TTP commander Umar Khorasani injured in Afghanistan

[RescueRanger]

I heard they use it for ****, @DESERT FIGHTER might be able to confirm, I heard someone say that when Pakistan army liberated Swat, they found Pornographic material in Taliban bunkers.

In one famous case more than 60 gigs of the stuff

 

[Pakistani patriot]

none of your concern

also it's actually NATO and the foreign rulers taking these people out. Had we left it to Afghans and ANA this game would still have been played the way they played it since 1947.
Indian consulates in Afghanistan ring a bell.
It's due to the foreign rulers coming to a conclusion that if they want Pakistan to do certain things, they (foreign rulers of Afghanistan) have to do certain things in Afghanistan.
otherwise they could have taken these people out a long long time ago.
things have changed.

 

[srshkmr]

I heard they use it for ****, @DESERT FIGHTER might be able to confirm, I heard someone say that when Pakistan army liberated Swat, they found Pornographic material in Taliban bunkers.

These guys are really one messed up bunch . if they use Internet why not trace their IP Address and bomb them

 

[Zibago]

These guys are really one messed up bunch . if they use Internet why not trace their IP Address and bomb them

giant secret caves in mountains and afghan sims make it hard

These guys are really one messed up bunch . if they use Internet why not trace their IP Address and bomb them

they found **** dvd,s ttp hd mein dekhti hay

 

[srshkmr]

giant secret caves in mountains and afghan sims make it hard
they found **** dvd,s ttp hd mein dekhti hay

Most probably Those Pigs are watching Pigs or Donkeys

 

[suresh1773]

We do understand this ...Mukhti Bahini and LTTE were also your concern !

Our concern,when did they became our concern?

. Are u still in 1971

 

[Zibago]

Most probably Those Pigs are watching Pigs or Donkeys

or queer po@@
stoned talib commander + teenage sucide bomber = laka poi poi

 

[janon]

Then you must be really thrilled to find out what the white house has officially stated about this over and over again:

Pakistan govt knew nothing of Osama refuge: US - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
Govt was not aware of Osama's presence: Panetta - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
BBC News - US: No evidence senior Pakistanis knew about Bin Laden
No reason to believe Pakistanis knew of Osama’s presence, says US - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

The last article in particular is the most recent statement from the white house and is only from 2014. I am not sure you know that white house is the highest office in the US.

This throws every conspiracy theory you can come up with out of the window, unless you want to look incredibly retarded and hypocritical to come up with conspiracy theories in this thread but cry about conspiracy theories in other thread.

Not to mention the blatant and patent faulty analogy with the "Washington has never officially stated that the sun rises in the east either." statement. As if the two can even be remotely compared.

So we can both agree the massive incompetence of your security and intelligence agencies? That they did not have a clue about the world's most wanted man living in their military cantonment, but foreigners had enough intel to do a military strike against him?

So it's not collusion, just incompetence. Good, that should make you proud.

Indians due to to their low intellect claim that groups like TTP shouldn't be given sanctuaries however their defense minister things that India should use TTP against state of Pakistan

Link or STFU.

this operation Zarb e Azb is the first and only of its kind that is being conducted in NWA.

PA has been battling the demons it created for at least ten years now.

Yeah we can see towards success of your operations against Maoists in India since past 4-5 decades

Only police forces have been fighting Maoists. No military operation has ever been undertaken against them. Ever. And the maoists don't control us like the islamist groups control and dictate you. I can understand your desire to draw parity with India, but it just makes you look pathetic, if you claim that India's law and order issues have the same magnitude as Pakistan's existential threats.

Since you are presenting yourself as an official representative of US govt

Except that I didn't. You said that the US has never claimed something, and I said that they have never claimed another thing. It doesn't make either of us the official representatives. Funny you should reason so fallaciously in a post full of jibes about "low intellect". Projection, much?

Psychological projection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And if we go by statements of highest Pakistani officials then the uncivilized state of India is still supporting terrorists in different forms.

Ulta chor kotwal ko daante.

Pakistan is the breeding ground, university, and retirement home for terrorists. Their paradise, their sanctuary. It is not India that is world renowned for that.

 

[suresh1773]

@Areesh @janon Please don't make a comparrison or try to draw a parity with India. The amount of people killed by extremists including civilians would be somewhat pale in comparison WITH what the maoists have done. The extremists have also attacked foreign tourist including sport persons(Sri Lankans) & even bombed some of the foreign Embassies. The extremists are also responsible for abduction & killing of polio workers,destroying girls schools & leashed a wave of terror forcing the minorities(Shias,Hazaras) to seek Asylum in foreign countries(Sri Lanka,Australlia)

 

[janon]

@Areesh @janon Please don't make a comparrison or try to draw a parity with India. The amount of people killed by extremists including civilians would be somewhat pale in comparison WITH what the maoists have done. The extremists have also attacked foreign tourist including sport persons(Sri Lankans) & even bombed some of the foreign Embassies. The extremists are also responsible for abduction & killing of polio workers,destroying girls schools & leashed a wave of terror forcing the minorities(Shias,Hazaras) to seek Asylum in foreign countries(Sri Lanka,Australlia)

I know, that's what I was telling Areesh - stop trying to draw parity with India. He won't, it gives him (and most of them) a psychological satisfaction to pretend parity. No matter how many renowned terrorists get killed by USA in Pakistan, they will say "There is a colonel Purohi in India" (who BTW was nabbed by Indian police.) No matter how much islamist terrorist groups devastate their country in perpetual war, they will talk about the "red corridor", as if it is comparable.

 

[SMC]

So we can both agree the massive incompetence of your security and intelligence agencies? That they did not have a clue about the world's most wanted man living in their military cantonment, but foreigners had enough intel to do a military strike against him?

So it's not collusion, just incompetence. Good, that should make you proud.

Yadi yadda.. how were the Americans doing on 9/11 or your own country in Nov 2008 when you allowed terrorists to sneak through a large sea into your country. These lapses happen, which is why Americans are over this but bharatis will keep bringing this up forever but never look into the mirror.

 

[janon]

Yadi yadda.. how were the Americans doing on 9/11 or your own country in Nov 2008 when you allowed terrorists to sneak through a large sea into your country. These lapses happen, which is why Americans are over this but bharatis will keep bringing this up forever but never look into the mirror.

I'm sure you know that neither of the former are comparable to the latter. But sure, like all other Pakistanis, if you want to say "you are just like us" to comfort yourself, by all means, do so.

The fact of the matter is that Mr OBL was living in a Pakistani military cantonment, and you say your army or ISI had no clue about it, and yet the Americans had detailed intel - enough to nuetralize him. If ISI predicted 9/11 or 26/11 but CIA and RAW failed, then you can make a comparison. Besides, in both 9/11 and 26/11, the perpetrators came from outside, and were not living happily in our own cantonments with wives and children and grandchildren.

Logically there are only two options - collusion, or incompetence. Pick whatever makes you feel better.

 

[SMC]

^^ In 9/11 case the terrorists were living in the US for a long time..

And you mention that Americans had detailed intel, but that was after 10 years of trying to find him... so that makes little difference.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

none of your concern

well to his post the response is from the Americans who have already acknowledged that our military operation has inflicted losses on Afghan taliban as well.

as for LeJ.. sadly they have strong political support and only a low tier murderers have been hanged so far.
and finally LeT. as much as we want to punish the terrorists, the Pakistani justice system takes its time.


@anilindia when you comment about punishment of JuD or actions against LeT please do recall the pictures of our lawyers and judges offering payers for Osama, freeing terrorists from TTP and Red Mosque, kissing murderer of our governor etc. even if the judiciary was not radicalised, it will take time to punish and pressurising Pakistani government doesnt help as its seen as "unfair" on defendant"
you guys praised the Pakistani judiciary and lawyers when it went all out against your main enemy which is Pakistan army but now it is taking its time to give verdict against people you blame for terrorism in India

Logically there are only two options - collusion, or incompetence. Pick whatever makes you feel better.

I take both
how about that eh?

same can apply on NATo , ANA forces that allowed both the OBL and Afghan Taliban high command to flee Tora Bora siege by deliberately leaving one area uncovered,.

the story would have ended right in 2001, 2002.. BUT no.. it wasn't to be

 

[janon]

I take both
how about that eh?

Suits me.

Do tell that to @SMC.

same can apply on NATo , ANA forces that allowed both the OBL and Afghan Taliban high command to flee Tora Bora siege by deliberately leaving one area uncovered,.

the story would have ended right in 2001, 2002.. BUT no.. it wasn't to be

Yes, it was very unfortunate that OBL was able to escape Tora Bora, during a pitched battle. But do you think that having an HVT escape during battle implies the same incompetence as not knowing that the world's most wanted person is living in their own soil, and even worse, their own cantonment?

BTW, I'm not sure how you can use the word "deliberately" there, if you are implying that they deliberately let OBL slip through.

^^ In 9/11 case the terrorists were living in the US for a long time..

And you mention that Americans had detailed intel, but that was after 10 years of trying to find him... so that makes little difference.

Look, if this is simply an effort on your part to salvage some pride, facts be damned, tell me so, and I won't respond. OTOH, if you really need to be walked through this, I can do that as well.

They were not terrorists while they were living there - they had not yet committed any act of terrorism. And they were definitely not the world's most wanted men, like OBL was. 9/11 was something that had never happened before, and to give credit to the Amricans, has never happened since.

And yes, it took them ten years to find OBL living in a military cantonment in Paksitan. But the super duper ISI could not find him in those ten years, although he was living right under their noses, unlike the Americans who were operating half a planet away.