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Trump’s pullout from Paris climate agreement is biggest failure of leadership in American history

WASHINGTON, DC, JUNE 1, 2017 – President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement is the “biggest failure of leadership in American history,” Citizens’ Climate Lobby Executive Director Mark Reynolds said today.

“At this pivotal moment for humanity, when the nations of the world must act together to avoid climate catastrophe, President Trump is saying the United States will no longer be part of that effort,” said Reynolds.

On Thursday, Trump announced that the U.S. would begin the process of withdrawing from the accord that 195 nations agreed to in Paris in 2015. In that agreement countries committed to reducing greenhouse gas emissions to levels that will keep global temperatures from increasing more than 2 degrees centigrade, the threshold most scientists agree should not be crossed.

With the White House abdicating any responsibility to avoid climate disaster, it is imperative for Congress to step into the leadership vacuum and enact effective legislation to reduce carbon pollution. Citizens’ Climate Lobby, along with conservative voices, proposes a market-based solution – a steadily-rising fee on carbon emissions with revenue returned to households.

Less than two weeks after the President’s announcement, 1,000 constituents from across the nation will descend on Capitol Hill to meet with every congressional office and press the case for action on climate change.

Despite the Trump administration’s antipathy to address climate change, there are encouraging signs that Republicans and Democrats can come together in Congress to enact climate solutions. The bipartisan House Climate Solutions Caucus has more than doubled in size since the start of the year and now has 40 members with equal numbers from both sides of the aisle.

“As we’ve seen with the formation and growth of the Climate Solutions Caucus, there are many Republicans who want to solve the climate problem, and we hope more of them will join that endeavor,” said Reynolds.

CONTACT: Steve Valk, www.citizensclimatelobby.org

https://citizensclimatelobby.org/tr...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
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as usual, shows the baffoon he is. We are seeing climate change here over the past 40+years; it is blatently visible. to put a blinder on and appease these lunatic fringe appears to be his style. Well, his resort will have issues with drinking water as the everglade water getting sea water mixing up with rise in sea levels as are being seen and recorded in Miami.
 
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Trump withdraws U.S from historic Paris Accord further deepening rift with allies

President Donald Trump made good on his campaign vow of withdrawing the United States from a historic global pact to fight climate change. He announced his decision while addressing the press in the Rose Garden on Thursday, a move that promises to deepen the existing rift with U.S. allies.

Trump stated that the decision on withdrawing from the 195-nation accord – agreed to in Paris in 2015 – was finalized, but adding that the U.S would start negotiations for re-entry to get a “fairer deal”

Trump, who has previously called global warming a hoax, termed the restrictions on industries to cut back on carbon emissions which were part of the international deal as being “draconian”.

The Paris Accord is a historic agreement between almost all nations which seeks to ramp up efforts of combating climate change. The agreement requires wealthier nations to provide financial aid to poorer ones in order for them to enact environmentally friendly measures. It also aims to contain the rise in global temperature to below 1.5 Celsius, cut back on carbon emissions, conduct stocktake efforts every five years, and has laid out long-term goals of achieving zero global emissions.

Read More: U.S withdrawing from the Paris Accord could deepen rift with allies

South Asian countries like Pakistan are profoundly vulnerable to climate change. This is due to the fact that South Asian countries are low to middle-income economies where a major part of an average individual’s income is reserved for food. Changes in temperature, erratic storms, and massive floods caused by climate would disrupt agriculture output causing food prices to rise and displace many to urban areas which are increasingly becoming overpopulated.

read full story: Trump withdraws U.S from historic Paris Accord further deepening rift with allies
 
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Look at the hue and cry of 'climate change' lobbyists. Not even funny.

Global warming is inevitable (and not reversible).

as usual, shows the baffoon he is. We are seeing climate change here over the past 40+years; it is blatently visible. to put a blinder on and appease these lunatic fringe appears to be his style. Well, his resort will have issues with drinking water as the everglade water getting sea water mixing up with rise in sea levels as are being seen and recorded in Miami.
How is he a buffoon for sticking to his campaign promises?

His reservations have more to do with economics realities of his state than lack of belief in climate change. His point of view is that US should embrace climate change initiative on its own terms and not bound to any deal in this regard. American economy is much bigger than that of any European state and its share of problems are also relatively greater so you won't understand.
 
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as usual, shows the baffoon he is. We are seeing climate change here over the past 40+years; it is blatently visible. to put a blinder on and appease these lunatic fringe appears to be his style. Well, his resort will have issues with drinking water as the everglade water getting sea water mixing up with rise in sea levels as are being seen and recorded in Miami.

Forget Trump for a moment. Just note how the Trump redneck supporters are standing shoulder to shoulder with orange man despite the ongoing insanity. What does this tell us about his supporters which are sizable in redneck land?

To even be arguing about climate change in this day and age is baffling. Worse is that you ignore it knowingly and put American jobs first as opposed to the world's very existence. The greed is unprecedented.

The whole freakin' world is united on the one side. On the other side you have orange man and his minions pretending they are doing a marvelous job.
 
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Forget Trump for a moment. Just note how the Trump redneck supporters are standing shoulder to shoulder with orange man despite the ongoing insanity. What does this tell us about his supporters which are sizable in redneck land?

To even be arguing about climate change in this day and age is baffling. Worse is that you ignore it knowingly and put American jobs first as opposed to the world's very existence. The greed is unprecedented.

The whole freakin' world is united on the one side. On the other side you have orange man and his minions pretending they are doing a marvelous job.

A Dutch calling Americans as rednecks is lecturing us on greed?
 
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Forget Trump for a moment. Just note how the Trump redneck supporters are standing shoulder to shoulder with orange man despite the ongoing insanity. What does this tell us about his supporters which are sizable in redneck land?

To even be arguing about climate change in this day and age is baffling. Worse is that you ignore it knowingly and put American jobs first as opposed to the world's very existence. The greed is unprecedented.

The whole freakin' world is united on the one side. On the other side you have orange man and his minions pretending they are doing a marvelous job.
Here is a neutral assessment: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-donald-trumps-statement-withdrawing-/

Nothing rosy there.

It is just a feel-good excercise for climate change advocates. Real-time impact won't be much.

Now listen!

1. Global Warming is inevitable.

2. Investment in renewable technologies/sources is expensive. Money doesn't grows on trees.

3. Every state has joined Paris Agreement on its own terms: no common ground.

4. Trump sees American side of bargain (set under Obama) for Paris Agreement impractical and damaging to US economic interests in the long-term.

5. A state needs to look at its economic realities before committing to a deal that may have significant economic implications otherwise. A sane state will not bankrupt itself to appease any lobby.

Conclusion? Trump wants a better deal.

And he may get it at some point.

Conversely, climate change is not in our hands (in that we cannot undo/reverse it). There is an entity out there who has full power over these matters; we (muslims) refer to it as Allah Almighty. Google the name.
 
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Look at the hue and cry of 'climate change' lobbyists. Not even funny.

Global warming is inevitable (and not reversible).


How is he a buffoon for sticking to his campaign promises?

His reservations have more to do with economics realities of his state than lack of belief in climate change. His point of view is that US should embrace climate change initiative on its own terms and not bound to any deal in this regard. American economy is much bigger than that of any European state and its share of problems are also relatively greater so you won't understand.

Campaign promise which leads to destruction of this planet. One cosmonaut put it very eloguently, if an person thinks they drive a country and dont care about this planet, put them on a rocket and send them into space. They will realise how fragile this planet it.

There is nothing in economics. You tell me, come over this part of the world and see the destructruction and severe unprecendent droughts that is happening in east africa and even in my part of the world. It angers me to see that this stupid arguments which are selfcentered and selfish. As one of the largest producers US has a responsibility as well - if you have a single drinking well, you cannot be shitting in it as welll.... that is my analogue to put it mildly....
 
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A Dutch calling Americans as rednecks is lecturing us on greed?

LOL why? You don't like the truth?

Here is a neutral assessment: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-donald-trumps-statement-withdrawing-/

Nothing rosy there.

It is just a feel-good excercise for climate change advocates. Real-time impact won't be much.

Now listen!

1. Global Warming is inevitable.

2. Investment in renewable technologies/sources is expensive. Money doesn't grows on trees.

3. Every state has joined Paris Agreement on its own terms: no common ground.

4. Trump sees American side of bargain (set under Obama) for Paris Agreement impractical and damaging to US economic interests in the long-term.

5. A state needs to look at its economic realities before committing to a deal that may have significant economic implications otherwise. A sane state will not bankrupt itself to appease any lobby.

Conclusion? Trump wants a better deal.

And he may get it at some point.

Conversely, climate change is not in our hands (in that we cannot undo/reverse it). There is an entity out there who has full power over these matters; we (muslims) refer to it as Allah Almighty. Google the name.

We already know the facts about global warming. We are not the ones in denial. Humans are worsening climate change. Don't shove everything on Allah and take some responsibility.

A better deal? LOL Trump wants to destroy the planet and he will do it if he has to. He is a greedy orange baboon. There is no better deal than the current accord. Trump is getting greedy. There are tons of green energy alternatives which can be explored.
 
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Campaign promise which leads to destruction of this planet. One cosmonaut put it very eloguently, if an person thinks they drive a country and dont care about this planet, put them on a rocket and send them into space. They will realise how fragile this planet it.

There is nothing in economics. You tell me, come over this part of the world and see the destructruction and severe unprecendent droughts that is happening in east africa and even in my part of the world. It angers me to see that this stupid arguments which are selfcentered and selfish. As one of the largest producers US has a responsibility as well - if you have a single drinking well, you cannot be shitting in it as welll.... that is my analogue to put it mildly....
I don't want to be part of your lalaland.

Effects of global warming are being felt everywhere, your region is not an exception. What you fail to understand is that global warming is INEVITABLE.

https://www.thoughtco.com/global-warming-inevitable-this-century-3322005
https://infogr.am/global-warming-is-inevitable
https://www.wired.com/2009/11/st_essay_globalwarming/

Since the dawn of Industrial Revolution, factories all over the world are throwing gases into the atmosphere and these emissions are the root cause of recent 'global warming' phenomenon. Unfortunately, these emissions are trapped in the atmosphere and are not going anywhere irrespective of the choices we make today. No harm in adopting eco-friendly Industrial practices but the damage is already done and irreversible. In short, we are already F**KED.

So what should be the plan of action now?

Every state should embrace eco-friendly Industrial practices but this shift should be measured, calculated and in accordance with the capacity of the state in question. If it is not practical for US to bear the costs of this shift in accordance with the terms of PARIS AGREEMENT, then those terms should be revisited to bring US on-board. Donald Trump have left the door open for negotiations over this matter.

However, you cannot blame Trump for safeguarding American economic interests as he deems necessary (he is responsible for the economic well-being of his state as POTUS). Your ramblings are irrelevant to him.

We already know the facts about global warming. We are not the ones in denial. Humans are worsening climate change. Don't shove everything on Allah and take some responsibility.

A better deal? LOL Trump wants to destroy the planet and he will do it if he has to. He is a greedy orange baboon. There is no better deal than the current accord. Trump is getting greedy. There are tons of green energy alternatives which can be explored.
Looks like my points flew over your head.

There is no better deal than the current accord.....how did you reach this conclusion?

Trump is safeguarding American economic interests and he should; he understands what is at stake for his country in this matter and he wants US to embrace eco-friendly practices in a measured way.

And what are those tons of green energy alternatives? Show me a complete feasibility report and costs involved.

Point is that Global Warming is INEVITABLE whether US honors Paris Agreement or not. Try to comprehend.
 
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I don't want to be part of your lalaland.

Effects of global warming are being felt everywhere, your region is not an exception. What you fail to understand is that global warming is INEVITABLE.

https://www.thoughtco.com/global-warming-inevitable-this-century-3322005
https://infogr.am/global-warming-is-inevitable
https://www.wired.com/2009/11/st_essay_globalwarming/

Since the dawn of Industrial Revolution, factories all over the world are throwing gases into the atmosphere and these emissions are the root cause of recent 'global warming' phenomenon. Unfortunately, these emissions are trapped in the atmosphere and are not going anywhere irrespective of the choices we make today. No harm in adopting eco-friendly Industrial practices but the damage is already done and irreversible. In short, we are already F**KED.

So what should be the plan of action now?

Every state should embrace eco-friendly Industrial practices but this shift should be measured, calculated and in accordance with the capacity of the state in question. If it is not practical for US to bear the costs of this shift in accordance with the terms of PARIS AGREEMENT, then those terms should be revisited to bring US on-board. Donald Trump have left the door open for negotiations over this matter.

However, you cannot blame Trump for safeguarding American economic interests as he deems necessary (he is responsible for the economic well-being of his state as POTUS). Your concerns are irrelevant to him.


Looks like my points flew over your head.

There is no better deal than the current accord.....how did you reach this conclusion?

Trump is safeguarding American economic interests and he should; he understands what is at stake for his country in this matter and he wants US to embrace eco-friendly practices in a measured way.

And what are those tons of green energy alternatives? Show me a complete feasibility report and costs involved.
Correct, it is exactly the irrelevant that industrialised powers have that have lead us to this point. At least whether that sparrow brained president agrees or not, we all have to take action - in my view he is irrelevant in the global scheme of things.

At my farm home i have wind turbine generating 800w + 3kw solar panels; power is stored in a set of 12 truck (not bakkies, but 28v batteries) and a 10kw sinewave inverter. Completely off grid system.

LOL why? You don't like the truth?



We already know the facts about global warming. We are not the ones in denial. Humans are worsening climate change. Don't shove everything on Allah and take some responsibility.

A better deal? LOL Trump wants to destroy the planet and he will do it if he has to. He is a greedy orange baboon. There is no better deal than the current accord. Trump is getting greedy. There are tons of green energy alternatives which can be explored.
Presies, nederlands verstaan die see uitdagings..... Ek skryf in afrikaans. Slegs idiote het oë gesluit
 
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The deal wasn't fair to the US. While they would loose jobs and entire industries China was pledging to reduce polution from 2030 onwards while India barely reduced anything, all the while outsourcing capital and jobs from the western world on vague promises. Trump is right on this one.
 
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Correct, it is exactly the irrelevant that industrialised powers have that have lead us to this point. At least whether that sparrow brained president agrees or not, we all have to take action - in my view he is irrelevant in the global scheme of things.

At my farm home i have wind turbine generating 800w + 3kw solar panels; power is stored in a set of 12 truck (not bakkies, but 28v batteries) and a 10kw sinewave inverter. Completely off grid system.


Presies, nederlands verstaan die see uitdagings..... Ek skryf in afrikaans. Slegs idiote het oë gesluit
A large number of people cannot afford a farm house, let alone shift to completely off-grid systems.

You need to understand that economic realities of each state is different. This is why every state needs to embrace eco-friendly practices in a measured and calculative manner.

Take a look:

energy_consumption_by_source_large.jpg


Look at the consumption levels of different forms of energy. The share of renewable energy has increased over time but it is not going to substitute other forms of energy anytime soon. And a shift needs to be calculated and measured because a lot of economic matters are at stake.

American economy is way too big and complex to play with like it is possible in your state.
 
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