD:
Barring any last-minute changes, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is likely to travel to New Delhi next week to attend the swearing-in ceremony of India’s Prime Minister-designate Narendra Modi, The Express Tribune has learnt. In an unprecedented move, India invited leaders of all South Asian countries including Premier Nawaz to Modi’s oath-taking ceremony scheduled for May 26.


Foreign Office spokesperson Tasnim Aslam confirmed to The Express Tribune that Pakistan has received the formal invitation. She added that it hasn’t been decided yet whether the premier would attend the ceremony or not.

A well-informed high-ranking government official, however, disclosed that the Foreign Office would recommend the prime minister accept the invitation.

“This is a rare moment and will be a huge game changer. We should not let this opportunity go. Opportunities if viscerally squandered do not arise again easily and quickly. This is the moment to show vision and leadership,” said the official requesting anonymity.

The official added that the newly elected Indian prime minister ‘means business’ and his invitation was not a formality but a serious move to improve ties between the two countries. “We should respect India’s democratic verdict. Clinging to past will take us nowhere in the future,” the official argued. “It’s the first time a Pakistani prime minister has been invited to the oath taking of an Indian prime minister.”

The rare move on the part of the incoming Indian premier appears to dismiss speculations that relations between the two neighbours could deteriorate due to the victory of the hard-line Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in the marathon parliamentary polls. The decision is also seen as significant, considering the tough language used by Modi against Pakistan during his election campaign.

Islamabad has already made it clear that it is ready to work with whoever forms the next government in India. Nawaz was one of the first leaders to telephone Modi and congratulate him on his party’s impressive election victory.

Given Nawaz’s policy of a peaceful neighbourhood, the official disclosed that he would not be surprised if the prime minister accepts Modi’s invitation. “The final decision will be taken after consultations with all stakeholders,” he said, referring to the country’s security establishment, which always has a say on such matters.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai already confirmed to attend the ceremony.

Despite Modi’s controversial political history, international leaders are now rushing to congratulate him.

China has already done so and US President Barack Obama, with whom Modi and his party have a frosty relationship, has spoken to India’s PM-elect on the phone.

The swearing-in ceremony, to be held at the forecourt of the historic Rashtrapati Bhavan, is likely to be attended by as many as 3,000 guests. Modi will be sworn in as the 15th Prime Minister of India by President Pranab Mukherjee.

Published in The Express Tribune, May 22nd, 2014.

Unexpected invite: PM ‘likely’ to attend Modi’s oath-taking – The Express Tribune


Mr Sharif is a very mature politician. He is capable of taking wise decision.

india and pakistan both would need to wait for another 5-10 years to get proper leaders


We believe that our search of Proper leader is over. We have got somebody who is best. I can not fore see any one better than him not only from India but from whole world.
 
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Thanks for your kind words. But after Mr. Modi has taken oath if you used any derogatory words against him I'll use similar for your leaders not just present but past ones also.

Modi is a mass murderer, a Hindu extremist terrorist with blood of thousands of innocent Muslims on his hands. Pakistan should not attend his oath taking ceremony. He will more troubles for Muslims of India and will be a pain in our hinny.
 
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Modi is a mass murderer, a Hindu extremist terrorist with blood of thousands of innocent Muslims on his hands. Pakistan should not attend his oath taking ceremony. He will more troubles for Muslims of India and will be a pain in our hinny.
PROVE IT or SHUT UP. Supreme Court of India has Acquitted him. And our SC is 1000 times stronger and credible than urs. FACT.
 
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Thanks for your kind words. But after Mr. Modi has taken oath if you used any derogatory words against him I'll use similar for your leaders not just present but past ones also.


Hi Bro @Reviewer21 , No need to enter into idiocy competition with Idiots. Let that remain reserved for them.
 
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