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UN chief urges Syria cease-fire but Russia and China oppose
By Edith M. Lederer | AP
Feb. 29, 2020 at 10:37 a.m. GMT+8

UNITED NATIONS — Secretary-General Antonio Guterres again called for an immediate cease-fire in northwestern Syria Friday “before the situation gets entirely out of control,” and 13 of the 15 nations on the U.N. Security Council supported his appeal at an emergency meeting — but not Syria’s closest ally Russia and China.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6de5be-5a9c-11ea-8efd-0f904bdd8057_story.html
 
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UNITED NATIONS, Feb. 27 (Xinhua) -- A Chinese envoy on Thursday said China attaches great importance to the humanitarian situation in Syria.Wu Haitao, China's deputy permanent representative to the UN, said at a Security Council meeting.

"China firmly supports the legitimate government of Syria and upholds its sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity, which is also conducive to peace and stability in the Middle East," he said.

Wu added that China has played a constructive role throughout the Security Council's discussions on the humanitarian issue in Syria.

Stressing that each country has the right to express its own views and suggestions on specific issues and decide on its own voting position on the basis of its own principles and positions, Wu said China opposes the abuse of the Security Council platform to make groundless accusations against other countries.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/28/c_138825222.htm
 
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Assad is going down
Long live Turkey
Syria government troops are winning on every front and is almost ready to finish years long civil war once and for all and bring long lost peace to Syria, defeated rebels want to take a break and win some time to recover, Syrian government surely won't give them the break.

With powerful Russia and China's military and economic backing, Syrian government will completely defeat the rebels in no time.

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Is UN trying to save HTS?
UN chief urges Syria cease-fire but Russia and China oppose
By Edith M. Lederer | AP
Feb. 29, 2020 at 10:37 a.m. GMT+8

UNITED NATIONS — Secretary-General Antonio Guterres again called for an immediate cease-fire in northwestern Syria Friday “before the situation gets entirely out of control,” and 13 of the 15 nations on the U.N. Security Council supported his appeal at an emergency meeting — but not Syria’s closest ally Russia and China.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6de5be-5a9c-11ea-8efd-0f904bdd8057_story.html
 
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China should stay away from muslims issues as china itself is not treating muslims well and all this can add to that.
It is also stupid to believe that handing over all of syria to asad will bring peace. He killed hundred of thousands of his citizens and people wont forget, there can hardly be peace under asad. At most it would be calm and flare up after sometime.
The only solution to syria and iraq is division of land based on sectarian affilliations. We all know its sunni vs shia/alawite/zaidi from syria to iraq leabanon and yemen. So accept the fault lines and divide these countries so they can live peacefully.
 
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China should stay away from muslims issues as china itself is not treating muslims well and all this can add to that.
Who says it's a Muslim issue? China is a permanent member of UNSC and has to have her stance. China has friendly relations with all Muslim countries, every single of them, I won't say the same about relations between Muslim countries themselves. I m pretty sure that China has way more friendly nations from the Muslim world than Turkey does.
 
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China should stay away from muslims issues as china itself is not treating muslims well and all this can add to that.
It is also stupid to believe that handing over all of syria to asad will bring peace. He killed hundred of thousands of his citizens and people wont forget, there can hardly be peace under asad. At most it would be calm and flare up after sometime.
The only solution to syria and iraq is division of land based on sectarian affilliations. We all know its sunni vs shia/alawite/zaidi from syria to iraq leabanon and yemen. So accept the fault lines and divide these countries so they can live peacefully.
You come her and say CHina should stay away from muslims...then why is your Islamic country PROUDLY saying China is its best friend?? BRO! stop contradicting yourself!
 
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Who says it's a Muslim issue? China is a permanent member of UNSC and has to have her stance. China has friendly relations with all Muslim countries, every single of them, I won't say the same about relations between Muslim countries themselves. I m pretty sure that China has way more friendly nations from the Muslim world than Turkey does.
You come her and say CHina should stay away from muslims...then why is your Islamic country PROUDLY saying China is its best friend?? BRO! stop contradicting yourself!

If u cant comprehend what i said, then u lack the ability to understand the point anyway.

Who says it's a Muslim issue? China is a permanent member of UNSC and has to have her stance. China has friendly relations with all Muslim countries, every single of them, I won't say the same about relations between Muslim countries themselves. I m pretty sure that China has way more friendly nations from the Muslim world than Turkey does.

You are right to some extent and if china wants to continue the good relations with "all" muslims, it should avoid taking sides in an issue between two muslim groups. Once u side with one party, ull suddenly lose support of a section of society in every muslim country.
I also dnt agree with ur view of china having that good relations with muslim world. The far east, malaysia, Brunei etc dnt like china n have SCS issues, middle east relations just improving, mostly business, they are staunch american allies. Central asian countries also dnt like china and are mostly turkic. The only good relations china have in muslims is with Pakistan and maybe some african countries. So its not smart to take sides between Turkey and syrian/iranians.
 
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I also dnt agree with ur view of china having that good relations with muslim world. The far east, malaysia, Brunei etc dnt like china n have SCS issues, middle east relations just improving, mostly business, they are staunch american allies. Central asian countries also dnt like china and are mostly turkic. The only good relations china have in muslims is with Pakistan and maybe some african countries. So its not smart to take sides between Turkey and syrian/iranians.
China has very good relationship with Malaysia and Brunei along with Arab Gulf countries, countris like KSA are indeed US allies but it doesn't mean they can't be very good friends of China's as well, Pakistan used to be a close US ally but still maintained good relations with China, all central Asian countries enjoy extremely cordial friendship with CHina, and they are all part of SCO.

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I see only Pakistan supports Turkey unconditionally, that shows how isolated Turkey is in the international community. Speaking of Turkic countries, after Turkey shot down a Russia jet, all central Asian countries threw their solid support behind Russia against Turkey, so if Russia really goes to war with Turkey, which side would you bet those "Turkic countries" will side with?
 
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China has very good relationship with Malaysia and Brunei along with Arab Gulf countries, countris like KSA are indeed US allies but it doesn't mean they can't be very good friends of China's as well, Pakistan used to be a close US ally but still maintained good relations with China, all central Asian countries enjoy extremely cordial friendship with CHina, and they are all part of SCO.

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I see only Pakistan supports Turkey unconditionally, that shows how isolated Turkey is in the international community. Speaking of Turkic countries, after Turkey shot down a Russia jet, all central Asian countries threw their solid support behind Russia against Turkey, so if Russia really goes to war with Turkey, which side would you bet those "Turkic countries" will side with?

By ur logic, if US and china fight, where will middle east stand? Pakistan have always been much closer to china than US, everyone knows this, same as middle east, far east countries are more closer to US. The US have also launched india against china. Couple that with uighur issue, id say china needs to work on its relations with muslim world. Brunei, malaysia have claims in SCS, so its just facial relations, we all know it. Central asian govts might stand with russia but ppl love Turkey, same as govt of Pakistan being staunch ally of saudi but ppl overwhelmingly love Turkey. There is a big history and if u read it, ull have an idea why Turkey have huge soft power among muslims. Egypt govt is anti Turkey but its ppl love Turkey and we saw how Turkey was close to egypt during muslim brotherhood govt. Having good relations with Turkey will enhance chinese image in those muslims that have love n respect for Turks.
 
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By ur logic, if US and china fight, where will middle east stand? Pakistan have always been much closer to china than US, everyone knows this, same as middle east, far east countries are more closer to US. The US have also launched india against china. Couple that with uighur issue, id say china needs to work on its relations with muslim world. Brunei, malaysia have claims in SCS, so its just facial relations, we all know it. Central asian govts might stand with russia but ppl love Turkey, same as govt of Pakistan being staunch ally of saudi but ppl overwhelmingly love Turkey. There is a big history and if u read it, ull have an idea why Turkey have huge soft power among muslims. Egypt govt is anti Turkey but its ppl love Turkey and we saw how Turkey was close to egypt during muslim brotherhood govt. Having good relations with Turkey will enhance chinese image in those muslims that have love n respect for Turks.
You can say the government don't represent the people, that could be true, could be not, many claim that most Chinese people are against the Chinese government, that's not true. But as for foreign policies, all countries only care about which side the governments take, not the people,besides, I don't see many Arab posters here in PDF talk nicely about Turkey either. Turkey has very few friends in the international community, that's a hard fact, Turkey is loved in PDF doesn't mean it's loved in the world. We have more friendly Muslim countries than Turkey can ever dream of, that's also a fact, we both know it.

We know almost all Pakistani people will side with Turkey if there's a dispute or conflict between China and Turkey, but did Pakistani government join Turkey to condemn China? No. and that's enough for China, we never expected more.
 
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Turkey is now fulfilling it's destiny as the "trigger" to the coming Malhama. And Turkey is standing on the side of zionist-kafirs. Whether it does this knowingly or unknowingly, isn't of any consequence anymore. Most of the Middle East is blinded by the "Sunni-Shia Divide". While others are pursuing their own agendas, walking into the "Black Hole of Destruction".

Turkey still has the chance to walk away from this ridiculously absurd mistake, if it partners up with Russia and Iran to resolve the Syrian conflict, peacefully. By disarming the terrorists, or by joining Russia to eliminate these terrorists. Only then will Turkey see how zionist-kafirs (america, britain and france) will retaliate against Russia, Turkey and Iran.

Turkey may not know this, but zionist-kafirs are using Turkey as a pawn, a sacrificial lamb, to start a war with Russia. Turkey is walking into a trap, set by the zionist-kafirs. The same way the ottomans fell into the trap over a hundred years ago, by going to war with Russia. And Russia ought to know this, that they (britain & france) were not your allies back then, nor are they going to show any mercy, now. Because britain and france are zionist-kafir controlled states.

At the present time, it seems clear that Turkey is hurtling toward an open war with Syria. As this unfolds, Iran will directly confront Turkey. This will, in effect become a two front war for Turkey. And this will ravage Turkey to the point of no return. The losses that Turkey will suffer, will go unanswered by NATO. And that's when desperation will take shape in Turkey, which would lead to Turkey taking rash decisions, which cost it dearly.

Turkey must understand, that using Islam as a basis to legitimize your ear on Syria, will see you punished by Allah, with a terrible end. The same terrible end which the saudi, qatari, emirati regimes are marked for! Turkey should also understand that Muslim countries would only support Turkey, if Turkey were to be in a fighting war against israel. When it comes to Turkey vs Syria, Turkey's chances of gaining Muslim countries support, are next to nothing.

If Turkey had played ball with the Russians, and eliminated all terrorists from Northern Syria. Turkey would've seen Syria eliminate and lock down all kurdish terrorists. Syria would've been glad to do so, since Kurds are supported directly by israel. And today millions of Syrians would've returned to their country, swiftly.

Sadly, today turkey has sealed it's date and there is chance of any Muslim country which would ever support it against Syria. Regardless of Assad's crimes, it will not buy Turkey any support. So Turkey has splash around all it wants, it is only going to get worse for it. Turkey may see a few minor victories, but in the end, it will suffer a heavy defeat from which it would not ever be able to recover.
 
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