Turkey's opposition strikes blow to Erdogan with Istanbul mayoral win

[Oublious]

Great arguments.



And you can lecture us about jailing more journalists than any other country in the world and political opponents. Nor do you. Stop acting like you are some kind of Western democracy or even comparable to a successful Muslim democracy like Indonesia that is not some freak construct based on a copy of French secularism (forced with violence) and some fake semi-fascist "Turkish nationalism" when 5% of you have actual Turkic origins.

You should. Maybe you would not have so many traitors in power and PKK fanboys.



Sure, I am actually a fellow Zaza Kurd that lives in Germany. Might be your cousin. I should travel to Turkey to learn what democracy is (lol).

Anyway seems that the end of your beloved Erdogan is near. Failed everywhere else in the region (MB project) and now failing at home despite the farce of calling another municipal election in Istanbul after losing the first time.

WTF are you writing, we can lecture democracy thats the fact and the question. The rest of your post is trolling...

 

[KediKesenFare3]

@Al Watan Al Arabi
Mr. Baguette, Erdogan - just like any other politician - is just a person who can win or lose an election in Turkey. We, the people, decide - and that's what puts Turkey decades ahead of Saudi "Arabia", which - btw - is an artificial country in the Middle East unlike Turkey, Egypt or Iran.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

WTF are you writing, we can lecture democracy thats the fact and the question. The rest of your post is trolling...

Sure you can. As I just exposed for all to see. Go read that Freedom House report and come back to me blabbering about democracy from the Netherlands (a real democracy).

 

[KediKesenFare3]

WTF are you writing, we can lecture democracy thats the fact and the question. The rest of your post is trolling...

Did you know that he's half French, half Arab? He's just too ashamed to admit it publicly.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

@Al Watan Al Arabi
Mr. Baguette, Erdogan - just like any other politician - is just a person who can win or lose an election in Turkey. We, the people, decide - and that's what puts Turkey decades ahead of Saudi "Arabia", which - btw - is an artificial country in the Middle East unlike Turkey, Egypt or Iran.

I am as French as you are Turkic and Mongolian, Mr. Kaka Biji Biji.

Just like every other pseudo-democratic leader of Turkey, he indeed comes and goes like every leader in the world. Yes, you can keep your "democracy" of the masses. It worked great so far. That is why your state is worshipping an anti-democrat (dictator effectively) like Ataturk, lol.

Yes, Arabia is an artificial "country" despite being the oldest historical region in the region along with Mesopotamia next door and Egypt next door.

Meanwhile nothing called "Turkey" existed less than 100 years ago so talk about "artificial".

Arabia has existed for 5 millenia and the name for almost 3500 years (predates Iran by 1000 years) and modern-day KSA is composed of 5 distinct and ancient historical regions of KSA (Hijaz, Najd, Eastern Arabia, Northern Arabia and the South) all predating Turkey as well by millenia.

Did you know that he's half French, half Arab? He's just too ashamed to admit it publicly.

I am not but I see nothing "embarrassing" about being Arab nor French. If I was a stateless Kurd on the other hand that would be a problem.

BTW good to see that you two Arab-obsessed trolls are getting thanks from that fake half Arab and half Pakistani that I exposed a few days ago. Good stuff.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I am as French as you are Turkic and Mongolian, Mr. Kaka Biji Biji.

Just like every other pseudo-democratic leader of Turkey, he indeed comes and goes like every leader in the world. Yes, you can keep your "democracy" of the masses. It worked great so far. That is why your state is worshipping an anti-democrat (dictator effectively) like Ataturk, lol.

Yes, Arabia is an artificial "country" despite being the oldest historical region in the region along with Mesopotamia next door and Egypt next door.

Meanwhile nothing called "Turkey" existed less than 100 years ago so talk about "artificial".

Arabia has existed for 5 millenia and the name for almost 3500 years (predates Iran by 1000 years) and modern-day KSA is composed of 5 distinct and ancient historical regions of KSA (Hijaz, Najd, Eastern Arabia, Northern Arabia and the South).



I am not but I see nothing "embarrassing" about being Arab nor French. If I was a stateless Kurd on the other hand...

Just because you don't look "white enough" doesn't mean that you have to cover or deny your French heritage. Embrace it and be chilled. You're overcompensating your struggles to finally get accepted as a French by your fellow countrymen by emphasizing ridiculously your A rab half. That's not cool and it makes you bitter as many people here can confirm.

By the way, it is common knowledge that the Iranian culture is much older than anything found on the Arap peninsula. Look it up.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Just because you don't look "white enough" doesn't mean that you have to cover or deny your French heritage. Embrace it and be chilled. You're overcompensating your struggles to finally get accepted as a French by your fellow countrymen by emphasizing ridiculously your A rab half. That's not cool and it makes you bitter as many people here can confirm.

By the way, it is common knowledge that the Iranian culture is much older than anything found on the Arap peninsula. Look it up.

If just your low IQ trolling was as good as your imagination, I would take your nonsense blabbering seriously, my Kurdish Zaza friend.

Your last sentence is a great joke. In particular as 1 civilization in Eastern Arabia (modern-day KSA and Bahrain) (Dilmun - contemporary of Sumer and IVC next door) predates any civilization in Iran. Not to mention that Arabia has the oldest human presence outside of Africa in the world.

But what to expect from a guy that claims that "Turkey" a less than 100 year old construct based on fake 100 year old Turkic nationalism and 95% Turkified people of mixed Arab, Assyrian, Greek, Armenian, Kurdish, Caucasian, Balkan and what not origins, is older than Arabia, one of the oldest historical regions of the world with an own genuine and indigenous civilization and culture unlike your Turkey. Not even the language that you speak (still containing more Arabic words than any foreign language despite Ataturks forceful change of your original culture) is native to Anatolia. Nor the religion you follow nor anything other than elements of your DNA. You will never understand what it means to belong to an actual genuine civilization that is continuous for millennia and not a result of foreign elements by large.

Even my usernames first word (Watan) your likes are familiar with for a reason. What a coincidence indeed.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

If just your low IQ trolling was as good as your imagination, I would take your nonsense blabbering seriously, my Kurdish Zaza friend.

Your last sentence is a great joke. In particular as 1 civilization in Eastern Arabia (modern-day KSA and Bahrain) (Dilmun - contemporary of Sumer and IVC next door) predates any civilization in Iran. Not to mention that Arabia has the oldest human presence outside of Africa in the world.

But what to expect from a key that claims that "Turkey" a less than 100 year old construct based on fake 100 year old Turkic nationalism and 95% Turkified people of mixed Arab, Assyrian, Greek, Armenian, Kurdish, Caucasian, Balkan and what not origins, is older than Arabia, one of the oldest historical regions of the world with an own genuine and indigenous civilization and culture unlike your Turkey.

Educate yourself please. You're spreading fake information: http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/older_than_egyptian.php

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Educate yourself please. You're spreading fake information: http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/older_than_egyptian.php

"Iran Chamber" article from 2003 with no references or evidence. Sure. Older than Egypt. Which civilization is that exactly?

Sure a region that was not inhabited by humans until 10.000's of years after humans had roamed, created cultures and civilizations in Arabia and Egypt, is somehow "older", lol. The oldest civilization in Iran are the Elamites who were non-Iranian, non-Iranic and had more in common with Sumer and Dilmun next door.

Not to mention that most of their pre-Islamic culture and civilization is a copy of our Semitic civilization. From language (Aramaic), alphabet (Aramaic), architecture, bureaucracy (copied on the Assyrian Empire), titles (Kings of Kings is an ancient Semitic title used by rulers from Arabia to Egypt to Sham and Mesopotamia) to art etc. The irony.

https://www.ksk.edu.ee/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/KVUOA_Toimetised_16_9_Johandi.pdf

http://brfencing.org/hist643/Assyria & Persia.html

Checkmate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-34170798

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/09/health/saudi-arabia-fossil-finger/index.html

Peer-reviewed studies + recent articles with clear references and proves vs. some 15 year old nonsense articles with no references from an "Iran Chamber" source, lol.

 

[Oublious]

Did you know that he's half French, half Arab? He's just too ashamed to admit it publicly.

Thay guy is 50% Arab, but is more Arab then a Arab. Most of his contribution to PDF is reclame of KSA. A defence forum looks like spammed with that guys post.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Thay guy is 50% Arab, but is more Arab then a Arab. Most of his contribution to PDF is reclame of KSA. A defence forum looks like spammed with that guys post.

Repeating unfunded nonsense lies does not make it true. I can also claim that you are a Turkified Papuan (Turkified you are but that is evident).

Did you take your medicine? Go take a look on the Arab forum of PDF where only military related topics are posted. This section is for politics genius (MAINLY ARAB AND AFRICA AS IS WRITTEN) so obviously people will talk about a regional power like KSA especially when users are creating 100's of threads related to KSA on a weekly basis here. Much of it propaganda. Even you do it. Yet to create a thread related to Turkey on the other hand.
There are hardly any Arab users on PDF (active) so what the hell are you blabbering about? Most of the sane Turkish users left as well. Forgot that?

 

[Nilgiri]

I really don’t understand the situation with Erdogan. A lot if Turkish sentiment online is very much against him, but so is a lot of the Western right-wing, Israeli media which also hates Erdogan because they feel he is too strong a voice for Turkey.

How can Turkish nationalist and neo-con in US, rabid Breitbart type equally hate Erdogan?

Not everything has to be delineated by identity politics cleanly each time.

 

[Test7]

My favorite thing about Turkish military forums is that members only write for the military defense industry. People ask questions and learn about tanks, planes, newly developed products...

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

My favorite feature in Turkish military forums is members only write for the military defense industry. People ask questions and learn about tanks, planes, newly developed products...

All the best Turkish users left this forum. People that you could actually have sane discussions with despite disagreeing without trolling. Similarly many great Arab users left. Hardly any left.

This section is not for military news. Mostly politics and affairs hence the frequent troll wars in an already heated region. Politics is in the region is always a very heated and ugly affair.

Expect for a few users this is not the section nor forum to have any serious discussions on the Middle East. People here mostly have an agenda and nothing else. Hence the few but vocal Arab-obsessed users here from mostly 2 regional countries. For instance I am yet to see you post a constructive post in relation to Arab affairs but comments that could be said about Turkey as well just like I showed in this thread alone. You will not admit it of course.

There are many Arab military forums and a huge social media presence on Twitter and other social media platform. There you can see what is really going on and many of your unfunded beliefs will be quickly shattered. You will also realize that the average Arab and Turk has no problems with each other outside of a vocal minority on both sides. You can however think otherwise. Even goes for Arabs and Iranians (even more so I would argue contrary to popular belief) as well.

I know very well about the Turkish media presence in Arabic as well and to what extend Turkey goes to appear pro-Arab and not anti-Arab on social media.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Mods, pls do something about this troll @Al Watan Al Arabi who reminds me much of long-winded @saif Al Arab

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