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Both countries lack identity and self-awareness it seems like they don't know who they are and what they are its kinda strange sometimes.

They are universally hated because of Islam and even if they are not muslims they are hated because there forefathers were muslims and this will never change no matter what they do. It's destiny and fitra.

It's is a for gone conclusion but I see them trying to have their policies align with people who want to see them gone no matter what. They are viewed as expendables universally and the majority of the world is secretly praying for their exit of this world all-together.

You either accept who you are or you seize to exist. There will never be in between for some people
 
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I think I understand you!

Turkey must not join EU - that would be end of Turkey. It should remain independent and build its sphere of influence. It is a genuine regional superpower.

Pakistan is weakened because of corruption and lack of social development.

In the same sense places like Australia, Canada have no identity either. They are confused between being English colony or a independent of its colonial era - look at the Australia flag for clues.
 
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I disagree. The Turks have a long history and they are completely comfortable with who they are.

The only people who can't accept Pakistani identity are those who are unhappy with what they consider to be Pakistani identity.

I would say the turks are even way more worse then the pakistanis.

They have become to much westerners it's like someone who dosen't know who he is like literally. The world is waiting to see them go forever this is the popular census
 
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we paksitaniz are a new nation may be u can say that about us. even though it can be argued but i'll accept we are making a new identiy differnt from our indian history.

But you are dead wrong about turkey. if turkey lacks identity then there is no nation on earth that has identity. Turkey has the mother of all identities . Turkey is Turkey.
 
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we paksitaniz are a new nation may be u can say that about us. even though it can be argued but i'll accept we are making a new identiy differnt from our indian history.

But you are dead wrong about turkey. if turkey lacks identity then there is no nation on earth that has identity. Turkey has the mother of all identities . Turkey is Turkey.

Have you been to Turkey before? have you seen their media, Tv and public figures? That old Turkey is not this turkey. The change is so vast it's mindblowing. They have lost themselves and their identity more then anyone I would say in the muslim world
 
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Pakistani people on the whole know what their identity is and they are comfortable with it. But there is a small segment of sell outs called lib-tards, they hate Islam and Pakistan's identity and they spread all sorts of disinformation and try to project a confused image otherwise just look how the nation got united on Feb 26-27 India-Pak conflict.
 
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Both countries lack identity and self-awareness it seems like they don't know who they are and what they are its kinda strange sometimes.

They are universally hated because of Islam and even if they are not muslims they are hated because there forefathers were muslims and this will never change no matter what they do. It's destiny and fitra.

It's is a for gone conclusion but I see them trying to have their policies align with people who want to see them gone no matter what. They are viewed as expendables universally and the majority of the world is secretly praying for their exit of this world all-together.

You either accept who you are or you seize to exist. There will never be in between for some people

wtf are you going on about?

Pakistani people on the whole know what their identity is and they are comfortable with it. But there is a small segment of sell outs called lib-turds (faecal matter, shit), they hate Islam and Pakistan's identity and they spread all sorts of disinformation and try to project a confused image otherwise just look how the nation got united on Feb 26-27 India-Pak conflict.

spot on
 
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Have you been to Turkey before? have you seen their media, Tv and public figures? That old Turkey is not this turkey. The change is so vast it's mindblowing. They have lost themselves and their identity more then anyone I would say in the muslim world
And have you been to Turkey, where and for how long? To say that Turks lost their identity is ridiculous. Go everywhere in the world you want but the Turks will always be different from the other and it will be clear that they are Turks. I have a Bulgarian friend who recognizes Turks just by looking at them let alone talking to a Turk or anything else. If for you to be modern and living according to today's standard is losing your identity no its not. As before the Adhan is loud and the flag is high.
 
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We know our identity we dont need any Non Turks explaining how to be a Turk.

Turks are Westernised? somebody should perhaps visit Turkey one day starting from Istanbul all the way to Diyarbakir.

Not everybody is westernised the country itself is diverse in everything hence why it is the bridge between Europe and Asia.
 
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They are viewed as expendables universally and the majority of the world is secretly praying for their exit of this world all-together.
Wishful thinking, no one can brush aside any one any more. This is only possible in a dooms day scenario. Or unless we parish all together.
 
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And have you been to Turkey, where and for how long? To say that Turks lost their identity is ridiculous. Go everywhere in the world you want but the Turks will always be different from the other and it will be clear that they are Turks. I have a Bulgarian friend who recognizes Turks just by looking at them let alone talking to a Turk or anything else. If for you to be modern and living according to today's standard is losing your identity no its not. As before the Adhan is loud and the flag is high.
Have known Turks for more than 20 years. All they have for us is brotherly love. We love them back. They are a proud nation.
 
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