UK Government issues unprecedented attack on US Secretary of State John Kerry over Israeli remarks

[Hamza913]

Lol So now we are responsible for your issues between Pakistan and India? Lol
Remember that when we gave you people independence you were united under one nation the British Indian empire. The fact that you Muslims majority areas decided to separate (with Punjabis also wanting their own independence) is none of our business. Same with Bengladesh also separating from Pakistan with India's help was none of our business. You people have been free to rule yourselves for decades now and have messed things up. Not our fault.

But it's your fault the borders were not setup properly, leaving us to squabble over Kashmir.

 

[TOPGUN]

Lol So now we are responsible for your issues between Pakistan and India? Lol
Remember that when we gave you people independence you were united under one nation the British Indian empire. The fact that you Muslims majority areas decided to separate (with Punjabis also wanting their own independence) is none of our business. Same with Bengladesh also separating from Pakistan with India's help was none of our business. You people have been free to rule yourselves for decades now and have messed things up. Not our fault.

Your nations great , great grandfathers did a number all over the world shall I start listing the list that goes on and on. Please save it for someone else not me and I never said the fault is now all it takes is a bad start and that start that your mighty British empire did has caused million of issues now that other nations are faced with and paying the price for to date and the funny part is that those so called nations are way better of then UK as we speak. I have nothing personal against the British people or UK in-fact I have family in London and admire and like the British people now but not and never shall be forgotten about the monsters from the British empire. There is a saying my friend before you keep lol... forgive but never forget I end my line here !!

 

[mike2000 is back]

Your nations great , great grandfathers did a number all over the world shall I start listing the list that goes on and on. Please save it for someone else not me and I never said the fault is now all it takes is a bad start and that start that your mighty British empire did has caused million of issues now that other nations are faced with and paying the price for to date and the funny part is that those so called nations are way better of then UK as we speak. I have nothing personal against the British people or UK in-fact I have family in London and admire and like the British people now but not and never shall be forgotten about the monsters from the British empire. There is a saying my friend before you keep lol... forgive but never forget I end my line here !!

Yh blame the British empire for all your ills. We colonised many countries around the globe from Australia, to Canada, to the U.S to Hong Kong to Singapore to South Africa etc etc. India/Pakistan were not the only countries we colonised. Many of the countries we colonised are doing very well, and many have developed into wealthy developed countries with little issues .
So how come they don't blame us for all their ills or well-being?

Blame yourselves and your incompetent leaders for your current condition not some imaginary British empire. Lol

But it's your fault the borders were not setup properly, leaving us to squabble over Kashmir.

Not really. Before we left, you were all under one country British ruled. And we left the country united with a central government, already established law, administrative system etc. It's just that ethnic and religious differences meant people in the country started demanding independence and break up of the country.

Using your logic before we gave you people independence we should have broken up our Indian empire into several different countries according to ethnic/religious lines , Punjabi country, Muslim country,Tamil country, mongoloid/North east country etc etc.
However even if we did that for peace and stability I'm sure that today many of you will be blaming us for playing divide and conquer, and many other conspiracy theories.lol

If you think the current administration is all over the place just wait till the next one .

Would be nice to see the quote from something other than the mail wouldnt be the first time "breaking news" was based on a story from a web site in Moldolvia.

Lets face it Kerry tried for years and was treated like shit by Bibi a month to go and he is using it for a last chance to take the diplomatic gloves off and tell it like it is.

I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in our way. … They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords] … I said I would, but … I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what defined military zones were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned, the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue.

As quoted in "Netanyahu: 'America is a thing you can move very easily'" (16 July 2010)

Nope, I don't think the Trump administration(or any U.S administration for that matter) will be anywhere near incompetent like the Obama administration especially when it comes to foreign policy. Obama has shown a total inability to lead, and has alienated almost every single U.S ally out there.

Trump might make some controversial remarks people don't agree with here and there However , at least with him people and nations know where they stand, and when/if he really believes in something he is far more likely to tabs his ground on that particular topic than Obama.
Obama has been a president who many world leaders don't even respect nor trust, since he has many times made so many foreign policies that are inconsistent in so many levels.
To make things worse he is trying to destroy almost every U.S foreign policy relations with every country, just because he harbours some hatred towards trump. Lol. It's simply childish for the head of state of the world's most powerful country to do such a thing. lol

However domestically, I will say he did a better job .

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

after 1947 we are good wth britain

• We requested a state got state after ww2 promises kept and gentleman's agreement
  

The East Indian company acted independently (Contracting third party) which was cause of much of the distress which went out of business as most contractors do

Anything prior to 1947 , is just way too old of a grudge to keep

After dealing with Hindu Extremist , we realised what a civil , humane negoatiation are all about you guys (British Queen) gave us freedome just by virtue of your word. Also then giving back Hong Kong to China was again a show of mutual respect and diplomacy

Pakistan personally learned

• Human Right vilolation in Kashmire 100% Hindu Extremist created Issue & Indian military
  
• The migration civil war again 100% Hindu Extremist involved, may have been strategic move intentionally by Indian military
• Indian attack on Hyderabad (forceful takeover) , Kashmir etc all Indian Hindu Military

So really no point to beat the bush some prehistoric issue that frankly no one remembers

I thought about it deeply and really Britian is cool, british left the region as promised and Hindu Military decided to take over more then their fair share as they tend to always feel obliged to do

Now if Indian Baniya Gets greedy what can you do ?

Enemy is India (Extremist Hindu Party)

As for the UK attack on US decision not sure what the problem is there , Israel signed a accord in White house witnessed and viewed by whole world to give Palestine a seperate state

 

[Gregor Clegane]

Then why did Israel summon British ambassador.

 

[Louiq XIV]

UK Government issues unprecedented attack on the US after Secretary of State John Kerry branded Israeli regime the 'most right-wing in history'

No 10 says inappropriate of Kerry to attack the make-up of the democratically-elected Israeli government

• Rebukes US Secretary of State for focusing on the single issue of settlements
• Says Kerry's remarks have been unhelpful in the pursuit of two-state solution
• Increasingly bitter row came after Kerry's strongly-worded attack on Israeli government's illegal construction of settlements in the West Bank

The UK Government today launched an unprecedented attack on the US, its closest ally, over John Kerry's condemnation of the Israeli regime as the 'most right-wing in history'.

In a highly critical speech on foreign policy yesterday the US Secretary of State criticised Irsaeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu for undermining the two-state solution with his settlement policy in the West Bank.

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He added: 'The Israeli prime minister publicly supports a two-state solution, but his current coalition is the most right-wing in Israeli history with an agenda driven by the most extreme elements.

I must admit that I totally share Kerry's view about the current Israeli regime. And defence minister Avigdor Liberman looks like a dangerous nationalist.

No progress will be made with those men in power.

 

[dani958]

we should give them state and transfer israeli arabs into palastin what do you think about my idea?

 

[TaimiKhan]

we should give them state and transfer israeli arabs into palastin what do you think about my idea?

And how will you do that when 60% of West Bank is captured by Israel & Israeli settlers and Palestinians have been cut out in separate living area entities just like how Jewish Ghettos in WW-II .

 

[dani958]

And how will you do that when 60% of West Bank is captured by Israel & Israeli settlers and Palestinians have been cut out in separate living area entities just like how Jewish Ghettos in WW-II .

What would you answer if I tell you that the Palestinians would rather be citizens of Israel advanced and they do not want their own country
i sopurt give them country and transfer all arabs of israel to west bank
arabs of israel live very good they dont want they hate israel but want isreal good living

 

[TaimiKhan]

What would you answer if I tell you that the Palestinians would rather be citizens of Israel advanced and they do not want their own country
i sopurt give them country and transfer all arabs of israel to west bank
arabs of israel live very good they dont want they hate israel but want isreal good living

Well you live there, so you know better about the Israeli Arabs, and its common sense when you see the conditions of the palestinians living in West Bank & gaza, then definitely you will think twice or ten times of having same living conditions or better. People of this world have become materialistic.

But i hope one day peace comes to this holy land otherwise i don't see a good future, plus wars in these areas already predicted by your religious textures and ours too.

 

[dani958]

i dont see peace and yes people materialistic thats why people emigrante to usa australia germania and even israel
arab hate us but want to live in israel because its Pays them
We proposed to transfer part of Israel that has a high concentration of Arab future state of Palestine are really opposed to all kinds of various excuses and the main reason is clear

 

[Śakra]

Obama administration has been very much ineffective and indecisive in almost all fronts. He has been a lame duck president in almost all fields. Lol

In his 8 years as President he never learned that his Chicago style Gangsta politics doesn't work at the national or international level. At the end of the day that thug-in-a-suit hurt America more than the helped.

 

[mike2000 is back]

I must admit that I totally share Kerry's view about the current Israeli regime. And defence minister Avigdor Liberman looks like a dangerous nationalist.

No progress will be made with those men in power.

That's not the point, France too has questionable leaders several times before, I'm well placed to say this since I know about Frances fregn policies quite well. However, no European or western country has come publicly to criticise the "French regime" which is by the way is democratically elected and will lose power eventually when their term runs out or when the people decide so just like in Israel which is probably the only real democratic country in the middle East.
Using your logic, I look forward to your leaders criticising publicly the U.S "trump regime"(like you call it. Lol ) as the most right wing in U.S history when they take power. Since some of his policies Can be questionable/offensive as well. . Will love to see that.

 

[Louiq XIV]

That's not the point, France too has questionable leaders several times before, I'm well placed to say this since I know about Frances fregn policies quite well. However, no European or western country has come publicly to criticise the "French regime" which is by the way is democratically elected and will lose power eventually when their term runs out or when the people decide so just like in Israel which is probably the only real democratic country in the middle East.
Using your logic, I look forward to your leaders criticising publicly the U.S "trump regime"(like you call it. Lol ) as the most right wing in U.S history when they take power. Since some of his policies Can be questionable/offensive as well. . Will love to see that.

ANY government on earth can be subject to critics.

Wouldn't have guessed that you were a kind of modern Chamberlain.

Britain really acted like a sissy on this issue.

 

[mike2000 is back]

ANY government on earth can be subject to critics.

Wouldn't have guessed that you were a kind of modern Chamberlain.

Britain really acted like a sissy on this issue.

What are you ranting about?Lol
You didn't address any of the points I made.

Moreover, who said you shouldn't criticise any government? Lol did I say that?
I already said it countless times before on this forum, your opinions and mine doesn't count at all in how our government carry out their foreign policies. So you are free to criticise any government you want on here, I am also free to do the same without any consequences, same with the common man in the street.
However, when it comes to our leaders that's different , since they have to be careful about what they say publicly. So in his case, THERE IS NO DENYING THAT what a democratic U.S foreign secretary said was unacceptable for a foreign leader to criticise the make up of another democratically elected government of another country , irregardless of that democratic country.
If we were to agree with Kerry's remarks , then that will be a dangerous precedent where ever western country might start criticising the other country's government make up which they might not like or agree with. That's a dangerous path.
We really citizens can do that, but government doing so is a different ball game altogether, since the French, American, British government can also be criticised for the same thing by other countries who dont share their views.