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These pictures are old from the 2005 Russian AID to Pakistan i think. These are not PAF IL 78 and 1st picture (photoshopd)
Ukraine Deliveries 2 Il-78 Midas air-to-air refueling aircraft to PAF!!!
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These pictures are old from the 2005 Russian AID to Pakistan i think. These are not PAF IL 78 and 1st picture (photoshopd)
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You dont worry about the money boss just like other wepons we are getting or will get or want we shall have it if we want it but if anything we are short we can always come to u
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We have modifed some of or mirages to be have that capability read up on it PAF
I have already confirmed that and hence I am no longer arguing on it.
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Pakistan Gets Aerial Refueling
December 9, 2008: Pakistan has received the first two of four Il-78 aerial refueling aircraft from Ukraine. The Il-78 is a modified Russian Il-76 transport. The tanker version can carry 105 tons of fuel. This will give Pakistan its first aerial refueling capability.
Meanwhile, the pioneer in aerial refueling, and largest practitioner, the U.S., is still trying to select a new aerial tanker. The chief competitors are the U.S. made KC-767, which has already been sold to Italy and Japan this year. The KC-767 is based on the Boeing 767-200 airliner, which sells for about $120 million. The 767 has been in service since 1982, and over 800 have been manufactured so far. Boeing developed the KC-767, at a cost of nearly a billion dollars, on its own. Boeing also developed the original KC-135 tanker in the 1950s, and has since built over 2,000 aerial tankers.
The current four engine KC-135 carries 90 tons of fuel and can transfer up to 68 tons.
Consider that a B-52 carries over 140 tons of jet fuel, and an F-15, over five tons. A two engine KC-767 carries about as much fuel as the KC-135. The European firm Airbus, is offering the KC-30, based on the Airbus 330-300, which normally sells for $160 million each. The KC-30 carries 20 percent more fuel than the KC-767, and more cargo pallets (26 versus 19).
The KC-135 has long made itself useful carrying cargo and passengers, as well as fuel, and both the KC-767 and KC-30 have more capacity for this. The KC-767 was developed partly because it is about the same size as the KC-135 (wingspan is 156 feet, ten more than the KC-135). Thus the 767 could use the same basing and repair facilities as the 135. The KC-30 has been sold to Australia, and was briefly selected as the new U.S. tanker (the KC-45A) until lawyers representing the KC-767 intervened and forced a new round of evaluations.
December 9, 2008: Pakistan has received the first two of four Il-78 aerial refueling aircraft from Ukraine. The Il-78 is a modified Russian Il-76 transport. The tanker version can carry 105 tons of fuel. This will give Pakistan its first aerial refueling capability.
Meanwhile, the pioneer in aerial refueling, and largest practitioner, the U.S., is still trying to select a new aerial tanker. The chief competitors are the U.S. made KC-767, which has already been sold to Italy and Japan this year. The KC-767 is based on the Boeing 767-200 airliner, which sells for about $120 million. The 767 has been in service since 1982, and over 800 have been manufactured so far. Boeing developed the KC-767, at a cost of nearly a billion dollars, on its own. Boeing also developed the original KC-135 tanker in the 1950s, and has since built over 2,000 aerial tankers.
The current four engine KC-135 carries 90 tons of fuel and can transfer up to 68 tons.
Consider that a B-52 carries over 140 tons of jet fuel, and an F-15, over five tons. A two engine KC-767 carries about as much fuel as the KC-135. The European firm Airbus, is offering the KC-30, based on the Airbus 330-300, which normally sells for $160 million each. The KC-30 carries 20 percent more fuel than the KC-767, and more cargo pallets (26 versus 19).
The KC-135 has long made itself useful carrying cargo and passengers, as well as fuel, and both the KC-767 and KC-30 have more capacity for this. The KC-767 was developed partly because it is about the same size as the KC-135 (wingspan is 156 feet, ten more than the KC-135). Thus the 767 could use the same basing and repair facilities as the 135. The KC-30 has been sold to Australia, and was briefly selected as the new U.S. tanker (the KC-45A) until lawyers representing the KC-767 intervened and forced a new round of evaluations.
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What I have heard about IL-78 induction from some sources is that since past few months a Ukranian Il-76 was given to PAF for initial training,now that IL-76 is taken back and a Il-78 is given by them(this is not our IL-78 we will return it back).
The first batch of 2 over hauled/refurbished IL-78s will arrive next year and all these reports circulating in the press aren't true.
Its upto you believe it or not!
The first batch of 2 over hauled/refurbished IL-78s will arrive next year and all these reports circulating in the press aren't true.
Its upto you believe it or not!
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i tend to agree with you as there is no reaction from the PAF and so far no confirmation from any of defence related blogs like Jane's etc. having said that DefenceNews is confirming delivery. JDW has confirmed that PAF has completed "static testing" of refuelling on 2 old mirages!!!
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