Trump says US has developed 'much better' relations with Pakistan recently

[Ahmet Pasha]

In that case send low level sargeants, majors, colonels, brigadiers. Mayors, ambassador, junior foreign office staff and foreign secretary only to greet them, these white chimps need to be placed in their rightful place.

they need Pak , they always will. Remember that.

 

[LeGenD]

No they can't F35 do not have any weapon yet that can take on a ballistic missile ...

How would you know? They will not tell the public until they want to which is often a decade later.

 

[The Accountant]

How would you know? They will not tell the public until they want to which is often a decade later.

By this definition even su30mki could have some secret weapon ...

And by this definition f35 can take down our weapons even at ground ...

By the way how could i would be amaze if f35 or any plane have missiles faster then ballistic missiles

 

[LeGenD]

By this definition even su30mki could have some secret weapon ...

And by this definition f35 can take down our weapons even at ground ...

By the way how could i would be amaze if f35 or any plane have missiles faster then ballistic missiles

I do not subscribe to wild imaginations and assumptions in regards to weaponry but I base my case on available evidence and/or hints.

F-35 variants are the only combat aircraft in existence with sensor suite optimized for detecting and tracking ballistic missiles in real-time (thus far) - solid evidence on the web and otherwise.

Next step is to 'program' onboard armament to engage a ballistic missile when the target is acquired (boost phase). This might already be the case; AIM-120D is BVR and have MACH 4+ speed for instance, and F-35 in itself is a moving platform. It is not far-fetched to assume that F-35 is already capable of shooting down ballistic missiles in boost phase - logical thinking by connecting relevant dots. Just not confirmed in public yet which is not necessary, but evidence will eventually surface one day.

 

[The Accountant]

I do not subscribe to wild imaginations and assumptions in regards to weaponry but I base my case on available evidence and/or hints.

F-35 variants are the only combat aircraft in existence with sensor suite optimized for detecting and tracking ballistic missiles in real-time (thus far) - solid evidence on the web and otherwise.

Next step is to 'program' onboard armament to engage a ballistic missile when the target is acquired (boost phase). This might already be the case; AIM-120D is BVR and have MACH 4+ speed for instance, and F-35 in itself is a moving platform. It is not far-fetched to assume that F-35 is already capable of shooting down ballistic missiles in boost phase - logical thinking by connecting relevant dots. Just not confirmed in public yet which is not necessary, but evidence will eventually surface one day.

Mach4 is nothing in comparision to mach 15 plus of ballistic missile ...

Boast phase window is too short to take any real difference ... hardly a minute to react and that too if you are within 50 kms range ... in real life scenario chances of this is not even 1% unless US has complete air superiority in Pakistani air space and have hundreds of planes always available in air in Pakistan ...

So nothing realistic ... f35 anti ballistic missile capability can take effect only after getting complete air superiority but that will be tok late because if it comes to even close to this it means nuclear missiles are already launched ...

 

[Crystal-Clear]

From lies & deciet to much better relation .
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Badalta Hai Rang Aasman Kaise Kaise .

 

[Max]

How cruel of Mr.Trump, during campaign of Trump sanghis worshipped Trump on streets as new bhagwan to fight their war against Pakistan...lol

 

[Pakistani Aircraft]

Today is Saturday, weekend and even today India is humiliated internationally?

No rest for the devil.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

How cruel of Mr.Trump, during campaign of Trump sanghis worshipped Trump on streets as new bhagwan to fight their war against Pakistan...lol

sanghis or unki choti soch .

 

[LeGenD]

Mach4 is nothing in comparision to mach 15 plus of ballistic missile ...

A ballistic missile does not attain this level of speed in boost phase; not even close.

Boast phase window is too short to take any real difference ... hardly a minute to react and that too if you are within 50 kms range ... in real life scenario chances of this is not even 1% unless US has complete air superiority in Pakistani air space and have hundreds of planes always available in air in Pakistan ...

More than a minute a actually, and it can be defeated in boost phase. Of-course, proximity is "vital." And yes, numbers are necessary as well. However, continue to read below.

So nothing realistic ... f35 anti ballistic missile capability can take effect only after getting complete air superiority but that will be tok late because if it comes to even close to this it means nuclear missiles are already launched ...

F-35 is designed to sneak through and/or jam modern set of defenses; no need to establish air superiority over Pakistani airspace beforehand, but whatever will come in the way of these Jets will be shot down anyways. Of-course, numbers will be important for ABM missions. And you are assuming that PAF and IAF are not done with each other first (we are considering Pakistan versus India scenario, right?)

Nuclear weapons are last resort options, and I do not think that Pakistan and India will use them early on. Therefore, US will have window to intervene.

I see the possibility of US discouraging both Pakistan and India from using nuclear weapons in a war, and consider ceasefire. Towards this end, US might deploy its own forces in the Arabian Sea and threaten to unleash its F-35 squadrons to intervene and shoot down ballistic missiles from either side.

Now keep in mind that US already have extraordinary level of INTEL at its disposal, and Pentagon is most likely aware where Pakistani and Indian TEL are deployed. Therefore, F-35 can be dispatched to these locations directly, and their is no need to blindly patrol the airspaces of both countries. And F-35 series aircraft's sensor suite is excellent at illuminating military hardware on the surface for its pilot.

My point-of-contention is in regards to hinted ABM capability of F-35 (technically speaking), and this is most likely true.

However, US might not bother with Pakistan versus India scenario at all, and allow the two countries to ruin each other.

 

[The Accountant]

A ballistic missile does not attain this level of speed in boost phase; not even close.


More than a minute a actually, and it can be defeated in boost phase. Of-course, proximity is "vital." And yes, numbers are necessary as well. However, continue to read below.


F-35 is designed to sneak through and/or jam modern set of defenses; no need to establish air superiority over Pakistani airspace beforehand, but whatever will come in the way of these Jets will be shot down anyways. Of-course, numbers will be important for ABM missions. And you are assuming that PAF and IAF are not done with each other first (we are considering Pakistan versus India scenario, right?)

Nuclear weapons are last resort options, and I do not think that Pakistan and India will use them early on. Therefore, US will have window to intervene.

I see the possibility of US discouraging both Pakistan and India from using nuclear weapons in a war, and consider ceasefire. Towards this end, US might deploy its own forces in the Arabian Sea and threaten to unleash its F-35 squadrons to intervene and shoot down ballistic missiles from either side.

Now keep in mind that US already have extraordinary level of INTEL at its disposal, and Pentagon is most likely aware where Pakistani and Indian TEL are deployed. Therefore, F-35 can be dispatched to these locations directly, and their is no need to blindly patrol the airspaces of both countries. And F-35 series aircraft's sensor suite is excellent at illuminating military hardware on the surface for its pilot.

My point-of-contention is in regards to hinted ABM capability of F-35 (technically speaking), and this is most likely true.

However, US might not bother with Pakistan versus India scenario at all, and allow the two countries to ruin each other.

First of all detection capability does not means engaging capability ... For example a radar has a detecting capability but only SAM has engaging capability and that too limit to the designed role ...

Secondly, F35 is stealthy at a certain range ... If a normal F16 can be detected by AWACS at 100 kms than F35 might get detected at 25 kms ... In a fighter to fighter fight, this is big advantage but not enough to sneak in to a well-guarded territory ... Ground radars will pick up the plane and it will be at huge risk ... So unless US is sure that there will be no retaliation from Pakistan F16s will not be sent to Pakistan air space ...

Thirdly, a ballistic missile is slow at start and gradually picks up the speed but same is the story of any missile ,,, it takes time to pick up the speed ...

Fourth, right my word the moment Pakistan feels that it is no longer to defend its air space the nuclear weapons will be launched because if we dont then US and India will destroy atleast 75% to 90% of the nuclear assets on ground ... So after initial fight if PAF feels pressure they will move back to defensive pressure but if losses are huge enough that PAF will not be able to defend air space then they will immediately launch nuclear weapons untill or unless a earlier cease fire achieved