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Trump seen hardening line toward Pakistan

US is & always will be a untrusted country who only worship their own personal interests.

I have always said & I will stick with my stance of Pakistan showing equal reaction to US by shutting down the so called US embassy which in fact is a fortress & a home to operatives. Not only that Pakistan should say good bye to US Aid program as under the table they are spying & operating against Pakistan. We have seen all this in the past.

Trump is a stupid & a idiot President, Pakistan should respond against his nonsense.
 
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It are the people around him such as McMaster and others who are dictating Pakistan policy. Trump hasn't got a clue where Pakistan lies on the map. Pakistan would be always low on his radar.

McMaster and others are in for a rude awakening. This whole charade is over long ago. Pakistan doesn't care about Afghanistan. It is a failed opium craphole that blames others for its shortcomings. We are building a fence to keep Afghans out.
 
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It are the people around him such as McMaster and others who are dictating Pakistan policy. Trump hasn't got a clue where Pakistan lies on the map. Pakistan would be always low on his radar.

McMaster and others are in for a rude awakening. This whole charade is over long ago. Pakistan doesn't care about Afghanistan. It is a failed opium craphole that blames others for its shortcomings. We are building a fence to keep Afghans out.

if Pakistan did not care about Afghanistan they would shut down the Taliban operation and move on
 
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I'm gonna leave this hear to expose the hypocrisy of Americans. At one hand, they are doing in syria what pakistan does in Afghanistan, while on the other hand they accuse Pakistan of supporting terrorists while they themselves support terrorists in Syria @C130

 
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while Pakistani on this forum act very confident ( based on daily lies from their Army about their physical state), their Army and rulers will bend backward again ..the way Musharaff did.

Do you have cognitive dissonance or something? On one hand you say Pakistan army and rulers will bend over backwards for Americans, while on the other hand you say Pakistan supports rebels against American forces in Afghanistan. How does it all make sense to you?

you got billions of dollars in money. It is called CSF payments

Half of it is not aid. It is basically payment for services provided. So, at best, US has given us 15 billion aid in 16 years. You think 15 billion in 16 years is some crazy number? CPEC is 60 billion in 14 years, and the number keeps growing.

if Pakistan did not care about Afghanistan they would shut down the Taliban operation and move on


And which Taliban operation are you referring to?
 
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:D . good for us we will move closer to Moscow & Beijing:) .

Talk is cheap, at-least show something like we did and then brag. We have never compromised on our national sovereignty or dignity to make petty strategic or military alliance with others. :-)
2014 Chinese incursion incident :)
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We do cut off NATO supplies until they apologise.
 
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2014 Chinese incursion incident :)
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We do cut off NATO supplies until they apologise.

LOL, both very much comparable right friend ??

Now tell me how much violence and how many lives were lost during the 2014 Chinese incursion incident and what is the current status ?? Who keeps what ?? :p:

And sorry to say, let me ask you something, is the life of your soldiers only worth a mere apology, think for yourself ?? :p:
 
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Half of it is not aid. It is basically payment for services provided. So, at best, US has given us 15 billion aid in 16 years. You think 15 billion in 16 years is some crazy number? CPEC is 60 billion in 14 years, and the number keeps growing.

CSF is aid in another term. Call it whatever you want.

CPEC is not aid. It is loans that have to be repaid.

LOL, both very much comparable right friend ??

Now tell me how much violence and how many lives were lost during the 2014 Chinese incursion incident and what is the current status ?? Who keeps what ?? :p:

And sorry to say, let me ask you something, is the life of your soldiers only worth a mere apology, think for yourself ?? :p:
if it was a mistake you take a sincere apology and move on
 
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its only tactics to undermine CPEC and to stop the growth of Pakistan and china... and to appease indian for taking action against Pakistan.. Thats no way to win any wars.. it will make Pakistan to take some action which will be not good for them..
 
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if Pakistan did not care about Afghanistan they would shut down the Taliban operation and move on

We know what the US and India are doing in Afghanistan. They certainly aren't running a charity.

Do you have cognitive dissonance or something? On one hand you say Pakistan army and rulers will bend over backwards for Americans, while on the other hand you say Pakistan supports rebels against American forces in Afghanistan. How does it all make sense to you?



Half of it is not aid. It is basically payment for services provided. So, at best, US has given us 15 billion aid in 16 years. You think 15 billion in 16 years is some crazy number? CPEC is 60 billion in 14 years, and the number keeps growing.




And which Taliban operation are you referring to?

Indians and their contradictions. This forum is an example of it.

its only tactics to undermine CPEC and to stop the growth of Pakistan and china... and to appease indian for taking action against Pakistan.. Thats no way to win any wars.. it will make Pakistan to take some action which will be not good for them..

To no avail and they fully know it. It is nothing, but sour grapes. I'm itching to see what this orange baboon is going to do against Pakistan. How tough will he get? Let's wait and see. I'll be laughing if they impose the usual sanctions.
 
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I'm gonna leave this hear to expose the hypocrisy of Americans. At one hand, they are doing in syria what pakistan does in Afghanistan, while on the other hand they accuse Pakistan of supporting terrorists while they themselves support terrorists in Syria @C130


There is a big, big difference in both. The U.S, NATO doesn't say they support Asad and Syrian regime and then support the jihadists. They are already against Asad and hence support the rebels unlike Pakistan who always choose to play a double game. On one had you claim to be the biggest non-NATO allie in the war against terror and on the other your provide safe heavens and support Taliban and the Haqqani network. This is the main and most valid reason for accusing Pakistan. :)
 
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CSF is aid in another term. Call it whatever you want.
So what is the amount of aid you think US has paid Pakistan in 16 years? The number doesn't seem to be that large considering it is over 16 years, and now the amount is even less. Why do you think Pakistan is dependent on 300m a year and will fail without it?

CPEC is not aid. It is loans that have to be repaid.

It is what that will cause growth in Pakistan. Not CSF or any of that crap.
 
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Interesting fact is that trump is a good friend of India, Russia and china as well, I do not understand why pakistanis think russians will help them against trump.
 
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