Turkish marriage law finally recognises Muslim weddings, infuriating Islamophobes

[Luffy 500]

Isn't it more secular thing to allow people who wanted to marry through imam and give them what they want , while the other option is also open.
So they have allowed both.
This is true secularism I think, that everyone is free to choose the method of marriage they prefer through imam or civil person.
It is actually very positive step, comparing it to zia regime is very wrong. The same is the process with Pakistan, you can do court marriage and you can have islamic marriage.
Why bring secularism in this....

Secularism actually is about forced conformation. Its main aim is total domination of the public sphere and social engineering and marriage is a huge part of it. Just look at the recent culture wars in USA (liberals VS christians conservatives) and western Europe and see how secularism has completely eroded long held common sense beliefs about gender roles, marriage, sex , morality etc etc. NO secular system ever promotes plurality eg. NOT a single secular state officially recognizes Islamic family laws except for may India but even now Hindutvadis are whining for a common secular civil code. You can argue that there is a spectrum where there are certain tolerant secular states like USA to less tolerant ones like France and past Kemalist turkey. But all secular system essentially enforces its own views on society. Its a religion with its own views about how man should conduct themselves in public and private life and it is devoid of God and is hostile against value systems like Islam that addresses the public space & material world while also fulfilling the spiritual needs of human beings.

 

[BATMAN]

Erdogan will do to Turkey what General Zia did to Pakistan.

don't let your sectarian bias steer away the subject matter.
I already see above racists officials commenting.

 

[Frogman]

What they're really arguing for is the deregulation of marriage to a point that there is no longer any legal proof that two people have been wed.

Meaning they no longer have to follow national laws on marriage, divorce, and custody if the marriage bears children. So they can practice polygamy, verbal divorce, and forcibly take children. Cretins!

It's a system ripe for abuse by misogynist twerps that often leaves women with nothing except the stigma of being divorced.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

The medieval era Christian world had long been exploited and ''massacred'' by the supreme religious thrones of ''authorities'', and thus become slaves of those religious ''authorities'' after many changes in society, economy or security, which were distorted indoctrinations that were supposedly based on the holly religion and words of Allah, in order to turn and shape the christians into slaves, like in ancient Egypt.

As a result, They did not care anything about the life, instead focused more on the death and blood without questioning the religious thrones and even forgetting the original religion, and thus hunting for food was replaced with hunting ''witches'' for the thrones of religious ''authorities'', or securing the society was replaced with massacring each other for the safety of the thrones.

With the birth of secularism as a result, The society of today's west have remembered the life, therefore become the most developed societies and countries in the world.

Whereas Some ''popes'' in today's world of Islam want to build or strengthen their thrones and follow the same path in mediaval Christian world, or ancient Egypt.

It is even trackable, follow the blood bath, primitive life conditions in the world.

The key is to discover the secularism and laicism from the very first begining to today, or choose to be slaves of those ''popes'' and keep massacring each other in primitive life conditions.

 

[xenon54 out]

What they're really arguing for is the deregulation of marriage to a point that there is no longer any legal proof that two people have been wed.

Meaning they no longer have to follow national laws on marriage, divorce, and custody if the marriage bears children. So they can practice polygamy, verbal divorce, and forcibly take children. Cretins!

It's a system ripe for abuse by misogynist twerps that often leaves women with nothing except the stigma of being divorced.

Actually not, its about that the Mufti also get the permission for carrying out legal marriage, otherwise they also need to obey the marriage laws, those didnt change.

Before the change people went to municipality for marrying and then to mufti for religious ceremony, now you can do booth at mufti or still go to mumnicipality if you dont want a religious ceremony but the criterias for marrying and the laws didnt change.

 

[Frogman]

Actually not, its about that the Mufti also get the permission for carrying out legal marriage, otherwise they also need to obey the marriage laws, those didnt change.

Before the change people went to municipality for marrying and then to mufti for religious ceremony, now you can do booth at mufti or still go to mumnicipality if you dont want a religious ceremony but the criterias for marrying and the laws didnt change.

That's the eventual goal. The concessions made will not satisfy Islamists at home nor stop those abroad like OP from complaining.

 

[xenon54 out]

That's the eventual goal. The concessions made will not satisfy Islamists at home nor stop those abroad like OP from complaining.

Those are the minority.

 

[airmarshal]

A Muslim country and a Catholic law was imposed on it to make it secular! Thats very weird.

So having children out of wedlock in Turkey is permissible and legal religious marriage is not? Thats a grave contradiction.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

You idiots don't understand that this law has been passed to protect the secular marriage law.
All the religious marriages will become legal in order to protect the women in such marriages.

 

[UkroTurk]

Are the real reasons of that people prefer illegal religious marriage , just because legal registrion is HARAM?
Why do people prefer religious marriage in Turkey?
Could this religious marriage registration stop the unregistered marriage?
People prefer mufti marriage due-to there is no legal commitments. Also the people who arent religious make mufti marriage. I dont expect those people will be eager to register their marriage.
its just refraining responsibility and sick mindset.Lets see.

 

[xyxmt]

Richer? Not by much. They were actually behind in the 1950's.

Incidentally, Bangladesh is secular, not Islamic.

You just can't accept that the economic resurgence of Turkey was at the hands of an Islamic party.

if you even call some meat product as Islamic pork, these same asses will catch fire again.

Are the real reasons of that people prefer illegal religious marriage , just because legal registrion is HARAM?
Why do people prefer religious marriage in Turkey?
Could this religious marriage registration stop the unregistered marriage?
People prefer mufti marriage due-to there is no legal commitments. Also the people who arent religious make mufti marriage. I dont expect those people will be eager to register their marriage.
its just refraining responsibility and sick mindset.Lets see.

I dont think there is any country where marriages are not registered

 

[livingdead]

I see no problem as long as it is documented... marry as you wish, the way you want... but inform the govt else you lose all the benefits.

 

[Arefin007]

secularists can enjoy their dysfunctional perverted so called society devoid of ethics. when they suffer they wont get to blame religion then it will be something else they will pin it on like the losers they are. progressive my foot

 

[Crocodile]

Wasn't planning to interfere in another nation's affairs. But then saw the poll and decided to weigh in. So a follower of the most backward, oppressive cult on the planet is calling secularism oppressive!! Oh the irony from islamists never ceases to amuse me.