Trump seen hardening line toward Pakistan

[Tom M]

LOL well they are constantly asking Pakistan to do more so that puts your little theory in find storage. Trying to get sarcastic about it won't get you any points.

If someone is paying for something they will expect a result. Moreover they never asked Pakistan to fight inside Afghanistan for them, did they ??

What U.S.A is asking is to take action against the militants/terrorists from Afghanistan who are having safe heavens inside Pakistan and you know that very well. And it is not because they can't do, but they respect your sovereignty to a certain extend I suppose. But they have targeted many inside your soil and Pakistan had cried them a river regarding sovereignty etc.

LOL at achieved their objectives. I wonder what those were. Today, Afghanistan is a hellhole. From record opium production to warlords oppressing their own Afghan people. Taliban rule the roost. Ghani cannot leave his bunker. The "stronghold" Kabul burns like Rome. Don't even get me started. You think we care if they stay or leave? Heck, they have spent more than a trillion dollars and lost countless lives. If this is what you call an achievement of any sort you need to visit a doctor quickly.

You are saying as if Afghanistan was having rivers of honey and milk before the Americans came. LOL
And the Americans did achieved their strategic objectives, you are talking on emotional terms, but didn't they achieve their military objectives, the purpose for which they came to Afghanistan ??

LOL that was s different time you ignorant fool.et the American day it again and they will see which side we are on. In fact they already know it and it is not their side. So much for your hollow rhetoric.

LOL, your history says otherwise so let's wait and see. Just ask Musharraf how he wetted his pants during the call with Mr. Bush.

 

[maximuswarrior]

No personal attacks please. Keep the dicussion civilised.

Tell that to your Indian friend.

If someone is paying for something they will expect a result. Moreover they never asked Pakistan to fight inside Afghanistan for them, did they ??

What U.S.A is asking is to take action against the militants/terrorists from Afghanistan who are having safe heavens inside Pakistan and you know that very well. And it is not because they can't do, but they respect your sovereignty to a certain extend I suppose. But they have targeted many inside your soil and Pakistan had cried them a river regarding sovereignty etc.



You are saying as if Afghanistan was having rivers of honey and milk before the Americans came. LOL
And the Americans did achieved their strategic objectives, you are talking on emotional terms, but didn't they achieve their military objectives, the purpose for which they came to Afghanistan ??



LOL, your history says otherwise so let's wait and see. Just ask Musharraf how he wetted his pants during the call with Mr. Bush.

America did not pay Pakistan for results. They paid us because they used our military bases, supply routes and made use of other services. Get that through your skull. We do not owe them anything.

Talk about contradiction. Make up your mind buddy. If drone strikes amount to respecting sovereignty of a nation you are not very bright. The Americans don't respect anything. They have killed Pakistanis including children and women without closing an eyelid. You know this so stop pretending otherwise. America has created safe havens for Indian terror consulates in Afghanistan which are used to carry out terror attacks in Pakistan. Don't shed crocodile tears. You accuse others of terrorism when your own hands are filled with blood. We don't require hypocritical American/Indian lectures on this subject. We know exactly who plots terror attacks against our children in Afghan valleys. We know who provides safe havens to these terrorists to carry out terror plots in Pakistan. We know who turns a blind eye to all these atrocious acts and still has the audacity to blame others. The duplicity won't work.

LOL wasn't it your father America which left Afghanistan high and dry after the Cold War? Wasn't it your daddy America who created and armed the Mujahideen to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan? What happened to goodwill back then? We're those the rivers of honey the Americans promised to the Afghan people?

LOL after more than a decade this is what your daddy America has given to Afghanistan. Taliban stronger than ever before. Women have no rights. Child molesters are ruling in Afghanistan. American soldiers are instructed by their superiors to turn a blind eye to Afghan warlords raping and molesting their Afghan children. Afghanistan is the world's largest opium exporter. Don't tell me that this is what a superpower like America could achieve in all these years with the NATO coalition by its side. I hear opium export is a lucrative business that has caught the keen eye of Americans in Afghanistan LOL So much for telling the "truth".

We'll see who wets their pants. Right now it is your daddy America admitting that all roads to success in Afghanistan lead from Pakistan. Your daddy is so insecure that they have to threaten CPEC and our relation with China LOLZ Talk about desperation. Too bad they won't get our support in their illegitimate wars. Whatever you say means nothing. We will do whatever our interest dictates. America is a sore loser that has an orange baboon leading the pack LOL

 

[Tom M]

America did not pay Pakistan for results. They paid us because they used our military bases, supply routes and other sevuces. Get that through your skull. We do not owe them anything.

I guess while you are lecturing me on the subject you may very well know the definition, the american law and the agreements with the allies regarding CSF ?? If not;

Coalition Support Funds (CSF) refers to money from the Defense Emergency Response Fund (DERF) that is eligible to be used to reimburse coalition partners for logistical and military support to U.S. military operations.

Now please mark the words military support, here. So if you are getting money, you do owe something, else they are well within the agreement to cut the promised amount, which I guess they have done multiple times.

Talk about contradiction. Make up your mind buddy. If drone strikes amounts to respecting sovereignty of a nation you are not very bright. The Americans don't respect anything. They have killed Pakistanis without closing an eyelid. You know this so stop pretending otherwise. America has created safe havens for Indian terror consulates in Afghanistan which are used to carry out terror attacks in Pakistan. Don't shed crocodile tears now. You accuse others of terrorism when your own hands are filled with blood. We do t require hypocritical American/Indian lectures on this subject.

As if your hands are clean ?? It's a dirty game that everyone involved is playing against another. But U.S.A had disrespected your sovereignty many times and you couldn't do anything convening against that.

LOL wasn't it your father America which left Afghanistan high and dry after the Cold War? Was that the river honey they promised the Afghan people back then? LOL after more than a decade this is what your America has given to Afghanistan. Taliban stronger than ever before. Women have no rights. Child molesters are ruling in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is the worlds largest opium exporter. Don't tell me that this is what a superpower like America could achieve in all these years. LOL

Again India's father U.S.A ?? Sounds good when someone especially from Pakistan is saying that. I can understand your feelings. LOL

And don't tell me about woman right under Taliban regime, that would be the biggest joke of the century. LOL

Again you are talking about what Afghanistan had achieved after U.S invasion, but here I'm talking about the U.S objectives before invasion of Afghanistan, didn't that achieved every single one of them ??

 

[Irfan Baloch]

LOL well they are constantly asking or should I say almost begging Pakistan to do more so that puts your little insignificant theory in cold storage. Trying to get sarcastic about it won't get you any points.

LOL at achieved their objectives. I wonder what those were. Today, Afghanistan is a hellhole. From record opium production to warlords oppressing their own Afghan people. Taliban rule the roost all across Afghanistan. Ghani cannot leave his bunker. The "stronghold" Kabul burns like Rome. Don't even get me started. You think we care if they stay or leave? I hope they stay because everyone is returning the favor. Ask the Russians who are bleeding them out in Syria and Afghanistan. Heck, they have spent more than a trillion dollars and lost countless lives. If this is what you call an achievement of any sort you need to visit a doctor quickly.

LOL that was a different time you ignorant fool. Today is a different time and if the American say it again they will see which side we are on. In fact they already know which side we are on and it is certainly not their side. We have already proved it by allying with China and American frustration is testimony of this fact. Why else would they be literally asking Pakistan for favors? So much for your hollow rhetoric.

I dont know if there is any room left to harden any further to help fix the mess they created by first invading Afghansitan and then staying there for over a decade

I dont know but maybe someone else can tell me how would this hardened stance help to prevent Afghan ANA soldiers from killing Americans or how will it help in getting a resolution with Taliban by first seeking Pakistani help to bring Afghan Taliban on negotiation table and then setting up their office in UAE and then deciding to assassinate their leadership as well and expecting them not to retaliate and expecting Northern alliance thugs not to steal the money and let its uncontrollable thugs from killing Americans

i9t seems American administration (whatever the party) is bipolar... one sits in capital hill and yells at the countries it doesnt like and other goes to invade other countries gets a setback.. seeks help and says a different thing and when things dont turn out as planned.. joins the capital hill side and blames everyone else

 

[maximuswarrior]

I dont know if there is any room left to harden any further to help fix the mess they created by first invading Afghansitan and then staying there for over a decade

I dont know but maybe someone else can tell me how would this hardened stance help to prevent Afghan ANA soldiers from killing Americans or how will it help in getting a resolution with Taliban by first seeking Pakistani help to bring Afghan Taliban on negotiation table and then setting up their office in UAE and then deciding to assassinate their leadership as well and expecting them not to retaliate and expecting Northern alliance thugs not to steal the money and let its uncontrollable thugs from killing Americans

i9t seems American administration (whatever the party) is bipolar... one sits in capital hill and yells at the countries it doesnt like and other goes to invade other countries gets a setback.. seeks help and says a different thing and when things dont turn out as planned.. joins the capital hill side and blames everyone else

Couldn't have said it any better. This is the best America could do in the past decade. Today, Afghan soldiers are killing the same American instructors who train them. These attacks have only increased. Many Afghan soldiers trained by American forces have defected to the Taliban and various other militants outfits. ISIS is another grave threat looming over Afghanistan. There is nothing good that has happened in Afghanistan during the course of American presence. I mean absolutely zilch.

The whole Afghan adventure by the Americans has resulted in a farcical comedy. All they can do is blame Pakistan for their own miseries and mishaps. Even that has resulted in Pakistan distancing itself from the US. Something the Americans are so bitter about. The irony is that they make these hopeless threats, but offer useless carrots at the same time. A confused bunch is what the Americans are, but that also largely explains Trump getting elected. The Americans are nothing, but lousy losers. It is sour grapes and frankly we couldn't care less.

Pakistan won't participate in a failed American war. We have already suffered enough. We have lost tens of thousands of people. Our economy has suffered losses in excess of hundreds of billions of dollars. America has only blamed Pakistan in the process. We are going to cooperate with China and work for the betterment of our people. CPEC is the future. America cannot make this region a safer and better places. China can. Actions speak louder than words and Chinese actions speak for themselves.

 

[wiseone2]

LOL so what are you waiting for? Why beg Pakistan to do more each time if they can fly over us? Is it really that simple? Again empty bluff. Just bluff is all it is.

These Americans can't even sort out their crap in Syria and elsewhere LOL You can't convince us about anything. We know how tough and smart the Americans are. They got owned by Putin and are licking their wounds till this day. LOL at the fiasco in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pakistan is way way beyond their wildest dreams.

Pakistan belongs in the China camp. The US is history. They screwed up and they have lost all credibility. They have zero clout over us. All America and you can do now is cry. Cry about aid money LOL Who even cares.

LOL do something about it. The aid threat ain't gonna work fool. We provided services. You gonna use our roads and our ports you gonna pay. Capiche? You don't like our roads and ports you can piss off and use other routes leading to Afghanistan.

PAF would not challenge USAF if they violate your airspace en route to blowing some cave dwellers in Afghanistan

**** this shit. We are done playing an American stooge. We have finally found some stability and security with the help of our ally China. These Americans just can't accept peace and security in Pakistan. The last thing we need is these rednecks to spoil our recovery.

We need to look them in the eye and tell them that enough is enough. We are not on their side. We can't do anything about opiumland. We can't bring the Taliban to the table. We have no influence. They shouldn't have any expectations from Pakistan. End of story.

If the Americans want to pick a fight with Pakistan they need to be told bluntly that there will be consequences. We won't tolerate bullying anymore.

Seal the Afghan border and chuck these Afghans back to Afghanistan. We are done here.

Of course you are done with America. The gravy train from America carrying dollars has stopped.

 

[Kabira]

Trump is stupid. He will ask military administration why the f are you not winning despite getting billions and billions of dollars. Military despite knowing fully well why will put all the blame on Pakistan.

 

[wiseone2]

Tell that to your Indian friend.



America did not pay Pakistan for results. They paid us because they used our military bases, supply routes and made use of other services. Get that through your skull. We do not owe them anything.

I doubt Musharraf or anyone after 9/11 said that

 

[Kabira]

Does Pakistan still get free military hardware for being major non-nato ally? If not then USA should change this status.

 

[Azadkashmir]

so basically usa blaming pakistan for losing war on terror when usa soldiers are sitting in tents and eating macdonald meals and flying drones blowing up houses or wedding parties. isis is usa creation which is used to topple regimes that are resisting rothschild imperialism of course usa is the the attack dog.
pakistan is the biggest victim of terrorism, i mean these groups never attack israel or saudis or maybe somtime usa but not much. pakistan has given most contribution against war on terror. pakistan lost economy in the billions but usa is just printing and printing and bullying nations to take thier debt if not then you end up like gaddafi.

seriously the game is up. by the way that opium lands in liverpool then into muslims areas but you see muslim faces on the newspaper but never you will see or hear about intel agencies behind it.

They are frustrated at the pentagon and city london becuase they know that thier end is in afganistan. i dont want to bring religious prophecies in it but that what this is about they know they will be defeated starting from afghanistan.

barter for oil bypassing dollar.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Says a dirty Indian who got mauled during the final. You can't even take action after your fake Mumbai attack LOL All your nation can do is bend backwards and stage a fake surgical strike LMAO according to your own government Pak armed forces entered Indian territory and mutilated your soldiers like dead pigs. We even escaped unharmed. LOL Talk about shameful admission.

Just stop talking and bring it on. Nations who mean business don't talk. They get to action.

Uncle Sam has accused Pakistan of all sorts. All they do is talk. We are sick and tired of old man Ted bloody Poe and that cunt Rohrabacher sitting in Capitol Hill and handing out fake lectures. We need some action because the empty threats are tiresome. Just wait how we return the favor in Afghanistan. We are going to annihilate Indian terror consulates. We are going to smoke you.

LOL Is that why a bunch of Indian beggars are begging China to disband CPEC on an hourly basis? Stupid Indian negro.

@NALANDA got his bhund smoked by @maximuswarrior

 

[maximuswarrior]

PAF would not challenge USAF if they violate your airspace en route to blowing some cave dwellers in Afghanistan



Of course you are done with America. The gravy train from America carrying dollars has stopped.

Whatever the Americans do in Afghanistan is something we do not care about. America needs to stop asking Pakistan to be their partner in their Afghan adventure. Plain and simple. We are building a fence for a reason. Our sole plan is to repatriate Afghans back to their home country and seal the border. Whatever happens on the Afghan side is their own undertaking. We got more important things on our mind such as making CPEC a success.

So, you finally do admit the money has stopped. Please do convince your Indian brothers in this thread of the same. These fools are still under the illusion that Pakistan receives aid from the US.

 

[Musafir117]

Trump the low grade comedian will bring some stupid idea so we can laugh on it! Wake up Trumpy smell the coffee and watch around the world is changed a lot in around.

 

[NALANDA]

Says a dirty Indian who got mauled during the final. You can't even take action after your fake Mumbai attack LOL All your nation can do is bend backwards and stage a fake surgical strike LMAO according to your own government Pak armed forces entered Indian territory and mutilated your soldiers like dead pigs. We even escaped unharmed. LOL Talk about shameful admission.

Just stop talking and bring it on. Nations who mean business don't talk. They get to action.

Uncle Sam has accused Pakistan of all sorts. All they do is talk. We are sick and tired of old man Ted bloody Poe and that cunt Rohrabacher sitting in Capitol Hill and handing out fake lectures. We need some action because the empty threats are tiresome. Just wait how we return the favor in Afghanistan. We are going to annihilate Indian terror consulates. We are going to smoke you.

LOL Is that why a bunch of Indian beggars are begging China to disband CPEC on an hourly basis? Stupid Indian negro.

You want action but you have action going on 24x7 in Pakistan. Let me share an example. A pig may dare me to fight but I need to arm wrestle it right away and get dirty in the process. I can just hire Municipality Guys to put iron rods in the pig's arse (cause i have the resources to do it) and play it safe and nice.

 

[wiseone2]

Trump will be too distracted with his Russia investigation to do anything