Turkey says deployment of Russian defences delayed, but will happen

[BHarwana]

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan previously had said the S-400s would be activated in April but the coronavirus pandemic has focused Turkish efforts on combating the outbreak.

FILE PHOTO: A view shows a new S-400 "Triumph" surface-to-air missile system after its deployment at a military base outside the town of Gvardeysk near Kaliningrad, Russia on March 11, 2019. (Vitaly Nevar / Reuters Archive)
Turkey’s planned deployment of Russian S-400 missile defences has been delayed by the coronavirus outbreak but will ultimately go ahead, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s spokesman said on Thursday, despite Washington’s warnings that Ankara risks US sanctions.

“There has been a delay because of the coronavirus but it will move forward as it was planned,” Ibrahim Kalin told an online meeting hosted by the Atlantic Council, adding that Erdogan had told US. President Donald Trump several times that he was also interested in purchasing US Patriot missiles.

President Erdogan previously had said the S-400s would be activated in April but the coronavirus pandemic has focused Turkish efforts on combating the outbreak.

Making the S-400s operational exposes Turkey to US sanctions under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) legislation designed to punish countries that buy defence equipment from Russia.

That prospect has been conveyed to Ankara multiple times, David Satterfield, US Ambassador to Turkey also told the online panel.

“We made our position quite explicit to President Erdogan, to all the senior leadership of Turkey, and that is the operation of the S-400 system...exposes Turkey to the very significant possibility of Congressional sanctions, both those that invoke the CAATSA legislation, and additional freestanding legislative sanctions.”

“We do not have in our possession the assurances from the government of Turkey that would allow us to mitigate those concerns,” he added.

Deal with Russia

Turkey on April 2017 signed a contract with Russia to acquire the S-400 anti-missile shield after protracted efforts to purchase an air defence missile system from NATO ally US was unsuccessful.

US officials argued the Russian missile defence would be incompatible with NATO systems and expose its fifth generation, the state-of-art F-35 jet to possible Russian subterfuge.

Turkey says the S-400 would not be integrated into the NATO systems and has no chance to pose any threat to the alliance or its armaments.

Ankara has requested a commission to clarify any technical issues. But the US has, so far, not respond to this proposal.

Turkey received its first supply of S-400 missiles last July.

https://www.trtworld.com/turkey/tur...ussian-defences-delayed-but-will-happen-35913

 

[Pax Ottomana]

We're likely waiting for the US elections in the fall. If Trump wins again, we'll get the F-35s (sadly) and tuck the S-400s away for a "rainy day". This will bleed us money and slow down Hurjet and TF-X's development. If Trump loses and Biden wins, US-TR relations will deteriorate further. US support for PKK will increase. Turkish S-400s will be activated. TR and US will go to international arbitration over the F-35s. TF-X and Hurjet programs will gain momentum. We may acquire Su-35s af a stop-gap measure depending on the future status of TR-RU and TR-US relations. Turkey will become more nationalistic and seek closer relations with Russia, China and other powers with their own issues with the US.

 

[Deliorman]

If Turkey with Koral and some cheap Bayraktars managed to decimate Assad/Russian Air Defenses in Idlib 3 months ago I can’t even imagine what a force like USA and even Israel can do to that junk named S-400.

Israelis are raping Assad for breakfast lunch and dinner for years now even though he is protected by god knows how many S-300s, S-400s, S-200s, Pantsirs, Tors, Buks and etc but some people in Turkey still want to believe that S-400 are some kind of a super weapon everyone is scared from or something. I can assure you that if a war breaks out that this junk will be nothing but scrap in minutes if sheit hits the fan.

I as a guy from a former communist state know one thing for sure- Russian tech is nothing but an inferior junk in 95% of the cases.

ps A nice new make over @Vord... or Pax Ottomans or whatever. If Turkey was getting the F-35s you would now be jerking your dicky off on how good and amazing the plane is... But the grape is always sour when you can’t reach it.

 

[damm1t]

I as a guy from a former communist state know one thing for sure- Russian tech is nothing but an inferior junk in 95% of the cases.

Yea right let's have the super duper F-35s which can be turned off via a satellite command if we reject Trump's orders not to meddle in Libya, don't drill gas in Med. Sea, let Greece have 12 mile sea, don't bomb PKK/YPG etc. I would prefer a semi-working piece of junk rather than a non-working piece of junk. I will be %100 glad if S-400s fill the urgent gap succesfully till we get our systems matured enough.

Google the story when British (Or some other European, can't remember) pilot entered wrong password on F35 and lock all the systems before the take off. They made Lockheed unlock the plane via remote commands from the Usa.

If Turkey with Koral and some cheap Bayraktars managed to decimate Assad/Russian Air Defenses in Idlib 3 months ago I can’t even imagine what a force like USA and even Israel can do to that junk named S-400.

Even Turkey? Koral and TB2s are battle proven systems which conducted succesful operations under heavy EW and AD conditions and destroyed nearly half of a country's army in couple of days. If you feel low with your country's success change your god damn avatar. Not sure even if you are more Bulgarian than Turkish, or none.

 

[Oublious]

Yea right let's have the super duper F-35s which can be turned off via a satellite command if we reject Trump's orders not to meddle in Libya, don't drill gas in Med. Sea, let Greece have 12 mile sea, don't bomb PKK/YPG etc. I would prefer a semi-working piece of junk rather than a non-working piece of junk. I will be %100 glad if S-400s fill the urgent gap succesfully till we get our systems matured enough.

Google the story when British (Or some other European, can't remember) pilot entered wrong password on F35 and lock all the systems before the take off. They made Lockheed unlock the plane via remote commands from the Usa.



Even Turkey? Koral and TB2s are battle proven systems which conducted succesful operations under heavy EW and AD conditions and destroyed nearly half of a country's army in couple of days. If you feel low with your country's success change your god damn avatar. Not sure even if you are more Bulgarian than Turkish, or none.

Still not understanding the fact that America can use it CAATSA card every time we work against American interest. Like you mentioned gas drilling in the Med sea. Patriot failed several times in KSA, low flying cruise missiles from Yemen destroyed oil facillities. Aren't they junk to? F35 is means totally control of USA. One day may come when Tuaf is stranded because of CAATSA. Short term vision.

Or EUROSAM, look to Libya and how France almos stopped the project. We did not even started the project, only on paper. And people are crying about Russians. Sure they are not better, but the are for now best options.