two murders in india and the need for revolution

[jamahir]

@jamahir wants jamahiriya in the whole world and in all PDF threads.

one of the green revolutionary commitees in russia ( За Каддафи и его народ | Меня невозможно убить, я в сердцах миллионов ).

Stop commenting on my religion, everything else is debatable.

while islam ( in its present form ) will meld into near-future communism...

when you accept maneka gandhi or some khap panchayat or modi, you are rejecting islam... not "muslims" but true islam.

one can to go a mosque ten times a day while being a member of rss and still be "muslim"... but one cannot reject the abolishing of interest-upon-loans and be true to true islam.

your choice, after all you are a free think.

I may not agree with a political ideology but why should I reject it? I believe in democracy where everyone has a right to think and speak freely.

you are creating a atmosphere where it becomes life-threatening to reject sangh ideology... this you are doing by thanking those posts which you should be outraged about.

 

[Swaha]

one of the green revolutionary commitees in russia.

Ok, what's your point?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

the hostel murder happened in bangalore, india's "it capital'.




education?? bangalore ( the scene of the first crime ) has the highest number of colleges in any city in india, and india has the highest number of colleges in the world.

the idea of education is so wrongly understood in india.



i am surprised.



and that majority also doesn't accept the abolishing of interest-upon-loans that is core part of islam... not adopting this abolishing has lead to much of india's crimes, like farmer suicides, "honor killings" and student suicides.

you should renounce islam and reject socialism.



those two statements cancel out each other.

Your statements on this forum in other posts fall extremely short of socialism and instead seem to embrace communism. You however seem to be confused on whether you are embracing communist values or Islamic values. You cannot be both. Communism denounces all religions (see Karl Marx's "Das Kapital"). Islam to a limited extent denounces communism. Your cherry picking makes you seem to have a hidden agenda

 

[jamahir]

revolution will sweep away whatever good we have

examples??

besides what if revolutionaries themselves turn out to be corrupt ****oles as is normal after few year.

good point... which is why when the people are the government, via direct-democracy, the system becomes so simplified that it will be easy to handle such cases.

 

[kaku1]

Your statements on this forum in other posts fall extremely short of socialism and instead seem to embrace communism. You however seem to be confused on whether you are embracing communist values or Islamic values. You cannot be both. Communism denounces all religions (see Karl Marx's "Das Kapital"). Islam to a limited extent denounces communism. Your cherry picking makes you seem to have a hidden agenda

Its neither communism nor socialism...its dictatorship.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Its neither communism nor socialism...its dictatorship.

But even dictators embrace a political ideology. Jamahir seems to be confused on which ideology he wants to embrace

 

[Swaha]

when you accept maneka gandhi or some khap panchayat or modi, you are rejecting islam... not "muslims" but true islam.

you are creating a atmosphere where it becomes life-threatening to reject sangh ideology... this you are doing by thanking those posts which you should be outraged about.

Accepting Modi as PM means rejecting Islam?? That's great!!

Why are you getting outraged by someone thanking someone else's posts??

 

[livingdead]

examples??



good point... which is why when the people are the government, via direct-democracy, the system becomes so simplified that it will be easy to handle such cases.

considering how many hindus subscribe to hinduva sh*t.. it will cause chaos and bloodbath on street...
I quite like the indirect democracy(suitable for big countries),so no, thank you.
Cant see AAP ruling India via revolution...lolz... I will be kicked out of India for a comment here.

 

[Razia Sultana]

while islam ( in its present form ) will meld into near-future communism...

when you accept maneka gandhi or some khap panchayat or modi, you are rejecting islam... not "muslims" but true islam.

one can to go a mosque ten times a day while being a member of rss and still be "muslim"... but one cannot reject the abolishing of interest-upon-loans and be true to true islam.

your choice, after all you are a free think.



you are creating a atmosphere where it becomes life-threatening to reject sangh ideology... this you are doing by thanking those posts which you should be outraged about.

Stop giving certificates to muslims.
Please tell the leaders of muslim nations not to welcome Modi and shake hands with him or Maneka.
Talibans and Khap Panchayats are 2 sides of the same coin. If talibans are islamic then so are the khaps. I reject both khaps and talibans and people like you will declare me anti islamic... huh
I am more outraged about your petty and parochial mentality which gives opportunity to all communal forces to rise their heads in India.

 

[jamahir]

Your statements on this forum in other posts fall extremely short of socialism and instead seem to embrace communism.

communism is the ideal state of humanity ( or a society ) that must be reached through socialism, therefore i can call myself communist or socialist.

You however seem to be confused on whether you are embracing communist values or Islamic values.

like in many of my posts before - the teachings of prophet jesus and prophet muhammad are early socialism... this is my belief and of some socialists in west asia ( the baathis ) and africa.

which is why i call the works of marx and the russian revolution and those later, as modern socialism.

Islam to a limited extent denounces communism.

communism itself cannot be criticized ( for it's simple idea ) but its implementation can be... and islam itself cannot be taken in its full form into the future... for example, islam retains money system but for the present and future, money system must be abolished thus abolishing the entire field of capitalism and economics.

the "third universal theory" from libya proclaimed itself as alternative to full capitalism and the eastern implementation of communsim ( like in ussr and north korea ).

but can you give sources to where you have heard this denouncement??

 

[kaku1]

communism is the ideal state of humanity ( or a society ) that must be reached through socialism, therefore i can call myself communist or socialist.



like in many of my posts before - the teachings of prophet jesus and prophet muhammad are early socialism... this is my belief and of some socialists in west asia ( the baathis ) and africa.

which is why i call the works of marx and the russian revolution and those later, as modern socialism.



communism itself cannot be criticized ( for it's simple idea ) but its implementation can be... and islam itself cannot be taken in its full form into the future... for example, islam retains money system but for the present and future, money system must be abolished thus abolishing the entire field of capitalism and economics.

the "third universal theory" from libya proclaimed itself as alternative to full capitalism and the eastern implementation of communsim ( like in ussr and north korea ).

but can you give sources to where you have heard this denouncement??

Socialism is ideal.. But real question is the human are ideals? Those who want to implement are ideal?

 

[Levina]

According to The Hindu.

Addressing a press conference at Pavagada in Tumakuru district on Thursday, Ms. Rajeshwari, Gautami’s aunt, alleged that though the school management takes fees amounting to lakhs of rupees, the school failed to provide safety to the students, especially girls.

I didnot understand the context in which it was quoted.

the hostel murder happened in bangalore, india's "it capital'.




education?? bangalore ( the scene of the first crime ) has the highest number of colleges in any city in india, and india has the highest number of colleges in the world.

the idea of education is so wrongly understood in india.



i am surprised.



and that majority also doesn't accept the abolishing of interest-upon-loans that is core part of islam... not adopting this abolishing has lead to much of india's crimes, like farmer suicides, "honor killings" and student suicides.

you should renounce islam and reject socialism.



those two statements cancel out each other.

If not education and awareness then what else is the solution to this?
Revolution reminds me of "Arab spring" which ended in Libyan civil war, Syrian war and now yemen is also seen as a part of it. I don't want India to be the next Middle East!

 

[Hindustani78]

I didnot understand the context in which it was quoted.

It is about the lakhs of money given in donation and seems this girl have pointed out towards it.

 

[jamahir]

Ok, what's your point?

people are working towards world jamahiriya... planning and plotting.

Why are you getting outraged by someone thanking someone else's posts??

she wasn't thanking one of my posts which extolled the beauty of huma qureshi... her thank was for something else.

Talibans and Khap Panchayats are 2 sides of the same coin

when did i say not so??

Stop giving certificates to muslims.

what else decides the difference in being a "muslim" and following true islam ( and seeing its future )??

note carefully this exchange between muammar gaddafi ( imam of all muslims - whatever his naivety ) and the former saudi king, abdullah ( whom the western bloc called "custodian of holy two mosques" )...

Please tell the leaders of muslim nations not to welcome Modi and shake hands with him or Maneka.

i reject any ulema ( priest community ) for there is nothing called priest in islam... i reject any "muslim leader" being more than diplomatic with modi or maneka... and we know who those are, yes?? the current afghan governments, the gulf states, indonesia government, nigeria government etc.

 

[Swaha]

people are working towards world jamahiriya... planning and plotting. .

You mean you are working right? Good luck with that.

she wasn't thanking one of my posts which extolled the beauty of huma qureshi... her thank was for something else.

So what?