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Is NOT secularism an oppressive anti-islamic cult ideology ?


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Let me assure you, once you give mullah brigade little room then one day you again will be looking for another Kamal. Keep the religious fanatics away from state affairs because they don't have any capability to contribute anything positive. It's up to Turks to decide in which way they want to go but in Pakistan we are stuck in situation where we need someone like Kamal.
Well, except the muftis in Turkey are also educated by the state, there is no parallel religious authority except that of the state which is monitored by the judiciary system ensuring that no law gets broken.

Inauguration of first female assistant of the highest religious authority in Turkey...

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Well, except the muftis in Turkey are also educated by the state, there is no parallel religious authority except that of the state which is monitored by the judiciary system ensuring that no law gets broken.

Inauguration of first female assistant of the highest religious authority in Turkey...

Diyanet_isleri_baskan_yardimcisi_Prof._Dr._Huriye_Marti_3.jpg

That is blessing for Turkey, which perhaps would not have been there without Ata Turk?
 
my gut is telling me the same thing.

There is piling evidence that already shows it to be the case. And more becomes evident every day.

Erdogan dreams to resurrect the Ottomon Empire with him as its Sultan, but to do that he needs to destroy Kemalism and all its manifestations. Well on his way.

Well, the Turkish people did elect him. If they want this, let them have it.
 
Well, except the muftis in Turkey are also educated by the state, there is no parallel religious authority except that of the state which is monitored by the judiciary system ensuring that no law gets broken.

Inauguration of first female assistant of the highest religious authority in Turkey...

Diyanet_isleri_baskan_yardimcisi_Prof._Dr._Huriye_Marti_3.jpg

And Atatürk is at the background...

Some foreigners will never be able to understand society of the Turks.
 
“Backward shithole” can be words you can use for Afghanistan, Bangladesh or other such Islamic paradises in South Asia but not for Turkey.
Even in the 1970s Turkey and it’s population were richer than Pakistan in 2017. If Turkey was a shithole THEN then tell me what your country must be called NOW?

ps It’s only natural that a country with a young population on such a strategic place got some development in 15 years. A thing that happened almost everywhere around the world too.

Richer? Not by much. They were actually behind in the 1950's.

Incidentally, Bangladesh is secular, not Islamic.

You just can't accept that the economic resurgence of Turkey was at the hands of an Islamic party.
 
“Backward shithole” can be words you can use for Afghanistan, Bangladesh or other such Islamic paradises in South Asia but not for Turkey.

Have some respect for those people, Afghani people are actually educated people that born into harsh circumstances and you can't blame them for what has ensued over the past couple decades. And whatever you think, you should respect people in general.
So you can't counter what I said and instead start cussing - typical treacherous Bangla. No I won't forget 1971 mofo.

You sound frustrated and trying to pick a fight every where you post. That's uncalled for and I seriously can't comprehend how you guys enjoy insulting one another over and over again. It's not fun nor should it make you feel better.
 
Isn't it more secular thing to allow people who wanted to marry through imam and give them what they want , while the other option is also open.
So they have allowed both.
This is true secularism I think, that everyone is free to choose the method of marriage they prefer through imam or civil person.
It is actually very positive step, comparing it to zia regime is very wrong. The same is the process with Pakistan, you can do court marriage and you can have islamic marriage.
Why bring secularism in this....
 
Erdogan will do to Turkey what General Zia did to Pakistan.
What Ordu did for Islam in Pak our party is doing the same in Turkey - an MP from the governing party

They set a heavy seal on the soul of the Turkish folks so that they can never reach their former glory!!!! That seal is being slowly etched off by one atomic layer at a time....
 
Erdoğan's dream of resurrecting Ottoman spirit or making peace with kurdish terrorists have long ended, they tried to kick patriot and nationalist officers from the military together with Gülen but at the end it was those "Kemalist" soldiers who saved his *** last year...

Turkish currency is collapsing, we're in a quarrel with multiple European countries which means less investment to Turkey...%70 of the foreign investments are from big European companies that helped Turkey's economy grow so fast under Erdoğan's party.

Meanwhile, a dude from Afghanistan tells Turkey a "shit hole"

lt's always tiring to see such ignorant comments about Turkey both from dumbass arrogant Europeans and smartass wannabe Muslims who destroyed their country moved to the UK and now want sharia there as well :no:
 
That's uncalled for
I think you need to address the guy who was cussing. I merely expressed my opinion on the matter. These Banglas with severe inferiority complex keep suckling on the Ottoman teat to gain some vicarious respect. This is almost as bad as Pakistani's trying pretend they are Arab sheikhs or pretend they are third rate Palestinians when chances are they live in UK.

Bangladeshis at it creating fassad as ever.

Nothing new
You can be funny sometimes ..... hahaha !
 
I think you need to address the guy who was cussing. I merely expressed my opinion on the matter. These Banglas with severe inferiority complex keep suckling on the Ottoman teat to gain some vicarious respect. This is almost as bad as Pakistani's trying pretend they are Arab sheikhs or pretend they are third rate Palestinians when chances are they live in UK.

I'm not sure how many times you need to repeat yourself, we already get your story. You may have bad experiences with certain Arabs or whatever the deal may be. Does not mean a south asian can't pay attention to Arab affairs or vice versa. Us being Muslims too, we see no difference between each other. I'm interested in all global affairs including ones with Muslim majority nations. I just don't post much on matters I'm not knowledgable on. An Afghani or Pakistani or Bangladeshi whatever it may be is a crown on my head, I will treat any Muslim brother or sister(or any person) with respectful manners. And I believe in a brotherhood between us, that current governments are not part of. And other members here think the same way, we are all frustrated with state of affairs and ruling parties.

So we are stuck with them for until God decrees, and as Muslim brothers and sisters we have lot in common and empathize with each others struggles. If that bothers you, then so be it, you can't force your opinions on others. I'm going to continue promoting that because it is what makes and what I believe in.
 
Richer? Not by much. They were actually behind in the 1950's.

Incidentally, Bangladesh is secular, not Islamic.

You just can't accept that the economic resurgence of Turkey was at the hands of an Islamic party.

A quick Google search shows that in 1960 Turkey’ GDP was 14 billion dollars and around 520 dollars per capita which was again 6 smaller than the per capita GDP of the US, 4.5 times smaller of that of Canada etc. but still around or above the world average of 460$ per capita in that year. At the same time the economic giant Pakistan was producing 3 billion dollars of GDP with 82$ Per capita... Now you show me how much ahead were you than Turkey in the 1950s.

The backward shithole Turkey reached your current GDP per capita of around 1500$ in 1977- 40 years before you and your progressive Islamic rule. Of course that like any other country Turkey had it’s periods of economic boom and of economic crisis too and will have them again.

ps All Pakistani, Bengali or whatever other blind Islamists who always bark about secularism and how destructive it is are free to pack their bags and leave Britain or whatever other Western country they currently are living into and move back to their countries. Instead of living in the evil West among the secular backward white devils you can move back to the lands of your ancestors and live happily.
 
Erdogan will do to Turkey what General Zia did to Pakistan.
By recognizing Muslim marriages?

Oh wow.

“Backward shithole” can be words you can use for Afghanistan, Bangladesh or other such Islamic paradises in South Asia but not for Turkey.
Even in the 1970s Turkey and it’s population were richer than Pakistan in 2017. If Turkey was a shithole THEN then tell me what your country must be called NOW?

ps It’s only natural that a country with a young population on such a strategic place got some development in 15 years. A thing that happened almost everywhere around the world too.
I disagree with the person who called Turkey a "backward shithole back then", but you're also wrong on many points.

Compared to 1970's Turkey with current Pakistani economy, Pakistan's GDP per Capita would be 4x larger than Turkey's and Pakistan's nominal GDP would be 17x larger. Today, Pakistan's nominal PPP is 1/2 that of Turkey's and is expected to reach parity really soon.

Also, Bangladesh is a secular state like Turkey. In 1975, they had a 2x larger economy than Pakistan, but now Pakistan's nominal GDP is almost a whopping $80 billion more.
 

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