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Those are Bedouins of UAE. Nowhere representative for 500 million people let alone the average Emirati. Arabs are some of the most proud people in the world who retain some of the most traces of our ancient culture in this modern era whether it is traditional clothing, traditional pursuits, poetry, art, music, cuisine etc. Bedouin culture is all about being together and collectivism. Eating together in large gatherings and sharing food from the same plate as humans have done since we emerged, is a tiny part of this.

BTW I can see that non-Arabs are present on that photo too. It's probably a gathering during Ramadan or other similar events.

Has absolutely nothing to do with "being civilized" or not. As I wrote the Chinese eat some of the most strange cuisine on the planet yet their IQ is vastly superior to that of Turks and they are also a much more advanced society. Today as well as historically. We can mention the French as well.

BTW I eat chicken with my hands most of the time yet I am highly educated and highly successful with an tested IQ over 140. It must mean that I am not civilized just due to this fact. I sometimes eat fish and seafood with my hands as well.
Eating with hands is the right way to eat.
I use spoon for rice only when I'm lazy to wash hands.

Follow the Bedouin. Some of us call them and others like them "jungle arabis" or "marsh arabis". Not me.

(The actual "marsh arabs" are different, I know.)
 
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stop lying no body like erdogan the clown and yes we fought the ottomans to take our country from turkish Colonists surrender to arabic army in madina that army later kicked ottomans out of arab lands


ottomans They gave up alqudas to british army what a shame


You are a fool. If you think that the Arabs fought the Ottomans without the direction and funding from the British to break and fragment the Muslim Empire. The Arabs were pawns in a greater picture(Sykes-picot anyone?) The rest is just empty bravado.
 
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Eating with hands is the right way to eat.
I use spoon for rice only when I'm lazy to wash hands.

Follow the Bedouin. Some of us call them and others like them "jungle arabis" or "marsh arabis". Not me.

I only use my hands during specific dishes and settings. It's all about the context. However rice dishes containing chicken etc. are perfect for using your hands. Many times it is easier. There is something about eating certain foods with your hands that makes it tastier.

Bedouins and jungles? A world apart although Bedouins were nomadic pastoralists (the Bedouins were proven to cluster most closely genetically with the world's earliest Neolithic communities in the Arab world - Natufian civilization - take a look at that) who mostly were about herding animals, agriculture, fishing (if living near a coast, river or lake), trade, paid guides or the life of a soldier (warrior). Half of the Bedouins were settled for half of the year which is often forgotten from Morocco to Oman. It's a fascinating and complex culture. Probably more complex than all other nomadic/semi-nomadic populations out there in the world.

Speaking about the Marsh Arabs;





Genetically the Marsh Arabs are some of the most "pure" Semites and Middle Easterners out there.

However I have only seen Saudi Arabians score 100% Middle East on DNA tests so far.



@Shogun

I suggest that you stop using the beautiful Saudi Arabian flag as a false-flagger and non-Arab. Just for your own sake.

Moderators (although I do not have any hope) should deal with your likes.
 
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Arabs (people from modern-day KSA) ruled the Islamic Caliphate for 1000 years (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid) from the very beginning until it was stolen in 1517 by the Ottomans. During 95% of all the Islamic conquests and during the heights of the Islamic Golden Age and civilization on all fronts.

Ottomans were highly incompetent in comparison and achieved very little. Not to say neglecting Arab territory for the sake of tiny Balkans inhabited by local Slavs. A fact that the Iraqi Twitter user rightly highlights.

There was no control as most of the Arab world was sovereign including 90% of Arabia. It seems that you are implying that Arabs (despite ruling the longest in the region and despite the forefathers of Arabs creating the greatest and most influential civilizations) need to be ruled by more incompetent foreigners. Maybe Iranians need to be ruled by Semites, Greeks, Arabs, Mongols, Turks and Brits again?

The West colonized the entire world back then including your country de facto. Don't get ahead of yourself.

KSA was never a Western colony and Arabs back then had every right to have 100% sovereignty. Brits had their own plans and ideas. Ottomans were allied with Germans.

To every Arab user on this forum reading this thread and elsewhere. Have the historical butthurt in mind and inferiority complexes. It sits extremely deep in certain people as I only see such reactions from non-Arabs here. Yet to see an Arab make threads about how the Ottomans stole the Caliphate in 1517.




I suggest to stop using the Saudi Arabian flags when you are a foreigner (non-Arab) and false-flagger.

There is no hate nor any love. Neutrality. Islamists in the GCC as well as elsewhere "love" all Muslims while the rest of us know our history and know who are our real friends and who are not. Who want genuine partnerships or who are deluded and want to revive long gone empires. We have Arabs among ourselves who are deluded as well and have dreams of reviving past Arab empires but they are thankfully a minority. It seems when it comes to others this is a bit more widespread if PDF is the proof....



We already know that the world's most visited and famous Western museums are flooded with Arab artifacts and that of our ancient forefathers that created the first civilizations on the planet, but what exactly is the difference here? You are parading Islamic Arab artifacts as if they were your own while you have zero connection to it other than stealing it. No difference at all.

BTW Arab governments and wealthy businessmen are buying our heritage back.

Saudi Arabia retrieves 52,000 historical artefacts since 2011

ARAB NEWS | Published — Sunday 22 October 2017

JEDDAH: The Saudi Commission for Tourism and National Heritage (SCTH) announced that it has successfully retrieved more than 52,000 artefacts from inside and outside the country as part of the National Project for Digital Recording of Antiquities, which follows international standards for archaeological recording and archiving.
The project aims to document and store all historic sites, artefacts, historical monument and urban heritage buildings in a comprehensive national digital registry linked to a multi-dimensional digital map, which is compatible with modern GIS technologies and digital databases, maps, images and graphics.
Director-General of Archiving and Protecting Antiquities at the SCTH, Naif Al-Qannour, said: “The new digital recording project stores detailed information and reports about 32,000 artefacts retrieved from outside the Kingdom and 20,000 returned by citizens to the SCTH since Prince Sultan bin Salman, president of SCTH, launched the campaign to retrieve national artefacts in 2011.”
“Some artefacts found their way outside Saudi Arabia through foreign travelers who moved them to other countries.” Al-Qannour continued, “One of the most famous artefacts is the Tayma Stone, which was discovered by Charles Huber and later on displayed at the Louvre Museum in Paris.”
He also explained that many employees of foreign companies, especially those who work in the oil industry, visited many parts of Saudi Arabia to study their geology and natural manifestations, collected the artefacts they found and took them to national museums at their home countries.
“Robbers of archaeological sites sometimes dig for archaeological treasures and achieve fast financial gains,” Al-Qannour said, “By doing so, they are destroying important archaeological evidence found in these sites, be it on land or in the sea.”
Al-Qannour stated that the SCTH will continue to work on retrieving and protecting artefacts and has released a red list of artefacts stolen from their sites inside Saudi Arabia and information about them in order to make them easier to identify. The SCTH has also announced handing financial rewards to those who return artefacts or report their loss or theft.
In 2011, Prince Sultan launched a campaign for retrieving national artefacts, including media and cultural programs and initiatives that aim to enlighten and inform citizens about the value of artefacts and the importance of returning them to the SCTH.
Recently, the SCTH released a list of 140 names of citizens who returned artefacts, reported archaeological sites or cooperated with the SCTH in protecting the country’s cultural heritage between 2013 and 2017 in order to honor them during the First Antiquities Forum, which will be launched under the patronage of King Salman, on Nov. 7 at the National Museum in Riyadh.



Troll thread indeed. I suggest that Arab users here ignore the barking and make a clear message for foreigners trying to steal our ancient and beautiful lands or lay claim on it. The reply will be breaking the skulls like every occupier eventually found out.

I am out of here.



Arabs and our forefathers created the first civilizations known to mankind and invented science and civilization as it was known for millennia and were pioneers for millennia. As late as during the Islamic Golden Age. Something that your people have never done and never will do. So you should keep quite and not talk about such topics.
That photo is of some Bedouins in UAE. What is your point moron? That eating a rice dish using your hands (which millions of people do across all countries and continents) is somehow less civilized? What do you tell the Chinese who eat some of the most strange cuisine yet are inherently much more clever than your likes (much higher IQ on average) and who are much more advanced as well?


It seems that the moderators are sleeping once again as usual. It is allowed to insult Arabs here on PDF 24/7 but as soon as one of the few remaining Arabs reply in kind, they are banned. What a fucking joke.:lol:
I don't appreciate you saying that I'm not an Arab. In fact I'll bet I'm a more Arab than you with a better lineage. All I said was true and writ in fact. The GCC has been undermining and plotting against Erdogans Turkey since he came into office, and the facts are there for everyone to see, the ruling elite hate what he stands for, they would have.much preferred someone like Ataturk who was secular and westernized rather than somone who was more Islamic.

I also noticed on this forum a lot of boasting and swagger, everyone here thinks he and his people are the best and the rest are shit, all this empty air alludes to a really narrow and irrational way of thinking.

I propose that facts be taken into consideration and nobody take things personally.
 
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I don't appreciate you saying that I'm not an Arab. In fact I'll bet I'm a more Arab than you with a better lineage. All I said was true and writ in fact. The GCC has been undermining and plotting against Erdogans Turkey since he came into office, and the facts are there for everyone to see, the ruling elite hate what he stands for, they would have.much preferred someone like Ataturk who was secular and westernized rather than somone who was more Islamic.

I also noticed on this forum a lot of boasting and swagger, everyone here thinks he and his people are the best and the rest are shit, all this empty air alludes to a really narrow and irrational way of thinking.

I propose that facts be taken into consideration and nobody take things personally.

You are a laughable and pathetic false-flagger that was already exposed due to not understanding the Arabic comments on Twitter. Not going to bother further.

As for undermining, you are out of your mind. Outside of the EU the GCC has been the biggest investor in Turkey and many Turkish firms were given preferential treatment when projects were built over local and foreign ones. While we speak KSA and Turkey have established a new organization that aims at increasing trade, military cooperation, political cooperation etc. Erdogan has visited Kuwait and other GCC states lately. Just too dumb to comment on.

As for your "Islamist nonsense" nobody is interested in it and the second a false-flagger like you started barking about us considering the populist Erdogan as "the leader of Muslims" I started to laugh hysterically. Please save your time and energy on fooling like-minded false-flaggers and don't speak in the name of Saudi Arabians or Arabs when you are clearly detached from the reality.

People with your views (thankfully a tiny minority) are ridiculed in KSA whether in person or on social media. Mullahism and populism is on the losing end. Get that into your empty head.

Troll along on this already troll infested forum. Don't care. Just remove your flags.
 
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Arabs (people from modern-day KSA) ruled the Islamic Caliphate for 1000 years (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimid) from the very beginning until it was stolen in 1517 by the Ottomans. During 95% of all the Islamic conquests and during the heights of the Islamic Golden Age and civilization on all fronts.

Ottomans were highly incompetent in comparison and achieved very little. Not to say neglecting Arab territory for the sake of tiny Balkans inhabited by local Slavs. A fact that the Iraqi Twitter user rightly highlights.

There was no control as most of the Arab world was sovereign including 90% of Arabia. It seems that you are implying that Arabs (despite ruling the longest in the region and despite the forefathers of Arabs creating the greatest and most influential civilizations) need to be ruled by more incompetent foreigners. Maybe Iranians need to be ruled by Semites, Greeks, Arabs, Mongols, Turks and Brits again?

The West colonized the entire world back then including your country de facto. Don't get ahead of yourself.

KSA was never a Western colony and Arabs back then had every right to have 100% sovereignty. Brits had their own plans and ideas. Ottomans were allied with Germans.

To every Arab user on this forum reading this thread and elsewhere. Have the historical butthurt in mind and inferiority complexes. It sits extremely deep in certain people as I only see such reactions from non-Arabs here. Yet to see an Arab make threads about how the Ottomans stole the Caliphate in 1517.




I suggest to stop using the Saudi Arabian flags when you are a foreigner (non-Arab) and false-flagger.

There is no hate nor any love. Neutrality. Islamists in the GCC as well as elsewhere "love" all Muslims while the rest of us know our history and know who are our real friends and who are not. Who want genuine partnerships or who are deluded and want to revive long gone empires. We have Arabs among ourselves who are deluded as well and have dreams of reviving past Arab empires but they are thankfully a minority. It seems when it comes to others this is a bit more widespread if PDF is the proof....



We already know that the world's most visited and famous Western museums are flooded with Arab artifacts and that of our ancient forefathers that created the first civilizations on the planet, but what exactly is the difference here? You are parading Islamic Arab artifacts as if they were your own while you have zero connection to it other than stealing it. No difference at all.

BTW Arab governments and wealthy businessmen are buying our heritage back.

Saudi Arabia retrieves 52,000 historical artefacts since 2011

ARAB NEWS | Published — Sunday 22 October 2017

JEDDAH: The Saudi Commission for Tourism and National Heritage (SCTH) announced that it has successfully retrieved more than 52,000 artefacts from inside and outside the country as part of the National Project for Digital Recording of Antiquities, which follows international standards for archaeological recording and archiving.
The project aims to document and store all historic sites, artefacts, historical monument and urban heritage buildings in a comprehensive national digital registry linked to a multi-dimensional digital map, which is compatible with modern GIS technologies and digital databases, maps, images and graphics.
Director-General of Archiving and Protecting Antiquities at the SCTH, Naif Al-Qannour, said: “The new digital recording project stores detailed information and reports about 32,000 artefacts retrieved from outside the Kingdom and 20,000 returned by citizens to the SCTH since Prince Sultan bin Salman, president of SCTH, launched the campaign to retrieve national artefacts in 2011.”
“Some artefacts found their way outside Saudi Arabia through foreign travelers who moved them to other countries.” Al-Qannour continued, “One of the most famous artefacts is the Tayma Stone, which was discovered by Charles Huber and later on displayed at the Louvre Museum in Paris.”
He also explained that many employees of foreign companies, especially those who work in the oil industry, visited many parts of Saudi Arabia to study their geology and natural manifestations, collected the artefacts they found and took them to national museums at their home countries.
“Robbers of archaeological sites sometimes dig for archaeological treasures and achieve fast financial gains,” Al-Qannour said, “By doing so, they are destroying important archaeological evidence found in these sites, be it on land or in the sea.”
Al-Qannour stated that the SCTH will continue to work on retrieving and protecting artefacts and has released a red list of artefacts stolen from their sites inside Saudi Arabia and information about them in order to make them easier to identify. The SCTH has also announced handing financial rewards to those who return artefacts or report their loss or theft.
In 2011, Prince Sultan launched a campaign for retrieving national artefacts, including media and cultural programs and initiatives that aim to enlighten and inform citizens about the value of artefacts and the importance of returning them to the SCTH.
Recently, the SCTH released a list of 140 names of citizens who returned artefacts, reported archaeological sites or cooperated with the SCTH in protecting the country’s cultural heritage between 2013 and 2017 in order to honor them during the First Antiquities Forum, which will be launched under the patronage of King Salman, on Nov. 7 at the National Museum in Riyadh.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1181431/saudi-arabia

Troll thread indeed. I suggest that Arab users here ignore the barking and make a clear message for foreigners trying to steal our ancient and beautiful lands or lay claim on it. The reply will be breaking the skulls like every occupier eventually found out.

I am out of here.



Arabs and our forefathers created the first civilizations known to mankind and invented science and civilization as it was known for millennia and were pioneers for millennia. As late as during the Islamic Golden Age. Something that your people have never done and never will do. So you should keep quite and not talk about such topics.
That photo is of some Bedouins in UAE. What is your point moron? That eating a rice dish using your hands (which millions of people do across all countries and continents) is somehow less civilized? What do you tell the Chinese who eat some of the most strange cuisine yet are inherently much more clever than your likes (much higher IQ on average) and who are much more advanced as well?


It seems that the moderators are sleeping once again as usual. It is allowed to insult Arabs here on PDF 24/7 but as soon as one of the few remaining Arabs reply in kind, they are banned. What a fucking joke.:lol:

Those are Bedouins of UAE. Nowhere representative for 500 million people let alone the average Emirati. Arabs are some of the most proud people in the world who retain some of the most traces of our ancient culture in this modern era whether it is traditional clothing, traditional pursuits, poetry, art, music, cuisine etc. Bedouin culture is all about being together and collectivism. Eating together in large gatherings and sharing food from the same plate as humans have done since we emerged, is a tiny part of this.

BTW I can see that non-Arabs are present on that photo too. It's probably a gathering during Ramadan or other similar events.

Has absolutely nothing to do with "being civilized" or not. As I wrote the Chinese eat some of the most strange cuisine on the planet yet their IQ is vastly superior to that of Turks and they are also a much more advanced society. Today as well as historically. We can mention the French as well.

BTW I eat chicken with my hands most of the time yet I am highly educated and highly successful with an tested IQ over 140. It must mean that I am not civilized just due to this fact. I sometimes eat fish and seafood with my hands as well.
 
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I suggest that you stop using the beautiful Saudi Arabian flag as a false-flagger and non-Arab. Just for your own sake.

Your DNA test says nothing about being an Arab only about being middle eastern. And you mentioned in the video about one of your grandmothers being Turkish. My friend that disqualifies you from marrying into a real Arab family that belongs to a tribe ( at least it used to), I wouldn't throw stones if I were you. Not that it matters anyway, Islam does not condone this squabble, but you're right the Saudi flag is beautiful because it carries the creed of our religion not because it is the flag of the state, you should brush up on the history of KSA before you talk about things like this.
 
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I suggest that you stop using the beautiful Saudi Arabian flag as a false-flagger and non-Arab. Just for your own sake.

Your DNA test says nothing about being an Arab only about being middle eastern. And you mentioned in the video about one of your grandmothers being Turkish. My friend that disqualifies you from marrying into a real Arab family that belongs to a tribe ( at least it used to), I wouldn't throw stones if I were you. Not that it matters anyway, Islam does not condone this squabble, but you're right the Saudi flag is beautiful because it carries the creed of our religion not because it is the flag of the state, you should brush up on the history of KSA before you talk about things like this.

You are a joke false-flagger.

This below is not me. Just some random Saudi Arabian who did a DNA test in the US and now shares his rare results that show 100% Middle East on Youtube.


Take your pills. You are that Pakistani false-flagger that used the Saudi Arabian flag to troll a while ago. Pathetic.

It's high time to remove those flags.
 
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You are a joke false-flagger.

This below is not me. Just some random Saudi Arabian who did a DNA test in the US and now shares his rare results that show 100% Middle East on Youtube.


Take your pills. You are that Pakistani false-flagger that used the Saudi Arabian flag to troll a while ago. Pathetic.

It's high time to remove those flags.

Then why did you post it?
 
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Then why did you post it?

Read the context false-flagging "genius". It's obvious for every sane person and clearly visible for anyone that understands English.

Because I wanted to prove a point that I was making. So every time a user shares a Youtube video, it must be made by them now?:lol:

Troll along false-flagging Mullah troll.
 
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I will say what every Pakistani thinks and what Pakistan says on international stage but no one listens. That every muslim, arab or non arab, irani or saudi should put away their differences and unite for one common cause. And Im sure a vast majority of muslim commoners would love this. But it is in interest of our rulers to keep us divided.

@Saif al-Arab And if u say that u dont believe in ummah unity etc.
Then look at how christian and jewish world is united. They may not disclose it but they also believe in their ummah!!

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Salahuddin(who was a non arab) also tirelessly made efforts to achieve what I am suggesting. And called all arab states to unite but most were not willing to answer his calls. Some scholars were even giving rulings against doing jihad against crusaders.
 
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Arabs and our forefathers created the first civilizations known to mankind and invented science and civilization as it was known for millennia and were pioneers for millennia. As late as during the Islamic Golden Age. Something that your people have never done and never will do. So you should keep quite and not talk about such topics. That photo is of some Bedouins in UAE. What is your point moron? That eating a rice dish using your hands (which millions of people do across all countries and continents) is somehow less civilized? What do you tell the Chinese who eat some of the most strange cuisine yet are inherently much more clever than your likes (much higher IQ on average) and who are much more advanced as well?

It seems that the moderators are sleeping once again as usual. It is allowed to insult Arabs here on PDF 24/7 but as soon as one of the few remaining Arabs reply in kind, they are banned. What a fucking joke.:lol:

Yeah yeah arabs invented this and that, all of that has been debunked on youtube, you pay actors to lie about arab civilisation and inventions when in reality all those inventions are western.

The only thing you can invent is eating with your hands.
 
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Read the context false-flagging "genius". It's obvious for every sane person and clearly visible for anyone that understands English.

Because I wanted to prove a point that I was making. So every time a user shares a Youtube video, it must be made by them now?:lol:

Troll along false-flagging Mullah troll.

I'm sensing a lot of hostility from you, is it because I spoke ill of the Saudi government? If so, then alot of Saudis share my sentiment I'm not the only one.

Your rhetoric is the same as that of the state, condescending, divisive, arrogant.

Oh and im not a pakistani

حنا بني وايل من سدير من نجد حنا اصل العرب و ساداته يا سلتوح الحكومة
 
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I think we should send back all Arab artifacts. No one wants to see them anyways.
And no Turk would ever pretend to be an Arab.

Being an Arab is nothing to boast about. LOL

Yeah everyone but arabs themselves don't like arabs :sarcastic:

When oil ends, I really wonder what they are going to offer as bribe :)

Bro' I'm sure they would attempt to offer women... BUT... Who would want this? =

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It's like a walking ad for McDonalds :sarcastic:

Hey saif, if Ottomans were here first we had a shield against western invaders, second Palestine/Quds wasn't a Zionist occupied land, third Najdis couldn't betray Muslims. I am no fan of empires but after Ottomans and Safavids collapse, Islamic world was weakened and filled with hired traitors. Only in Iran, we could kick American stooge out, but most of Arabic and Muslim countries are still pawns to US/UK. And with Ale-Saud ruling Arabian peninsula, no colonial powers needs to send soldiers since their lackeys are there to serve them

Don't take it personal, it's a bitter truth

I agree 200% traitors will be traitors and arabs will be arabs.
 
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