Tillerson: Terror Group Ties Could Cost Pakistan Territorial Control

[imadul]

I read it differently. He is warning Pakistan about loosing territory to American aggression directly or with the support of recently ferried ISIS terrorists from Iraq and Syria into Afghanistan as per allegations of former Afghan President and Ally of the Americans who is no friend of Pakistan. together perhaps with BLA and TTP support.
time and again Americans have expressed no desire in Peace but continuing with this perpetual war, there is no intention of bringing this conflict to closure and no set time to leave the region. on one hand America demands Pakistan to help bringing Afghan taliban to negotiating table but on the same time targets their negotiators or leaders and stalling the negotiations time and again. it targets them through its assassins or drones sites preferably inside Pakistan and uses the incidence as a proof against Pakistan's collusion hiding the fact that Pakistan was supposed to be helping with negotiations on American requests and the people representing the adversaries are accorded safety.


that is correct. Americans are warning Pakistan of same tactics used against Iraq and Syria and as Karzai has claimed that Americans themselves have brought their new version of Al Qaeda via Helicopters into Afghanistan, so they intend to use them against Pakistan and Iran alike.


militarily its no problem for them.

it might seem impossible from the safety of your room behind the computer but we have third world military aimed mainly to defend against India.


they are not waiting. our men are being killed in Ambushes and IED blasts. Americans can repeat the Salala incident whenever they want. there is simply no contest here. Americans have full spectrum dominance over Russia and China. we are no where close so lets not be too generous when boasting and daring a super power.


Chinese are businessmen not fighters. the best they do is some kicking and stone throwing contest with Indians over their border dispute.

they wont risk their trillion dollar investments with America for Pakistan

All thanks to Great Commando Mushi.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Therefore, I remain quite sure that both sides will be able to work out a policy that works well.

this is why we are still on the same side despite mutual misgivings. if it was up to the media figures and online commentators from both sides of the country then we would have been engaged in a military conflict for a very short time with lasting consequences for Pakistan beyond our collective lifespan.

I saw an interview of a former CIA deputy director from 80s to 90s sorry i forgot his name , he mentioned the relation of CIA and ISI as allies in most cases but not hesitating to trip or shove each other when they had conflicting interests. he went as far as equating the two agencies as 2 scorpions in a glass jar but overall he was positive and acknowledged that both agencies always worked towards common ground nonetheless

 

[Yaseen1]

territory lost will result in nuking india israel and u.s bases

 

[rustom]

territory lost will result in nuking india israel and u.s bases

That is how brain dead people think.

 

[ARMalik]

Tillerson is getting desperate. He knows perfectly well that US has been trying this for the past 16 years to do exactly this and has failed miserably. They couldn't do anything when Pakistan was much weaker than today. Frankly they can do jack shi..t except issuing statements which will further worsen mutual ties.

 

[graphican]

When USA speaks in public before media, that means they have already failed on the ground and also on the discussion tables. Just saying.

 

[jaydee]

He's talking about the fact Pakistan's eastern and western borders aren't recognized.

The fact that Afghanistan contests the Durand Line you're probably aware of. What you're not aware of is that China doesn't recognize a dividing line between Chinese and Pakistani territory, only between "Chinese territory" and "territory under the control of the Pakistani Army". (That is, China recognizes the Pakistani Army as sovereign, not the State.) Furthermore, under UNSCR 1373 member-states who lose control of territory to terrorists are not considered to claim sovereign rights when others attack terrorists there.

So if, for example, effective Pakistani control is lost in adjacent parts of the CPEC corridor China can claim the right by treaty to occupy and exercise soverign control of said territory - it would be an issue between India and China, rather than Pakistan. And if Pakistan loses control of the Durand Line then Afghan forces could intervene under 1373 and then remain indefinitely, pointing out that Afghanistan doesn't recognize the DL as an official border, anyway.

And if Iran will chop Israel in half then Iran will have sovereign rights over that territory.

 

[idune]

Tillerson: US Terror Group Ties Could Cost Pakistan Territorial Control


https://www.voanews.com/a/us-terror-group-ties-could-cost-pakistan-territorial-control/4162032.html

A simple correction is made to reflect what US secretary of state intended to say.

 

[LeGenD]

If America was in position of placing sanctions they would never make open threats they would call the PM if did not listened they would place sanctions.

US has imposed economic sanctions on Russia since the Ukraine Chapter, and here you are boasting about invincibility of Pakistan. Seriously, man?

Russia is weathering the storm due to being a major oil-producing and exporting economy but its GDP has taken considerable hit and Vladimir Putin is not happy (rightfully so).

Pakistan is relatively a very weak and vulnerable economy, mind you. Even CPEC is far from making meaningful difference for us.

SOP of the US is to issue warning(s) before taking any action. Let us hope that the situation does not escalate beyond warnings.

After all we have done, these warnings are puzzling and hurting.

 

[VCheng]

After all we have done, these warnings are puzzling and hurting.

Sir, when *all* that Pakistan has done is taken into account, the warnings are only to be *expected*.

 

[django]

I saw an interview of a former CIA deputy director from 80s to 90s sorry i forgot his name , he mentioned the relation of CIA and ISI as allies in most cases but not hesitating to trip or shove each other when they had conflicting interests. he went as far as equating the two agencies as 2 scorpions in a glass jar but overall he was positive and acknowledged that both agencies always worked towards common ground nonetheless

Milton Bearden I believe.

This guy just shows he is just a lunatic twin of trump.
Django bhai many people here did not actually read news content and responded only to the headline, from the headline it seems taht usa is threatening to attakc pakistan(which seems like a hidden warning definitely present there) but this is the statement this tillerson made

"The secretary said he had warned Pakistani leaders that the terrorist groups might turn their attention from Kabul and decide they like Islamabad better as a target. He cautioned, "If they're not careful, Pakistan is going to lose control of their own country"

In essence, he is suggesting that those alleged grouos that he believe are sitting in pakistan; which he mentioned as haqqani network and afghan talibans (who are actually fighting in afghanistan) might feel that islamabad is a better target so they will atttack pakistan sitting on our soil and will capture our territory .
I mean seriously how can someone be so freaking ***** that he makes such immature statement.

This is such a media war thing,t hat paint before the world that pakistan hosts terror grouos and is so weak itself that if ose groups want to take over pakistan they can easily attack our region. These grouos donot even have the resource to launch a war on us and they are fighting with so much dedication in afghanistan only cause afghanistan is haqqanis and afghan talibs homeland.

Also thats clearly point towards usa frustartion in failing to destabilize pakistan and that they are looking for any small excuses to launch soem war against us, also that they are secretly importing isis into afghanistan to start a new proxy offensive against us.

@Areesh

MOD EDIT: Inappropriate Language/Personal Attack

What we can take from this is to expect more and more attacks (from CIA/RAW/NDS nexus and their acolytes) in the coming months to destroy confidence in CPEC related projects, the Yanks want to inhibit Chinese expansion in the region and keep Pakistan destabilized in order to give them some absurd pretext to remain in the the region for the continued future, we have all heard talk of nukes falling into he hands of jihadists, LOL as if goat herding hillbillies could start of a nuclear chain reaction.Kudos yaar

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

LMAO

A simple correction is made to reflect what US secretary of state intended to say.