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Source: turkish hurriet news:
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...egypt.aspx?pageID=517&nID=52474&NewsCatID=398

the title of a slew of news stories in the Turkish (and foreign) press recently. The lead paragraph would proudly announce to the reader that the Turkish government had made punishing decisions against Egypt’s interim (coup) government, and one of the decisions was to suspend the delivery of Turkey’s national unmanned aerial vehicle, the ANKA, to Egypt despite an earlier agreement. Readers’ comments were truly fun: Hats off to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan for punishing Egypt’s coup leaders by putting a halt on the delivery of a strategic, all-Turkish military aircraft. Hats off to the colleagues who fabricated that story!

As always, facts are slightly different than the news produce of Erdoğan’s willing propagandists in the media: 1- There never was an agreement between Turkey and Egypt for the sale of the Turkish drone ANKA, 2- Hence, no deliveries had been scheduled, 3- Naturally, one could not suspend unscheduled deliveries under a deal never signed, 4- The ANKA is not an aircraft anyone could sell because it does not exist even in the Turkish Air Force’s inventory, 5- There is not yet even a contract to sell the ANKA to the Turkish military, and 6- The “all-Turkish” ANKA boasts a foreign engine, foreign automatic take-off and landing system, foreign landing gear, foreign flight data computer, foreign radio, foreign sensor and may even feature a foreign targeting pod soon – not to mention its Persian name.

I remember that one of Erdoğan’s election billboards before the 2011 parliamentary elections had claimed: “Our own aircraft is in the skies!” The billboard was a reference to the ANKA, which at that time had been briefly in the skies, making one crash landing after another. But never mind, rumor has it that the “Turkish” drone can nowadays take off and land without much damage.

If you take every piece of defense-related propaganda news seriously then you might be tempted to believe that Turkey will build its own fighter jet in the next few years by spending nearly – an optimistic – $32 billion in an ambitious program. The cost estimate, sadly, excludes the engine for the aircraft. When you just add to that modest budget another $16 billion Turkey optimistically hopes to spend on the new generation, multinational fighter, the F-35, you would realistically conclude that Turkey is talking about spending $50 billion to $55 billion for new fighter jets – plus whatever it may deem appropriate to spend for about 200 jet engines.

The only trouble is not whether that sum will be available in the Turkish vaults. There is another minor snag: Who will fly all those new generation aircraft? According to Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz, in January/February 2013 alone, 110 military pilots, 63 of whom are warplane pilots, quit service. Another 11 are behind bars on charges of plotting a coup against Erdoğan’s government. There are several others who are mulling their career options in civilian life, and no fewer are waiting for the first chance to get a nice pension package and retire. Unless, of course, they are arrested on charges of attempting to undermine the Turkish Armed Forces just by deciding no longer to work.

Meanwhile, the last annual reshuffle of the top brass on Aug. 3 introduced Turkey’s least senior commanders ever for all four services. Surely, a colonel as air force commander will be out of question for a long time, but Erdoğan’s military advisers should at once find a solution to the emerging pilot shortage in the service.

Recruiting war pilots from among the graduates of Erdoğan’s favorite education institutes, the imam schools, could be an option. Hiring, on a part-time basis, pilots from friendly/brotherly countries in Turkey’s vicinity could be another: The air forces of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Armenia, Bulgaria, Greece and Israel would surely
 
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My favorite part of the article:

As always, facts are slightly different than the news produce of Erdoğan’s willing propagandists in the media: 1- There never was an agreement between Turkey and Egypt for the sale of the Turkish drone ANKA,
2- Hence, no deliveries had been scheduled,
3- Naturally, one could not suspend unscheduled deliveries under a deal never signed,
4- The ANKA is not an aircraft anyone could sell because it does not exist even in the Turkish Air Force’s inventory, 5- There is not yet even a contract to sell the ANKA to the Turkish military, and
6- The “all-Turkish” ANKA boasts a foreign engine, foreign automatic take-off and landing system, foreign landing gear, foreign flight data computer, foreign radio, foreign sensor and may even feature a foreign targeting pod soon – not to mention its Persian name.
 
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the title of a slew of news stories in the Turkish (and foreign) press recently. The lead paragraph would proudly announce to the reader that the Turkish government had made punishing decisions against Egypt’s interim (coup) government, and one of the decisions was to suspend the delivery of Turkey’s national unmanned aerial vehicle, the ANKA, to Egypt despite an earlier agreement. Readers’ comments were truly fun: Hats off to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan for punishing Egypt’s coup leaders by putting a halt on the delivery of a strategic, all-Turkish military aircraft. Hats off to the colleagues who fabricated that story!

As always, facts are slightly different than the news produce of Erdoğan’s willing propagandists in the media: 1- There never was an agreement between Turkey and Egypt for the sale of the Turkish drone ANKA, 2- Hence, no deliveries had been scheduled, 3- Naturally, one could not suspend unscheduled deliveries under a deal never signed, 4- The ANKA is not an aircraft anyone could sell because it does not exist even in the Turkish Air Force’s inventory, 5- There is not yet even a contract to sell the ANKA to the Turkish military, and 6- The “all-Turkish” ANKA boasts a foreign engine, foreign automatic take-off and landing system, foreign landing gear, foreign flight data computer, foreign radio, foreign sensor and may even feature a foreign targeting pod soon – not to mention its Persian name.

I remember that one of Erdoğan’s election billboards before the 2011 parliamentary elections had claimed: “Our own aircraft is in the skies!” The billboard was a reference to the ANKA, which at that time had been briefly in the skies, making one crash landing after another. But never mind, rumor has it that the “Turkish” drone can nowadays take off and land without much damage.

If you take every piece of defense-related propaganda news seriously then you might be tempted to believe that Turkey will build its own fighter jet in the next few years by spending nearly – an optimistic – $32 billion in an ambitious program. The cost estimate, sadly, excludes the engine for the aircraft. When you just add to that modest budget another $16 billion Turkey optimistically hopes to spend on the new generation, multinational fighter, the F-35, you would realistically conclude that Turkey is talking about spending $50 billion to $55 billion for new fighter jets – plus whatever it may deem appropriate to spend for about 200 jet engines.

The only trouble is not whether that sum will be available in the Turkish vaults. There is another minor snag: Who will fly all those new generation aircraft? According to Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz, in January/February 2013 alone, 110 military pilots, 63 of whom are warplane pilots, quit service. Another 11 are behind bars on charges of plotting a coup against Erdoğan’s government. There are several others who are mulling their career options in civilian life, and no fewer are waiting for the first chance to get a nice pension package and retire. Unless, of course, they are arrested on charges of attempting to undermine the Turkish Armed Forces just by deciding no longer to work.

Meanwhile, the last annual reshuffle of the top brass on Aug. 3 introduced Turkey’s least senior commanders ever for all four services. Surely, a colonel as air force commander will be out of question for a long time, but Erdoğan’s military advisers should at once find a solution to the emerging pilot shortage in the service.

Recruiting war pilots from among the graduates of Erdoğan’s favorite education institutes, the imam schools, could be an option. Hiring, on a part-time basis, pilots from friendly/brotherly countries in Turkey’s vicinity could be another: The air forces of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Armenia, Bulgaria, Greece and Israel would surely

You know you're a loser, right? Swallow your pride.

1) Never an agreement? So? There was an intention to buy our future weapons system because Egypt isn't an advanced and civilized enough country to produce even a propeller fin, let alone ANKA.

4) Anka isn't an aircraft you can sell because it doesn't exist? Huh?! I guess the F-35 doesn't exist either, there's no way it's been sold yet, right?

6) Keep whining. It's Turkish lol. Can we produce it at will, in numbers we wish? Yea. Persian name? So? You don't have loanwords in Arabic? I know an Egyptian professor in the USA who loves rubbing the backsides of your English and French masters. Maybe you borrowed some words from them too?


Turkey doesn't have trouble fielding pilots for its Air Force. I don't know why you think our entire manpool is 110 pilots but, then again, you're not used to having a real airforce in your country so you wouldn't know. It's probably because Israel destroys your airforce on the ground every time.


By the way Nasser was a failure. Sadat a failure. Mubarak a failure. Sisi is a failure. Maybe there is a trend here.. Maybe Egypt is a failed country. All barbarians. Arabs in the Gulf and Levent make you guys look like cavemen, you savages


Nice job killing dozens of protesters earlier, by the way.
 
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the title of a slew of news stories in the Turkish (and foreign) press recently. The lead paragraph would proudly announce to the reader that the Turkish government had made punishing decisions against Egypt’s interim (coup) government, and one of the decisions was to suspend the delivery of Turkey’s national unmanned aerial vehicle, the ANKA, to Egypt despite an earlier agreement. Readers’ comments were truly fun: Hats off to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan for punishing Egypt’s coup leaders by putting a halt on the delivery of a strategic, all-Turkish military aircraft. Hats off to the colleagues who fabricated that story!

As always, facts are slightly different than the news produce of Erdoğan’s willing propagandists in the media: 1- There never was an agreement between Turkey and Egypt for the sale of the Turkish drone ANKA, 2- Hence, no deliveries had been scheduled, 3- Naturally, one could not suspend unscheduled deliveries under a deal never signed, 4- The ANKA is not an aircraft anyone could sell because it does not exist even in the Turkish Air Force’s inventory, 5- There is not yet even a contract to sell the ANKA to the Turkish military, and 6- The “all-Turkish” ANKA boasts a foreign engine, foreign automatic take-off and landing system, foreign landing gear, foreign flight data computer, foreign radio, foreign sensor and may even feature a foreign targeting pod soon – not to mention its Persian name.

I remember that one of Erdoğan’s election billboards before the 2011 parliamentary elections had claimed: “Our own aircraft is in the skies!” The billboard was a reference to the ANKA, which at that time had been briefly in the skies, making one crash landing after another. But never mind, rumor has it that the “Turkish” drone can nowadays take off and land without much damage.

If you take every piece of defense-related propaganda news seriously then you might be tempted to believe that Turkey will build its own fighter jet in the next few years by spending nearly – an optimistic – $32 billion in an ambitious program. The cost estimate, sadly, excludes the engine for the aircraft. When you just add to that modest budget another $16 billion Turkey optimistically hopes to spend on the new generation, multinational fighter, the F-35, you would realistically conclude that Turkey is talking about spending $50 billion to $55 billion for new fighter jets – plus whatever it may deem appropriate to spend for about 200 jet engines.

The only trouble is not whether that sum will be available in the Turkish vaults. There is another minor snag: Who will fly all those new generation aircraft? According to Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz, in January/February 2013 alone, 110 military pilots, 63 of whom are warplane pilots, quit service. Another 11 are behind bars on charges of plotting a coup against Erdoğan’s government. There are several others who are mulling their career options in civilian life, and no fewer are waiting for the first chance to get a nice pension package and retire. Unless, of course, they are arrested on charges of attempting to undermine the Turkish Armed Forces just by deciding no longer to work.

Meanwhile, the last annual reshuffle of the top brass on Aug. 3 introduced Turkey’s least senior commanders ever for all four services. Surely, a colonel as air force commander will be out of question for a long time, but Erdoğan’s military advisers should at once find a solution to the emerging pilot shortage in the service.

Recruiting war pilots from among the graduates of Erdoğan’s favorite education institutes, the imam schools, could be an option. Hiring, on a part-time basis, pilots from friendly/brotherly countries in Turkey’s vicinity could be another: The air forces of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Armenia, Bulgaria, Greece and Israel would surely

your thoughts is based on almost %90 wrong information
 
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6- The “all-Turkish” ANKA boasts a foreign engine, foreign automatic take-off and landing system, foreign landing gear, foreign flight data computer, foreign radio, foreign sensor and may even feature a foreign targeting pod soon – not to mention its Persian name.[/B]

False, Go to sticky thread about ANKA and learn some facts.
 
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The only thing foreighn on the ANKA is the engine.
Where is the link who wrote this article?
Are you a presstv fan to?
This is from Turkish hurriet!
Not pressTV.
Not taraf!
Main stream Turkish media.
 
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This is from Turkish hurriet!
Not pressTV.
Not taraf!
Main stream Turkish media.

Where's the article numskull?


BREAKING NEWS! HAITI DECLARES WAR ON NORTH KOREA! HAITIAN AIRCRAFT CARRIERS HEADED TO THE YELLOW SEA source: BBC
 
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Here is the original article.

BURAK BEKD

Oh so that entire post was the article.
@farag, could you put the article in quote boxes or something? The idiot writer of the article did such a poor job, that I thought you wrote those comments (not that you're a bad writer, i have no idea how you write. It's just the style he wrote it wasn't professional)
 
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Link for deniers:
BURAK BEKD

You see it is not todayszaman :)

I am waiting for Turkish military industry to deny this report by informed Turkish journalists
:p
 
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Burak bekdil is known for his policy of faulting any military project or procurement.

You can look up for many of his article all faulting projects like the milgem, tfx , f-35, Altay etc. Some based on technological problems, others on budgettaire problems. The simple fact is he's just writing these stuff to be the opposite of the current government.
 
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