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U.S., China Reach Agreement To Stop Commercial Cyber Espionage, President Obama Says

So it is OK to continue Cyber espionage for military and political gains?

Yes. That is always assumed.

So it is OK to continue Cyber espionage for military and political gains?

Yes. That is always assumed.
Get use to the new normal, China ain't backing down neither will NSA stop hacking her friends, foes and competitors.
The fact you guys just can't do anything about it other than telling us to stop proofs our capabilities are top notch :rofl:

President Xi said publicly that they have reached an agreement that there will be no cyber economic espionage among Nations, and they will jointly set up a mechanism to impose sanctions on firms that engage in that kind of stuff.
 
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Hopefully Chinese hackers continue to hack the US and transfer the blueprints and know-how to Chinese companies and Chinese military. Saves time and costs.

China must close the technology gap using all means necessary.

In this world you either have it or you don't. The countries that don't are subject to bullying and the countries that have can dominate.

Power is the only thing that matters.
 
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China needs to be a lot more proactive instead of reactive and allowing the US to set the agenda and define the narrative. Hacking is hacking and to differentiate "commercial hacking for economic gain" just paint oneself into a corner. It is known that US hacks commercial enterprises around the world, from India to Japan, whether it is for economic gain or not is highly arguable, but there are also a lot of commercial espionage conducted by private businesses all around the world. This kind of agreement would put China on the defensive as the government will be held accountable for private practices for it would be impossible to differentiate especially with Chinese SOE. Instead China should have gone on the offensive, calling for no hacking agreement between the two government like what China just signed with Russia, and even promote an establishment of international treaty in defining acceptable conducts in cyberspace. US will quickly back off from that, as it did the past.
 
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China needs to be a lot more proactive instead of reactive and allowing the US to set the agenda and define the narrative. Hacking is hacking and to differentiate "commercial hacking for economic gain" just paint oneself into a corner. It is known that US hacks commercial enterprises around the world, from India to Japan, whether it is for economic gain or not is highly arguable, but there are also a lot of commercial espionage conducted by private businesses all around the world. This kind of agreement would put China on the defensive as the government will be held accountable for private practices for it would be impossible to differentiate especially with Chinese SOE. Instead China should have gone on the offensive, calling for no hacking agreement between the two government like what China just signed with Russia, and even promote an establishment of international treaty in defining acceptable conducts in cyberspace. US will quickly back off from that, as it did the past.

US actively steals technology secrets from many European companies. Especially German.

Instead of talking about American hacking (as revealed by Snowden), Chinese leaders and CCTV News was on the defensive talking about American viewpoint.

CCTV News are run by a bunch of pro-American morons.

I doubt the Chinese leaders even talked about Snowden's revelations. They were probably defending themselves.

The whole point of America creating lies about Chinese hacking and about to introduce sanctions was to distract everyone from Snowden's revelations.

China fell hook, line and sinker into the American trap.
 
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President Obama announced that the U.S. and China have reached a "common understanding" to not conduct or support cyber espionage and intellectual property theft for commercial gain.

"I raised, once again, our rising concerns about growing cyber threats to American companies and American citizens. I indicated that it has to stop," Obama said in a Rose Garden press conference with Chinese President Xi Jinping. "The United States government does not engage in cyber economic espionage for commercial gain."

"We have agreed that neither the U.S. or the Chinese government will conduct or knowingly support cyber-enabled theft of intellectual property, including trade secrets or other confidential business information for commercial advantage," the president added. "We’ll work together and with other nations to promote other rules of the road."

Acknowledging that the U.S. and China are two "major cyber countries," President Xi said "confrontation and friction are not the right choice for both sides."

The agreement marks a major development in U.S.-China relations.Tensions between the U.S. and China have risen over cyber security concerns as both the U.S. government and businesses have faced several damaging hacking attacks over the past year.

"The question now is - are words followed by actions?" President Obama said. "We will be watching carefully to make an assessment as to whether progress has been made in this area."

President Obama said the U.S. is willing to use sanctions and "whatever other tools we have in our tool kit to go after cyber criminals, either retrospectively or prospectively."

The two presidents also discussed China's island building in the disputed territories in the South China Sea, a key trade route for U.S. ships.

"We have the right to uphold our own territorial sovereignty and lawful and legitimate maritime rights and interests," President Xi said. "We are committed to maintaining peace and stability in the South China Sea, managing differences and disputes through dialogue and addressing disputes through negotiation, consultation, and peaceful manner and exploring ways to achieve mutual benefit through cooperation. We're committed to respecting and upholding the freedom of navigation and overflight that countries enjoy according to international law."

"Relevant construction activity that China are undertaking in the islands of South -- Nansha Islands, do not target or impact any country and China does not intend to pursue militarization," he added.

The U.S. has been critical as China has built islands, paved runways and stationed ships in the waters of the South China Sea.

"I reiterated the right of all countries to freedom of navigation and overflight and to unimpeded commerce. As such, I indicated that the United States will continue to sail, fly and operate anywhere that international law allows," President Obama said. "I conveyed to President Xi our significant concerns over land reclamation, construction and the militarization of disputed areas, which makes it harder for countries in the region to resolve disagreements peacefully and I encouraged a resolution between claimants in these areas."

"We are not a claimant. We just want to make sure that the rules of the road are upheld. I reiterated my strong commitment as well to our One China Policy based on the three joint communiques and the Taiwan Relations Act.

U.S., China Reach Agreement To Stop Commercial Cyber Espionage, President Obama Says - ABC News

Lol :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Ain't gonna happen anytime soon
 
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Sure, government to government espionage is expected.

We definitely have operatives in the Chinese government.


More like Obama told Xi how it would be, either he agrees to a deal, or we bite back.:sniper:

Looks like he didn't want us to bite back. :D

Pls bite back, you toothless paper tiger!:woot: Do you think that US can do anything serious against China except for talking to yourself.

Chinese Navy sets off for Syria - English pravda.ru

Another USA-China agreement? is that truth?

Debka in hebrew says the same, but I dont find others sources.

It's Russia's propaganda that China on their side.
 
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