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Turkey leaks secret locations of US, French troops in Syria

Turkey’s state news agency on Tuesday published the locations of secret US military bases in Syria as well as details on the numbers of US and French troops stationed there, sparking the ire of fellow NATO member states.

In the latest display of tensions between Turkey and other NATO member nations, Turkey’s state-run Anadolu news agency earlier this week published a detailed report of the secret locations of US military bases, operational posts and military posts inside Syria. The 620-word news report also included the numbers of US soldiers and French special forces stationed at these locations.

The unprecedented leaking of sensitive battlefield information by the state-run news agency obviously had official Turkish backing, according to Jasper Mortimer, FRANCE 24’s Turkey correspondent.

“It certainly was intentional. Anadolu agency is the hand-servant of the [Turkish] government. It would not have published this report without the green light from the top of government,” explained Mortimer, reporting from Ankara, adding that the revelation of troop numbers was particularly serious. “War correspondents do not give the number of troops in the unit to which they are attached. That is seen as giving information to the enemy. But here, Anadolu agency appears to have done exactly that.”

‘Advertising’ battlefield secrets

The report, “US increases military posts supporting PKK/PYD in Syria,” lists US positions in Kurdish administered area of northern Syria and is the latest display of Ankara’s ire over Washington’s support for the PYD (Democratic Union Party), which Turkey views as the Syrian affiliate of the proscribed Turkish PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party).

The PYD is the political umbrella of the YPG (People’s Protection Units) which part of the US-led military operations against the Islamic State (IS) group in the region.

“Turkey sees the YPG as an affiliate of the PKK and Turkey has long called on Washington to withdraw support for them. But there’s a difference between calling on America to withdraw support and actually advertising the details of that support,” said Mortimer.

The US denies working with Kurdish separatists and maintains the YPG is part of the SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces), which includes a large component of Arab troops.

French special forces on the ground

The leaked details of US positions inside Syria include three US military posts in the northern Syrian province of Raqqa, home to the IS group’s de facto capital.

The report mentions the presence of US and French special forces stationed in a military post located on a hill south of Kurdish-administered town of Kobani. At a military base in Ayn Issah, a town in northern Raqqa, troops included “200 US soldiers and 75 French special forces units,” the report added.

Operational capacities of the locations, including bases that are large enough for military helicopters and cargo planes are also detailed, as well as weapons arsenal that include artillery batteries, rocket launchers and armored vehicles.

Lives at risk, says Pentagon

The report sparked strong condemnations from the US Defense and State Departments on Wednesday, with the Pentagon warning that the leaks could put lives at risk.

"The release of sensitive military information exposes coalition forces to unnecessary risk and has the potential to disrupt ongoing operations to defeat ISIS," Pentagon spokesman Eric Pahon told reporters on Wednesday, using another acronym for the IS group.

French officials have not yet responded to the Turkish news report. When contacted by FRANCE 24, a French foreign ministry press officer said an official statement was not expected on Thursday.

The latest Anadolu report marks another step in the deterioration of US-Turkey relations, with Ankara accusing Washington of failing to expedite the extradition of Pennsylvania-based Turkish cleric, Fethullah Gulen. Ankara blames Gulen for masterminding the July 15, 2016 coup attempt, a charge Gulen denies.

Tensions have also been simmering between Turkish military and NATO officials based in Brussels. Turkey is NATO’s only Muslim-majority member with the alliance’s second-largest standing army. In December 2016, NATO’s top commander, Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti warned of a “degradation” of the alliance’s command operations following Turkey’s dismissal of “talented, capable” senior Turkish military officials in massive purges after the July 2016 coup attempt.

http://www.france24.com/en/20170720-turkey-usa-military-leaks-french-troops-syria

http://www.france24.com/en/20170720-turkey-usa-military-leaks-french-troops-syria

First of all, military bases can be moved, and military personell and equipment can be moved/upgraded where necessary as well.
The signal that the Turks and Iranians are handing out is the latest attempt to start up not just one, but a series of nuclear weapons programs all over the Middle East. If Iran gets ICBM nuke capability, it not only causes fear and aggression in Israeli heads, it will also bother at least Saudi Arabia and Egypt to have a nuclear weapons program of their own. Such was the status quo all the way from 2006 to 2015's peace deal between the US and Iran.

The Turks should not use the PKK which is a terrorist organisation to them, but also part of the freedom fighter groups in Syria, as a way of getting grips on the moral highground. Each time they try, they achieve the opposite.

The Turks had also better respect the decades-long status-quo of nuclear non-proliferation, and refrain from drawing attentions to their (in my eyes at least) foolish wishes. They should recognize, publicly, that all the Syrian refugees in Turkish refugee camps, have a desire to return home to Syria, but only after the war there has ended and new homes have been built for them. What the Turks do not have to do is pay for Syrian refugee camps on their land, with their own state's tax money. Let that money come from aid organisations like the Red Crescent and Red Cross and Doctors Without Borders, etc.

Modern sanctions against Iran's nuclear program, were used effectively and without harming innocent lives too much, from at least 2010 to 2015. They've proven an effective peaceful tool to change the minds of government officials and a nations' elites groups, and can not be compared to the sanctions the Iraqis had to unfortunately endure before the invasion to remove Saddam Hussain from power.

Muslims want to rule their own lands, without the presence of US forces or foreign forces from anywhere for that matter. That is understandable. But only up to the point where you're not stockpiling weapons of mass-destruction. In our day and age, it's *only* muslim governments who have used weapons of mass-destruction as actual tools of war, on other humans.

So, recognizing that Iran and Turkey are now teamed-up to develop an Iranian nuclear weapons capability, what can we in the West do to prevent information-sharing like was just demonstrated by the Turks, from becoming commonplace or a weekly/monthly event?
You make the Turks pay, and get them on a specialized sanctions program of their own.
(1 sanctions program please, fullly flexible and able to respond rapidly to changes in the massmedia- and specialized-news, *PER COUNTRY* or *PER TRIBE*).
And ofcourse, the sanctions program gets a little bit more tight (kinda like thumbscrews, but for all elites and leadership groups of a country/tribe) with each new 'news-offense'.

See, today, you have a bunch of military bases run by US and EU soldiers, *spread out* over the middle east.
The last thing you want is large-scale confrontation like happened in the 1960s in Vietnam or in the 2000s in Syria,
all over that territory that is now *secured BY these US+EU military bases*.
For the same reason, you dont go leaking details about these bases anymore either. No matter who is running such peace-forces bases, ok?!.

There are three more factors in this story that i have to re-mention :
(1) Iran has advocated regularly that they would like to see a world without nuclear weapons.

(1a) That is simply impossible, look up the terms 'nuclear deterrent', 'brinkmanship', and 'MAD-principle', which stands for 'Mutually Assured Destruction'-principle. principle means 'law of nature' in this case.

(1b) ..... (1a) also implies that people like me, and the entire EU + US leadership groups, are fine with Israel having a nuclear arsenal, and the Arab/Muslim nations near to them, NOT.
Israelis are trying to stay peaceful whenever they can, and as much as they can, but they do have the factor of young Arabs growing up and spending their 20s to 30s fighting the Israelis in a stone-throwing vs rubber-bullet + teargas 'war'. Now, that level of tension is *manageable*. And a status-quo i'll defend.

(1c) ... if you say The Quran is Holy for you, i'm fine with that, all i ask is that you recognize that to *me* at least, The Talmud of the Jewish people is Holy to a large percentage of Jews, and The Bible is Holy for me as a Catholic Christian.

(2) Muslim nations want to be allowed to create whatever technology stack that they want. Sometimes, you can't get what you want, not even as a whole country united-about-something.

(2a) you can't claim you want to cure your people's cancer-disease problems by means of nuclear centrifuges making a certain nuclear isotope (a material) for medicinal purposes, *while the same centrifuges* can be used to enrich nuclear material to weapons grade nuclear material.

(3) The war in Syria is now turning into a 'proxy war' where the rest of the Middle Eastern countries try to gain something in powerplays and brinkmanship-rounds.. (like boxing match rounds)..
Is this how you want to end up in the history books, Muslim leaders? Coz it's kinda like the dark-ages was in Europe, the situations you create for your own peoples in these modern times in your own countries and the countries you neighbor.

crossposted/reposted this at http://forums.marokko.nl/showthread.php?t=5573382&p=132671112#post132671112
original story at http://www.france24.com/en/20170720-turkey-usa-military-leaks-french-troops-syria
 
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exec-sum : told 'm to back off, not do this again, etc. in the level of detail they need over there in the middle east.

in reply to : http://www.france24.com/en/20170720-turkey-usa-military-leaks-french-troops-syria

at

http://forums.marokko.nl/showthread.php?t=5573382&p=132671112&viewfull=1#post132671112

and

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turkey-leaks-secret-locations-of-us-french-troops-in-syria.508273/

{ contents of defence.pk post nearly identical to my forums.marokko.nl post listed above here, is not included in this 'receipt-message' }
 
I won't be surprised if Turkey leaked all NATO secrets if it has already not done so. Seems like Turkey is in the process of ditch NATO & EU.
 
If Turkey ditches NATO, then you can be sure that E Euro's won't be far behind.
 
Here it is:
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"The Pentagon says it can’t independently determine where Anadolu got the information." Of course, they can't.
 
I won't be surprised if Turkey leaked all NATO secrets if it has already not done so. Seems like Turkey is in the process of ditch NATO & EU.

Could be. But i bet they get more done (Turkey, Iran, etc, etc) with wording that expresses their desires in a lightly-humerous way, rather than in threats they can't turn into reality to begin with.

Here it is:
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"The Pentagon says it can’t independently determine where Anadolu got the information." Of course, they can't.
lesson to learn (for some) : those troops and bases are there to protect you from evils far worse than having foreign bases in your lands..
 
BREAKING: Israel has closed its embassy and consulates in Turkey....
 
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