Traditional chinese costume . We eliminate your misunderstanding of Chinese costume and hairstyle.

[Andrei]

Tell that to those authors and painters would you, especially that Japanese painter.
Would you just go downstairs and criticize them okay?

The Manchus imposed their rule on the Han Chinese who were the major inhabitants of China. The Ching ... It was illegal for Chinese and Manchu to inter-marry and the Chinese were forced to wear queues (pigtails) as a sign of submission.
This is a part of the book Manchukou by author S. Z. Ahmed

 

[Snomannen]

The Manchus imposed their rule on the Han Chinese who were the major inhabitants of China. The Ching ... It was illegal for Chinese and Manchu to inter-marry and the Chinese were forced to wear queues (pigtails) as a sign of submission.
This is a part of the book Manchukou by author S. Z. Ahmed

Indeed forcing Han people to wear pigtails was an unacceptable and unreasonable policy.

 

[Andrei]

Lol it's more funnier most Hans I met don't give a shit about this movement,so you can't force them to accept your views neither,and for many Hans,唐装马褂旗袍also part of national dresses.You have no right to represent other Han Chinese,you can try to let them accept Hanfu,but you can't represent them

the most chinese just thought 旗袍马褂 are traditional chinese custome, that's why hanfu movement is very important, and we never force others do this, we just normal people, do we hat military power to force others do this? of course not, but when han chinese know the history of hanfu, they will all accept it, that's why you worry about hanfu movement. and that's why more and more hanfu movement in china, and more and more chinese accept it, because they know real han chinese culture and costume

Indeed forcing Han people to wear pigtails was an unacceptable and unreasonable policy.

good that you know it is unreasonable , so why you against all the time? we just save our culture, what's wrong with you? and it is none business with you, why you against?

 

[sahaliyan]

the most chinese just thought 旗袍马褂 are traditional chinese custome, that's why hanfu movement is very important, and we never force others do this, we just normal people, do we hat military power to force others do this? of course not, but when han chinese know the history of hanfu, they will all accept it, that's why you worry about hanfu movement. and that's why more and more hanfu movement in china, and more and more chinese accept it, because they know real han chinese culture and costume

Don't quote me,I don't want to argue with a narrow minded person who know little history,just read some internet articles not means you know history

 

[Snomannen]

Lol it's more funnier most Hans I met don't give a shit about this movement,so you can't force them to accept your views neither,and for many Hans,唐装马褂旗袍also part of national dresses.You have no right to represent other Han Chinese,you can try to let them accept Hanfu,but you can't represent them

It is also interesting that how this kind of people loves to represent all Han Chinese, also it's amazing that they have the power to identify the national identity of other people from the other side of the computer -even though they always get wrong.

My suggestion to him is to keep ignore what he won't hear or see for the rest of his life, so that he can be in his own dream and be happy forever.

 

[Andrei]

Don't quote me,I don't want to argue with a narrow minded person who know little history,just read some internet articles not means you know history

because i will stop you lying and misleading others here. i know more than you. more history what manchu did in qing dynasty, all those you never can accept your ancestors behavior in war and you never can dare admitte it

It is also interesting that how this kind of people loves to represent all Han Chinese, also it's amazing that they have the power to identify the national identity of other people from the other side of the computer -even though they always get wrong.

My suggestion to him is to keep ignore what he won't hear or see for the rest of his life, so that he can be in his own dream and be happy forever.

说到你们的痛楚了？本来我只是想介绍汉服文化，那么你们満遗那么害怕，那么的反击，引起了我的兴趣，我接下来会专门写满族入关是如何到处屠城的，比日本人还要残忍

 

[sahaliyan]

because i will stop you lying and misleading others here. i know more than you. more history what manchu did in qing dynasty, all those you never can accept your ancestors behavior in war and you never can dare admitte it

Now things became funnier,now please point out what I lied?You can serch my posts and post here
My attitude is clear,there are good and bad things happened in Qing dynasty,and we should have balanced view,what lie or misleading here?

 

[Targon]

the most chinese just thought 旗袍马褂 are traditional chinese custome, that's why hanfu movement is very important, and we never force others do this, we just normal people, do we hat military power to force others do this? of course not, but when han chinese know the history of hanfu, they will all accept it, that's why you worry about hanfu movement. and that's why more and more hanfu movement in china, and more and more chinese accept it, because they know real han chinese culture and costume


good that you know it is unreasonable , so why you against all the time? we just save our culture, what's wrong with you? and it is none business with you, why you against?

If its not been your culture for hundreds of years, its not your culture anymore, what you do is just like reenacting or cosplaying, not reviving recently lost culture.

 

[Andrei]

It is also interesting that how this kind of people loves to represent all Han Chinese, also it's amazing that they have the power to identify the national identity of other people from the other side of the computer -even though they always get wrong.

My suggestion to him is to keep ignore what he won't hear or see for the rest of his life, so that he can be in his own dream and be happy forever.

did i say i represent all han chinese? what are you afraid of ? haha, i just tell the true history, so you can not reperesnt others too

 

[Snomannen]

good that you know it is unreasonable , so why you against all the time? we just save our culture, what's wrong with you? and it is none business with you, why you against?

You wanna save your culture with lies and rumors? Are you kidding me.
I criticize a lot of bad thing happened in Chinese history, such as how Han people bullied minorities during the past; how Qing rulers forced Han people to shave their hair; how Mongolian massacred Jin and other people in the world; how Mao messed up China and the goddamn 10 years of catastrophe; how the racist 革命黨 massacred Manchurian and northern Han Chinese etc, etc. 剃髮令 is just one of them.

Why isn't that my business, I'm a Chinese. It's my responsibility to care my country.

 

[Andrei]

If its not been your culture for hundreds of years, its not your culture anymore, what you do is just like reenacting or cosplaying, not reviving recently lost culture.

just ask why people revival olympic games, and why people revival hebrew language, because it is our culture, each nation save their culture, why chinese can't ? so funny

You wanna save your culture with lies and rumors? Are you kidding me.
I criticize a lot of bad thing happened in Chinese history, such as how Han people bullied minorities during the past; how Qing rulers forced Han people to shave their hair; how Mongolian massacred Jin and other people in the world; how Mao messed up China and the goddamn 10 years of catastrophe; how the racist 革命黨 massacred Manchurian and northern Han Chinese etc, etc. 剃髮令 is just one of them.

Why isn't that my business, I'm a Chinese. It's my responsibility to care my country.

you are not chinese, because you are a manchu, so funny, you even deny how manchu killed chinese in qing dynasty.. so fucking disgusting

 

[Snomannen]

did i say i represent all han chinese? what are you afraid of ? haha, i just tell the true history, so you can not reperesnt others too

I never say that I am a representative of anyone

No you didn't say that, but you people did, few minutes ago:

[It's really funny how a tiny minority can deny an overwhelming majority native people's right to choose what they want to wear]

Yeah yeah Falon Gong also always say that the CCP is afraid of them. So yeah I'm reakky afraid of you, happy now?
Ture history?

you are not chinese, because you are a manchu, so funny, you even deny how manchu killed chinese in qing dynasty.. so fucking disgusting

If I'm a Manchurian, I'm still a Chinese you silly head~
Which words of mine ever deny Manchurian killed Han people in Qing dynasty, why are yo so eager to make fabrications, why.

 

[sahaliyan]

Manchus aren't Chinese,Tibetans aren't,Uyghurs aren't,sound like those 反华政客 in the west,this is the true colour of those Han racists

 

[Andrei]

I never say that I am a representative of anyone

No you didn't say that, but you people did, few minutes ago:

[It's really funny how a tiny minority can deny an overwhelming majority native people's right to choose what they want to wear]

Yeah yeah Falon Gong also always say that the CCP is afraid of them. So yeah I'm reakky afraid of you, happy now?
Ture history?



If I'm a Manchurian, I'm still a Chinese you silly head~
Which words of mine ever deny Manchurian killed Han people in Qing dynasty, why are yo so eager to make fabrications, why.

then what are you doing here? so fucking stupid, you deny what manchu did in qing dynasty and maliciously distorting this article, so what do you want do?

 

[Snomannen]

说到你们的痛楚了？本来我只是想介绍汉服文化，那么你们満遗那么害怕，那么的反击，引起了我的兴趣，我接下来会专门写满族入关是如何到处屠城的，比日本人还要残忍

Massacre you say:

「傑 (高傑, a general of Ming dynasty) 得城內百姓則殺之，若居城外者截右耳，殺人甚眾；米物騰貴，民不聊生。揚之屬邑泰興，故撫朱一馮家在焉。傑兵入，啟地三層，得藏金八十萬而去；朱以是貧困，將所居宅廬悉鬻於同邑紳士李寓庸雲。」

「劉澤清 (a general of Ming dynasty) ，字鶴洲。白面朱唇，貌頗美。崇禎時，為總兵官。癸未七月，請於青、登諸山開礦煎 銀；著巡撫設法。甲申二月，移鎮彰德。賊警急，召吳三桂、唐通與澤清等將兵入援；三桂、澤清不奉詔。三月，兵科韓如愈奉差至東昌，澤清遣兵殺之；曰：『尚 能論我主將否也』？為山東總兵，虛報捷，賞銀五十兩；又詭言墮馬被傷，復賞藥資四十兩。命即扼真定，澤清不從；即於是日大掠臨清。統兵南下，所至焚劫一 空。三月十六日上泣，方、魏二相請對封清為安東伯，上不應。五月十二日，澤清以數百人大掠瓜州。淮安自路振飛、王燮同心戮力，頗成鞏固。振飛去後，澤清突 來盤踞，散遣義士，桀驁者藉之部下，搶劫村落一空。與淮撫田仰，日肆歡飲。北兵南下，有問其如何禦者？澤清曰：『吾擁立福王而來，以此供我休息；萬一有 事，吾自擇江南一郡去耳』。八月，澤清大興土木，造宅淮安，極其壯麗；四時之寶俱備，僭擬皇居。休卒淮上，無意北往。田仰猶屢為請餉；宏光以東南餉額不滿 五百萬，江北已給三百六十萬，豈能以有限之財、供無已之求！命仰與澤清通融措辨。」

「初，黃得功分地揚州，高傑、劉澤清以繁富爭之；縱兵淫掠，揚人大哄。得功兵至天長，傑、澤清欲拒；又值李棲鳳、高文昌兵至，眾心洶洶。元吉移得功書，期共戮力王室；得功自明無他，欲聯絡各鎮鼓勇殺賊。元吉以得功書馳示傑等，始肯相戢。然傑部悍，終不自製。」

「揚州初被高傑屠害二次，殺人無算．及豫王至，復盡屠之．總計前後殺人凡八十萬，誠生民一大劫也。」

--《明季南略》

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