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Turkish submarine super power

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Turkish engineers have developed a new power generation system that uses carbon dioxide as fuel. The first prototype to be built in 2017 will take the submarine's diving endurance to 90 days from the actual 5 days in Turkish submarines. The system takes up little space and is quiet.

The duration of Turkish submarine underwater is extended to 90 days from 5 days. Turkish engineers are working on a compressed power generation system that uses compressed carbon dioxide, and in the event of a miscarriage, submarine-free underwater submarines registered to the TSK inventory will reach the level of nuclear submarines. İdealab, operating in Teknopark Istanbul, provides a more efficient and high-intensity power generation compared to traditional motor systems with its innovative power generation system, which uses carbon dioxide gas. With the submarine adaptation of the system, submarine's underwater life will increase exponentially

WORKS IN AMERICA
Turkey's submarine is finally able to remain underwater for 15 days without a snorkel while working with the fuel cell from Germany. Submarines working with nuclear reactors can only be produced by countries such as the US and Russia. These submarines using nuclear fuel can stay under the sea for 3 months. The power system to be produced by Idealab will provide 90 days underwater by providing equivalent energy to nuclear fuel. With this system that will have a mileage of 15 thousand kilometers, Turkey will gain a strategic power and jump this class in the field. Countries such as America, Germany and South Korea also work intensively on power systems that use carbon dioxide gas. The US Department of Energy and the renowned engine manufacturer maintain their highest level of funding for six years of pilot applications. In spite of this, Turkey is taking the lead in this area.

LESS PLACE OF 25 FLASH ADVANTAGES
The most important feature of the system is 25 times less space than normal motor and power systems. This advantage is very critical for submarines. The system that will cover a torpedo-sized area will have a snorkel-free dive time of 90 days, as well as a 15,000 km range, a highly qualified workforce and a critical pre-requisite for export opportunities. The system can withstand pressures down to a depth of 200 meter

Deeply SILENCE
One of the most strategic points in submarines is sound transmission. The sound of the diesel engine is heard from 2,000 kilometers. Carbon dioxide is powered by fuel, and the sound level is lowered by 20 percent. Idealab Operations Manager Hayri Özturan "When the submarine floats on the water, it becomes a target immediately, a strategic weapon as long as it remains under the water, and the sound emission generated by the submarine has vital importance in terms of detectability".

The power system developed by Turkish engineers is similar to that of steam generating systems. The system, which uses carbon dioxide gas instead of steam, is compressed into a field pump called gas 'supercritical region'. The pressurized gas is then heated by means of a heater.

http://www.ahaber.com.tr/teknoloji/2016/11/20/turk-denizaltisina-super-guc?paging=5
(Translated from Turkish) Some Turkish friends might make a better translation..
 
Turkish submarine super power

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Turkish engineers have developed a new power generation system that uses carbon dioxide as fuel. The first prototype to be built in 2017 will take the submarine's diving endurance to 90 days from the actual 5 days in Turkish submarines. The system takes up little space and is quiet.

The duration of Turkish submarine underwater is extended to 90 days from 5 days. Turkish engineers are working on a compressed power generation system that uses compressed carbon dioxide, and in the event of a miscarriage, submarine-free underwater submarines registered to the TSK inventory will reach the level of nuclear submarines. İdealab, operating in Teknopark Istanbul, provides a more efficient and high-intensity power generation compared to traditional motor systems with its innovative power generation system, which uses carbon dioxide gas. With the submarine adaptation of the system, submarine's underwater life will increase exponentially

WORKS IN AMERICA
Turkey's submarine is finally able to remain underwater for 15 days without a snorkel while working with the fuel cell from Germany. Submarines working with nuclear reactors can only be produced by countries such as the US and Russia. These submarines using nuclear fuel can stay under the sea for 3 months. The power system to be produced by Idealab will provide 90 days underwater by providing equivalent energy to nuclear fuel. With this system that will have a mileage of 15 thousand kilometers, Turkey will gain a strategic power and jump this class in the field. Countries such as America, Germany and South Korea also work intensively on power systems that use carbon dioxide gas. The US Department of Energy and the renowned engine manufacturer maintain their highest level of funding for six years of pilot applications. In spite of this, Turkey is taking the lead in this area.

LESS PLACE OF 25 FLASH ADVANTAGES
The most important feature of the system is 25 times less space than normal motor and power systems. This advantage is very critical for submarines. The system that will cover a torpedo-sized area will have a snorkel-free dive time of 90 days, as well as a 15,000 km range, a highly qualified workforce and a critical pre-requisite for export opportunities. The system can withstand pressures down to a depth of 200 meter

Deeply SILENCE
One of the most strategic points in submarines is sound transmission. The sound of the diesel engine is heard from 2,000 kilometers. Carbon dioxide is powered by fuel, and the sound level is lowered by 20 percent. Idealab Operations Manager Hayri Özturan "When the submarine floats on the water, it becomes a target immediately, a strategic weapon as long as it remains under the water, and the sound emission generated by the submarine has vital importance in terms of detectability".

The power system developed by Turkish engineers is similar to that of steam generating systems. The system, which uses carbon dioxide gas instead of steam, is compressed into a field pump called gas 'supercritical region'. The pressurized gas is then heated by means of a heater.

http://www.ahaber.com.tr/teknoloji/2016/11/20/turk-denizaltisina-super-guc?paging=5
(Translated from Turkish) Some Turkish friends might make a better translation..

Turkey has made quite major strides esp in field of defence in just short time. Congratulations Turkey.
 
Is the system at a ready-for-industry state or it is just a successful experimentation of initial research ?
And could you also tell what are the noise levels of a nuclear propelled submarine ?
 
Its true. Savunma sanayi confirmed. Already posted before at TÜRK naval thread page 157.

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if this companies offer is accepted by SSM, The working prototype is gonna be ready for 2023.

20 Kasım 2016 Pazar
Türk denizaltısına süper güç


Kasım 20, 2016 Murat Palavar - Yeni Şafak

Türk mühendisleri yakıtı karbondioksit olan yeni bir güç üretim sistemi geliştirdi. 2017'de ilk prototipi yapılacak sistem, denizaltılarda 5 gün olan deniz altında kalma süresini 90 güne çıkartacak. Sistem hem az yer kaplıyor hem de sessiz.

Türk denizaltılarının deniz altında kalma süresi 5 günden 90 gün gibi rekor bir süreye çıkarılıyor. Türk mühendislerinin üzerinde çalıştıkları sıkıştırılmış karbondioksit kullanan güç üretim sistemi, hayata geçtiğinde TSK envanterine kayıtlı denizaltılarda snorkelsiz su altında kalma süresi nükleer denizaltılar seviyesine çıkacak. Teknopark İstanbul'da faaliyet gösteren İdealab, karbondioksit gazını kullanarak oluşturduğu yenilikçi güç üretim sistemi ile geleneksel motor sistemlerine göre daha verimli ve yüksek yoğunluklu bir güç üretimi sağlıyor. Sisteminin denizaltılara uyarlanmasıyla denizaltıların suyun altında kalma süresi katlanarak artacak.

AMERİKA DA ÇALIŞIYOR

Türkiye son olarak Almanya'dan aldığı sistem yakıt hücresi ile çalıştığı halde snorkelsız olarak 15 gün sualtında kalabiliyor. Nükleer reaktör ile çalışan denizaltıları ise sadece ABD ve Rusya gibi ülkeler üretebiliyor. Nükleer yakıt kullanan bu denizaltılar 3 ay denizin altında kalabiliyor. İdealab tarafından üretilecek güç sistemi ise nükleer yakıta eşdeğer bir enerji sağlayarak 90 gün su altında kalmayı sağlayacak. 15 bin kilometre menzile sahip olacak bu sistem ile Türkiye stratejik bir güç kazanarak bu alanda sınıf atlayacak. Karbondioksit gazını kullanan güç sistemleri üzerinde Amerika, Almanya ve Güney Kore gibi ülkeler de yoğun olarak çalışıyor. Amerika Enerji Bakanlığı ve ünlü motor üretici firmalara 6 yıl sürecek pilot uygulamalar için fonlamalarını en yüksek seviyelerde sürdürüyor. Buna karşın Türkiye bu alanda daha önde yol alıyor.

25 kat daha az yer avantajı sağlıyor

Sistemin en önemli özelliği normal motor ve güç sistemlerine göre 25 kat daha az yer kaplaması. Sağlanan bu avantaj denizaltılar için çok kritik özelliğe sahip. Torpido büyüklüğü kadar bir alana kaplayacak sistem snorkelsiz dalma süresini 90 güne çıkartmasının yanında, 15 bin km menzil, yüksek nitelikli iş gücü istihdamı ve ihracat imkanlarını da sağlaması açısından kritik öneme sahip. Sistem Bin 200 metrelik derinliklerdeki basınca dayanabiliyor.


Derinliklere sessizlik katacak

Denizaltılarda en stratejik noktalardan biri ses yayınımı. Dizel motorun sesi 2 bin kilometreden duyuluyor. Karbondioksit yakıt ile çalışan güç düzeni ise sesi 20'da bire indiriyor. İdealab Operasyon Müdürü Hayri Özturan “Denizaltı suyun üzerine çıktığı zaman hemen hedef oluyor. Suyun altında kaldığı sürece stratejik bir silah. Denizaltının oluşturduğu ses yayınımı ise tespit edilebilirlik açısından hayati öneme sahip" diye konuştu.

Karbondioksit gazı sıkıştırılıyor

Türk mühendislerinin geliştirdiği güç sistemi, buharlı üretim yapan sistemlere benzerlik gösteriyor. Buhar yerine karbondioksit gazı kullanılan sistem, gaz 'süper kritik bölge' olarak adlandırılan alanda bir pompada sıkıştırılıyor. Sonra bir ısıtıcı vasıtası ile basınçlandırılmış gaz ısıtılıyor.

http://www.yenisafak.com/ekonomi/turk-denizaltisina-super-guc-2567042
 
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If this does go into full production and implementable then it's going to be a very big achievement for our Naval research. The u-214 is stated as the last submarines we buy and then milden hopefully.
 
translation is poor, can anyone provide more accurate & efficient one? :angel:

it seems very soon Turkish Navy submarines gonna house the system. its gonna hapen.

because, as far as I know, turkish recent defense hardware & software projects r wholly application based. there's no time & fund to b wasted in experimental systems. previous successful projects was tagged with vendors who're already has existing systems, upon which turkey can develop it's very own one. every such project ssm ended up on an operational model. MBT Altay, MilGem, CiRiT, UMTAS, Hisar-O & A, Gokturk, MPT-76, TF-100, Hurkus etc. r the examples.

Is the system at a ready-for-industry state or it is just a successful experimentation of initial research ?
And could you also tell what are the noise levels of a nuclear propelled submarine ?
 
translation is poor, can anyone provide more accurate & efficient one? :angel:

Translation is more or less adequate. Except CO2 is not used as a fuel but as the system fluid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercritical_fluid

System in principal more or less works like a steam turbine....but instead of steam it uses CO2.

There is only a conceptual design....although company says, it gonna produce a working prototype in 2017.

About 15.000 km range..... it is not entirely true.
- 800 km with 20 knot
- 1600 km with 10 knot
- 12600 km with 4 knot
https://tyrannosurusrex.wordpress.com/2016/11/22/tsk-icin-stratejik-bir-guc-uretim-sistemi-yolda/
 
Conrats Turk brothers, May you always prosper and play a preeminent role in the region. Ameen

Its easy to see why everyone is bitching about us. They will be friendly after all they have to. im getting nasty thoughts. :chilli:
 
Its easy to see why everyone is bitching about us. They will be friendly after all they have to. im getting nasty thoughts. :chilli:

Let them babble, just ignore the barking and keep doing what you're doing brother. Czar used to bark at Ottoman empire and refer it as sick man of Europe, the Europeans used to bitch a lot too. The enemies will always continue to bark. Erdogan has made Turkey a significant regional power , it is time Turkey resurges to its original place in international comity of nations. Hearts and prayers of Pakistan and its people will always march with you.

Note: Please ignore fake false flaggers on this forum, they might be using Pak flags, but we know which country they are from.
 

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