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Ukraine says Malaysian airliner shot down, 295 dead: agency

Good or bad, all Westerners definition, we know that the result can only be screened after being them,
Maybe like MH370 same, so far without result.
There was the media said that the U.S. and Thai military exercises, MH370 was shot down
 
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Russians are arming the separatists who've got these SAMs capable of taking out the airline but no multi-layered, integrated air defense system to go with it. They probably don't even have a functioning radar.
Russians are helping the locals defend themselves against the neo-nazi onslaught.
The Buk system that the rebels have is the one they got from Ukies, not from Russia. But it still has to be seen if that's the system which has been used. At this moment it seems highly unlikely. As They don't have the radar coverage and trained personnel to operate this system.
On the other hand the downing of this plane will help the Ukie cause immensely, especially since the establishment media is only going to parrot the Kiev propaganda.
So if we were to go by circumstantial evidence it is clear that the only party that benefits is the Ukies. But like I said in my previous post it's too early to call, and we shall have more clearer picture in the next couple of days.
 
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I've been reading and reading.............so who did it? o_O

R.I.P......
 
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Nothing wrong with the airline.
Can you name a single airliner which can dodge sophisticated SAMs like Buk?

This is just the perfect example of being in wrong place at the wrong time.

Can you name a airline whose airplane with 250+ people just ''dissapears'' ?

Malaysia airlines should be dissolved out of respect for the victims, or continue their work under a totally different name,logo etc
 
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Damn, this is sick!! What the F is wrong with these people, they shot down a civilian airplane? Why?? What was the fault of those who were in the flight?

Looks like Malaysian airlines is jinxed. Till now I would have been scared flying in it over sea, but now even over land!!

RIP, the deceased souls!!
The NATO should bomb the pro Russian rebel positions at once ! we want justice .
 
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French biggest newspaper Le Monde say the aircraft was shot down and this is act of war. French always spoil the show for USA corporate media.

Google translate.

According to this expert, the aircraft could not be shot by mistake impossible to confuse a civilian jet and a fighter plane. Indeed, each aircraft shall by a transponder (transmitter), and even the identity of the airline to which it belongs. With this transponder, radar ground stations can identify all the devices through their airspace.

According to the military specialist, to bring down a commercial airliner must have a "system of sophisticated weaponry of anti-air defense." This type of missile battery consists mainly of a radar to detect aircraft, a command post for the target and decide to kill him, and finally a platform to launch missiles to kill him. This specialist specifies that only a powerful missile can reach an airplane in the sky.

Indeed, the cruising altitude of an airliner is between eight and ten kilometers. Too high for arms MANPADS type

The opinion of the military specialist, the implementation of a battery of ground-to-air missile falls more appropriately "regular army" than of "nickel feet" as pro-Russian separatists. It states that such weapons mobilized a dozen soldiers skills sharp.

If the investigation proves, especially after examining the black boxes, the firing of the missile is the result of a "regular army", it can be considered an "act of war", he considers.


Le crash du Boeing de la Malaysia est « un acte forcément volontaire »

D'après cet expert, l'avion n'a pas pu être abattu par erreur : impossible de confondre un jet civil et un avion de chasse. En effet, chaque avion émet, par un transpondeur (un émetteur), son identité et même celle de la compagnie aérienne à laquelle il appartient. Grâce à ce transpondeur, les stations radars au sol peuvent identifier tous les appareils qui traversent leur espace aérien.

Selon le spécialiste militaire, pour abattre un avion de ligne il faut disposer d'un « système d'armement sophistiqué de défense anti-aérienne ». Ce type de batterie de missiles se compose principalement d'un radar pour repérer l'avion, d'un poste de commandement pour le cibler et décider de l'abattre, et enfin d'une plateforme de lancement de missiles pour l'abattre. Ce spécialiste précise que seul un puissant missile peut atteindre un avion en plein ciel.

En effet, l'altitude de croisière d'un avion de ligne se situe entre huit et dix kilomètres. Bien trop haut pour des armements de type manpads,

De l'avis du spécialiste militaire, la mise en œuvre d'une batterie de missile sol-air relève plutôt de la compétence « d'une armée régulière » que de celle de « pieds nickelés » comme les séparatistes prorusses. Il précise que ce type d'armement mobilise une dizaine de soldats au savoir-faire pointu.

Si l'enquête prouve, notamment après l'examen des boîtes noires, que le tir du missile est le fait d'une « armée régulière », il peut être considéré comme un « acte de guerre », juge-t-il.
 
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Let this be a stark warning for other airliners NOT to fly over eastern Ukraine.




They are not terrorists. They are freedom fighters.
If the russian terrorists are freedom fighter then you are a moron !
 
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Indeed. Everyday I wake up to atleast 100 people dead somewhere. What would it take for the world to live and let live for one day!

Maybe its our time to get hit by a meteor as well.

I would disagree with you, man. I mean in those days i.e before 80s there were no communication like today and that's why these deaths though unfortunate are big to us. Of course I do feel pain and nausea thinking about it and Gaza. But think about those days. We would not know for quite some days that some tens of thousand people are dead in Hurricane somewhere, or some where some massacre has happened of some lakhs of people or some earthquake or disease has killed tens of thousands (like Plague)!! So what can one do? Feel the pain, express anger and then move towards next sad news.....:hitwall:
 
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BREAKING:

The number of Britons killed in the Malaysia Airlines crash in eastern Ukraine has reportedly risen to nine.

Including the 15 crew members, this brings the total death toll in the disaster to 298.

Flight MH17 was said by eyewitnesses to have "exploded" after it was reportedly shot down by a ground-to-air missile.

The passenger jet crashed near the village of Grabovo.

Ukrainian officials say they believe all 283 passengers and 15 crew members died in the crash, which has been blamed on separatist rebels.

However, no group has yet admitted responsibility for bringing the plane down.

Those on board included nine British citizens, 154 Dutch passengers, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, four from Germany, four from Belgium, three from the Philippines, and one from Canada.

The rest of the passengers have yet to be identified. All 15 crew members were Malaysian.

@madokafc , @Indos , @JayMandan , @Pinoy , @MarkusS , @Peter C , @gambit , @F-22Raptor
 
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RIP.
But it seems it gave a nice interval for Israel.Till now all the world media was in the tail of Israel with so called human rights.But now they got a complete new subject and Israel start ground operation with little attention from media.

Any way time will tell who is behind this.
 
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