Traditional chinese costume . We eliminate your misunderstanding of Chinese costume and hairstyle.

[jkroo]

“利玛窦以年老患病身故，情实可怜，况臣利玛窦自入圣朝，渐习熙明之化，读书通理，朝夕虔恭，焚香祝天，颂圣一念，犬马报恩忠赤之心，都城士民共知，非敢饰说。生前颇称好学，颇能著述，先在海邦，原系知名之士，及来上国，亦为缙绅所嘉？臣等外国微臣，悲其死无葬地，泣血祈恳天恩，查赐闲地亩余，或废寺闲房数间，俾异域遗骸得以埋瘗，而臣等见在四人，亦得生死相依，恪守教规，既享天朝乐土太平之福，亦毕蝼蚁外臣报效之诚。”

His Ming Official costume is good.

 

[sahaliyan]

it seems you are against chinese. and we just tell the history, and do revival chinese own traditional costume, it is none business of you, if you don´t like it, then just keep silence. no one will say you are a dumb. And we talk about modern china, and culture revival, why you mislead others into history ?

Modern China is successor of Qing dynasty
and Modern Chinese is not same as Han Chinese,can you understand?

 

[Andrei]

The existence of Xia Dynasty was not even 100% conformed, also if Zhou and Shang really did share the completely same culture, then why did Zhou people has to "變其俗革其禮". Besides Manchurian is/ was Chinese, Qing dynasty is even the first dynasty in Chinese history which firstly use the world "中國" as an official name of the whole country.

Any example of "abandoning advanced culture"? I can give you an example of how the advanced astronomy of Yuan was abandoned by its successor:

[中國曆法，本不及外國之精密，以故前元欽天監外，又有回回欽天監，本朝亦設回回司天監，有正儀大夫、司朔大夫、司元大夫等官。至洪武三十一年而廢之，以其 教歸並之，欽天但用彼國土板曆同算，久之則法亦不驗，與中士無異矣。國初，學天文有厲禁，習曆者遣戍，造曆者殊死。至孝宗弛其禁，且命徵山林隱逸能通曆學 者以備其選，而卒無應者。近年因日食分數不相符，督責欽天，但唯唯謝罪，以世學歲久無他術為解。而士大夫中，如參政刑雲鷺輩，俱精於天文，刻有成書，皆雲 勝僧一行及郭守敬諸人矣。然未曾用之推測也。禁中大榼輩，又自有內靈台，專司星象，其職任，其學業，大抵與外庭仿佛，皆土圭中糟粕耳。自利瑪竇入都，號精 象數，而士人李之藻等皆授其業，似當令兼領天文，如先朝儒臣童軒華湘等可也。]

Since when did Chinese science and technology was No1 in the world.
Guess who said this:

[中國人把所有的外國人都看作沒有知識的野蠻人，並且就用這樣的詞句來稱呼他們。他們甚至不屑 從外國人的書裡學習任何東西，因為他們相信只有他們自己才有真正的科學和知識。如果他們偶爾在他們的著述中有提到外國人的地方，他們也會把他們當作好像不 容置疑地和森林與原野裡的野獸差不多。甚至他們表示外國人這個詞的書面詞彙業和用於野獸的一樣，他們難得給外國人一個比他們加之於野獸的更尊貴的名稱。]


Can you even read 古文.

［金珠衣飾，書籍器皿，遍列通衢，其價甚賤。有錢買歸者，後獲大利。新太守張（按：張銚，偃 師人）住進士陳子龍宅。華亭縣陳鑑、海防楊之易，即忠臣楊漣長子，時雖剃髮，猶漢人衣冠，烏紗大帶，不改舊服也。餘以丁艱，不與科試，兼欲告閒，而同袍之 告退者不一人。學師欲索重價，餘以力綿中止。九月十三日，督鎮李成棟點驗各兵，餘與曹馳尹儒冠往觀之。李尚烏紗玉帶，用八座大轎，抬於門首，馬步卒皆疾趨 而過，軍威嚴肅，莫可名狀。］

Chinese invented gun, canon, rocket, missile, crossbow #2

 

[Snomannen]

it seems you are against chinese. and we just tell the history, and do revival chinese own traditional costume, it is none business of you, if you don´t like it, then just keep silence. no one will say you are a dumb. And we talk about modern china, and culture revival, why you mislead others into history ?

Typical "I can't use my lack of knowledge to defeat fact and truth therefore I better call him an anti-Chinese and make myself looks clever by telling nonsense and unreasonable gabble blah blah blah".

 

[Andrei]

The existence of Xia Dynasty was not even 100% conformed, also if Zhou and Shang really did share the completely same culture, then why did Zhou people has to "變其俗革其禮". Besides Manchurian is/ was Chinese, Qing dynasty is even the first dynasty in Chinese history which firstly use the world "中國" as an official name of the whole country.

Any example of "abandoning advanced culture"? I can give you an example of how the advanced astronomy of Yuan was abandoned by its successor:

[中國曆法，本不及外國之精密，以故前元欽天監外，又有回回欽天監，本朝亦設回回司天監，有正儀大夫、司朔大夫、司元大夫等官。至洪武三十一年而廢之，以其 教歸並之，欽天但用彼國土板曆同算，久之則法亦不驗，與中士無異矣。國初，學天文有厲禁，習曆者遣戍，造曆者殊死。至孝宗弛其禁，且命徵山林隱逸能通曆學 者以備其選，而卒無應者。近年因日食分數不相符，督責欽天，但唯唯謝罪，以世學歲久無他術為解。而士大夫中，如參政刑雲鷺輩，俱精於天文，刻有成書，皆雲 勝僧一行及郭守敬諸人矣。然未曾用之推測也。禁中大榼輩，又自有內靈台，專司星象，其職任，其學業，大抵與外庭仿佛，皆土圭中糟粕耳。自利瑪竇入都，號精 象數，而士人李之藻等皆授其業，似當令兼領天文，如先朝儒臣童軒華湘等可也。]

Since when did Chinese science and technology was No1 in the world.
Guess who said this:

[中國人把所有的外國人都看作沒有知識的野蠻人，並且就用這樣的詞句來稱呼他們。他們甚至不屑 從外國人的書裡學習任何東西，因為他們相信只有他們自己才有真正的科學和知識。如果他們偶爾在他們的著述中有提到外國人的地方，他們也會把他們當作好像不 容置疑地和森林與原野裡的野獸差不多。甚至他們表示外國人這個詞的書面詞彙業和用於野獸的一樣，他們難得給外國人一個比他們加之於野獸的更尊貴的名稱。]


Can you even read 古文.

［金珠衣飾，書籍器皿，遍列通衢，其價甚賤。有錢買歸者，後獲大利。新太守張（按：張銚，偃 師人）住進士陳子龍宅。華亭縣陳鑑、海防楊之易，即忠臣楊漣長子，時雖剃髮，猶漢人衣冠，烏紗大帶，不改舊服也。餘以丁艱，不與科試，兼欲告閒，而同袍之 告退者不一人。學師欲索重價，餘以力綿中止。九月十三日，督鎮李成棟點驗各兵，餘與曹馳尹儒冠往觀之。李尚烏紗玉帶，用八座大轎，抬於門首，馬步卒皆疾趨 而過，軍威嚴肅，莫可名狀。］

Things Europe Never Invented: Ancient Chinese Inventions Pt1

 

[Snomannen]

Chinese invented gun, canon, rocket, missile, crossbow #2

Guess who said that ->［以上之外，有火磚，一窩鋒，地雷，千里炮，神槍等，百十名色，皆不切於守戰，故不備，今皆一切禁之。以節靡費，惟有子母炮，尚屬可用，未當終棄，亦一奇品也。］

More:
［倭制火銃，其藥極細，以火酒漬之，故其發速，又人善使，故發必中。中國有長技，而製之不精，與無技同。］

 

[jkroo]

@Andrei boy, keep showing your traditional Chinese costume.

In a forum, you don't need to convince everybody.

And if you are team work with people, don't choose those 猪队友。

 

[Snomannen]

so you want to try deny "剃发易服"? you want quotes? ok, i will show you lots


so just check how westerns documentry said, bbc and american discovery said.
Chinese invented gun, canon, rocket, missile, crossbow #1

Show me a single word I have typed that I want to "deny 剃发易服".
Ever passed any reading comprehension test at school?

And why don't you go check out how Ming people themselves described their very own great, advanced technology.

 

[Andrei]

Modern China is successor of Qing dynasty
and Modern Chinese is not same as Han Chinese,can you understand?

so what you mean? han chinese just want find back our traditional costume, why you afraid of that? did we say we hate modern Manchu? do we kill manchu now? so why you all against our revival of our own costume?

 

[Snomannen]

so what you mean? han chinese just want find back our traditional costume, why you afraid of that? did we say we hate modern Manchu? do we kill manchu now? so why you all against our revival of our own costume?

Who gave you the right to represent all Han Chinese.

 

[sahaliyan]

so what you mean? han chinese just want find back our traditional costume, why you afraid of that? did we say we hate modern Manchu? do we kill manchu now? so why you all against our revival of our own costume?

You just show your true colour in your posts,you said we Manchus only brought bad things to China,if we are so bad,why not you give up northeast,Inner Mongolia,Xinjiang and Tibet,all those regions were conquered by the Qing dynasty

 

[Snomannen]

Manchus were not Chinese before 1644 AD,but after 1644,Emperor Shunzhi became Chinese emperor,then Manchus became Chinese.
In Manchu language,in Qing dynasty records,they called their country as Dulimbai gurun simply meas China,in ROC era,the Xibes of Xinjiang call ROC as Dulimbai irgen gurun,irgen means people.

You know that the word "Chinese" is never only for Han people, right?

 

[Targon]

Modern China is successor of Qing dynasty
and Modern Chinese is not same as Han Chinese,can you understand?

Thats actually true even if some people declines, Qing dynasty was part of the cultural evolution of modern Chinese people, trying to preserve traditional elements is fine but that should start from what you left before adopting into western clothes. if a bride wears the traditional wedding clothes which were worn before western clothes few generations ago that would be fine, but if she tried to ignore part of the past and tried to wear clothes from few centuries ago that would be weird.

 

[sahaliyan]

You know that the word "Chinese" is never only for Han people, right?

I mean before Qing dynasty,the Jurchen-Manchus were not part of Imperial China,so they were not Chinese,but people like Zhuang and Bai are Chinese in Ming dynasty

 

[Andrei]

Who gave you the right to represent all Han Chinese.

so who give you right to against china and chinese culture? at least more than million han chinese want revival hanfu, that's why hanfu movement are all over the world now, and in malaysia especially more

Hanfu movement in Malaysia