Three Turkish opposition MPs expelled from office and arrested

[Peaceful Civilian]

Turkey doesn't need to have good relation with US, China ora Russia, Turkey only need to be strong & stronger...

You can't become stronger when you create more enemies. Atleast be neutral in international affairs and work for best interest of country instead of poking nose everywhere. You are pretending & in fake delusion that you are Allah, you don't need anyone. Come out from delusional world

 

[Rogue1]

More you move away from secularism, more you will fall. These 20 years are worst in history of turkey i.e full of violence , & bloodshed. You have no good relation with any superpower. U.S A, China or Russia. Even 4 year old can see Your policies are confused, your diplomatic policies are failed, your image is negative whenever anyone name your country in U.N.
Turkey need secular leader. I am sure, Brave turkey people don't accept ban on freedom of speech and such confused policies. Secularism is only way to move forward, to make country rise , for peaceful shining future, prosperity & stability in policies.

If you want to debate about the politics of Turkey, you need to get a broader view of Turkey. It appears that you are just echoing what you hear about Turkey in the Western media. And to be quite honest, Turkey is given a similar if not worse image than Russia and they are supposed NATO allies. If you see any article about Turkey on any Western platform you will see an anti-Turkey rhetoric.

Just one recent example is that Turkey sent medical aid to the UK. How many media organisations reported it? Very few. Then the UK tried to order PPE from Turkish companies and when shipment doesn't arrive in lightening speed (next day) they blame the Turkish Government that had removed the sale restriction anyway (and had nothing to do with the private company sale).

When the PPE arrives they have stories in all media outlets that the PPE was substandard and couldn't be used. This turned out not to be true and also had little to do with the Turkish Government as they had ordered from a private company.

Did you learn about Turkey from these stories?

And you talk about secularism. What is Secularism? Is it the restriction of the religious rights and freedoms of people with religion.

Turkey's secularism meant that a woman who chose to wear a headscarf could not attend university or have a government job. This is just a small example.
Now name me one secular state that forbids women to wear headscarf for university or employment.

Also what is it about AK Party that is not secular? What do they do that makes them non secular? Can you answer this?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

If you want to debate about the politics of Turkey, you need to get a broader view of Turkey. It appears that you are just echoing what you hear about Turkey in the Western media. And to be quite honest, Turkey is given a similar if not worse image than Russia and they are supposed NATO allies. If you see any article about Turkey on any Western platform you will see an anti-Turkey rhetoric.

Just one recent example is that Turkey sent medical aid to the UK. How many media organisations reported it? Very few. Then the UK tried to order PPE from Turkish companies and when shipment doesn't arrive in lightening speed (next day) they blame the Turkish Government that had removed the sale restriction anyway (and had nothing to do with the private company sale).

When the PPE arrives they have stories in all media outlets that the PPE was substandard and couldn't be used. This turned out not to be true and also had little to do with the Turkish Government as they had ordered from a private company.

Did you learn about Turkey from these stories?

And you talk about secularism. What is Secularism? Is it the restriction of the religious rights and freedoms of people with religion.

Turkey's secularism meant that a woman who chose to wear a headscarf could not attend university or have a government job. This is just a small example.
Now name me one secular state that forbids women to wear headscarf for university or employment.

Also what is it about AK Party that is not secular? What do they do that makes them non secular? Can you answer this?

Tehran relies on Turkish banks for terror attacks.

https://nypost.com/2019/09/23/turkey-is-now-a-haven-for-terrorists-and-an-enabler-of-terrorism/amp/

Mustafa kamal demanded turkishness to define his state but not other notions, while PKK demanded independent state. PKK IS Not loyal to turkey as power hungry erdogan is also not. He can even destroy diplomatic relation with whole world if he see he gain more votes. For him personal interest comes first than country. He has ruined hard work of 70 years due to hard islamist line.
Both PKK and erdogan are not loyal to country . Different page but same coin .

 

[MMM-E]

You can't become stronger when you create more enemies

Turks led by Erdogan defend themselves
and We can not become stronger when we are slaves to the US or Russia-China

1) The US support PKK terror organization against Turkiye since 1991
and since 2013 The US support YPG terror organization to create terror corridor in Syria against Turkiye
also the US support bandit countries France,Greece,Israel,Egypt to steal oil/gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

2) Turkiye led by Erdogan is not enemy to Russia
3) Turkiye led by Erdogan is not enemy to China


and until Erdogan Turkiye was so poor undeveloped 3rd world country who paid trillion dollar to international interest lobby between 1961 and 2002
In 2001, 47.2% of total budget expenditures were interest expenditures

but ERDOGAN lowered interest rates from 24% to 4,9% between 2003 and 2013 .. and for the first time, the ratio of interest expenditures to budget expenditures fell below 10%

so Erdogan saved our 700 billion TL ( $330 billion ) from blood sucker international interest lobby between 2003 and 2013

therefore ERDOGAN modernize whole Turkey , therefore led by Erdogan Turkey develops around 700 military projects for over $70 billion





the US stopped real patriotic leaders with military coups in 1960,1971,1980,1997 and last one is against Erdogan in 2016 .. but the US first time failed in Turkiye

Turkey and Austria had almost same GDP in 2002
but 2019 Turkey had $776 billion of GDP .... Austria had $455 billion

also in 2002 ... 9x Turkey = 1 Germany and in 2019 5x Turkey = 1 Germany

2002 Turkey $230 billion and Germany : $2.06 trillion
2019 Turkey $766 billion and Germany : $3.89 trillion

even since 2013 Turkey and Turkish economy under attack and Turkish currency dropped by 320% ( by 2013 Turkey had $865 billion of GDP )

-- 2013 Gezi Park rebellion
-- 2013 FETO's judical coup attemp
-- 2015 PKK's big rebellion in 22 cities
-- 2015-17 ISIS's 14 major terror attacks in Turkey
-- 2016 FETO's military coup attempt
-- 2017-2018 TRUMP's attack on Turkish Economy

you can fool only anti Erdogan guys

 

[bsruzm]

Mustafa kamal

You can't even spell his name

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

You can't even spell his name

Oh I forget, somewhere English competition is going on.

 

[bsruzm]

Oh I forget, somewhere English competition is going on.

Better quit.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Erdogan make Turkiye independent and great again

and why all enemies of Turkish People attack Erdogan ?

because of Turkiye led by Erdogan is fighting against the US,Israel,France,Russia,Iran,KSA,Egypt,the Uae , PKK,FETO,ASSAD,HAFTAR in Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean


İf the US backed FETO destroyed Erdogan between 2013 and 2016 , then

NO Nuclear Power Plant in Turkey
NO TURK STREAM gas pipeline project with Russia
NO Mega projects like Istanbul Airport , Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge , Kanal Istanbul , 34 City Hospital , etc
NO Military projects like UCAV , TFX Fighter Jet , ATAK-II heavy Attack Helicopter and many more
NO Military operation in Syria to block PKK/YPG terror corridor
NO Military bases in Qatar,Somali,Iraq
NO Military operation in Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean to protect national interests
NO any efforts to fight FETO
NO kicking IMF out of Turkiye
NO saving our hundreds of billions of Dollars from blood sucker international interest lobby
etc
etc





full of lies and butthurt feelings by losers .... keep crying

we Turks dont need puppet leaders who worked always for American-Israeli-European interests

Erdogan is a fool, ruined the relationship with literally everyone. Ruined the F-35 deal, just to buy the S-400, a system that cannot be integrated into your air defense radar systems, from Russia that probably killed 30 Turkish soldiers and is acting as an ally of yoir enemy.

Ruined a perfecly healthy relationship with Israel, for Palestinians that call you traitors just because you once were an Israeli ally. The same Palestinians that are allied with Hezbollah and Iran, and are actively fighting in Syria against Turkish forces.

None of those political decisions make any sense at all.

Turkish economy suffered a lot under him.

Etc etc.

 

[MMM-E]

Erdogan is a fool, ruined İ the relationship with literally everyone. Ruined the F-35 deal, just to buy the S-400, a system that cannot be integrated into your air defense radar systems, from Russia that probably killed 30 Turkish soldiers and is acting as an ally of yoir enemy.

ERDOGAN defend Turkiye from bandit countries and their terrorists


and what about our so-called NATO ally the US ?

The US killed thousands of Turkish soldiers and citizens via PKK terror organization since 1991
even The US gave over 50.000 trucks and cargo planes of weapons to PKK/YPG terror organization in Syria to kill Turkish soldiers and citizens for Israeli interests


btw S400 deal was response the US who used FETO terror organization to destroy president Erdogan by military coup in 2016

and I remind you that The US did not sale PATRIOT Air Defense System to Turkiye and Turkiye needs Air Defense System to protect its national interests and MAVI VATAN in the Eastern Mediterranean

Ruined a perfecly healthy relationship with Israel.

Turkish economy suffered a lot under him.

Etc etc.

1) ERDOGAN saved Turkish Armed Forces under the foot of the US-Israel
( the US stopped real patriotic leaders with military coups in 1960,1971,1980,1997 and last one is against Erdogan in 2016 .. but the US first time failed in Turkiye )

also led by ERDOGAN Turkish military projects have risen to almost 700 from 66 between 2002 and 2020 to replace American-Israeli-European Weapons

also led by ERDOGAN Turkish military kicked all enemies in Iraq,Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean


2) ERDOGAN saved our 700 billion TL ( $330 billion ) from blood sucker international interest lobby between 2003 and 2013

until Erdogan Turkiye paid trillion dollar to international interest lobby between 1961 and 2002
In 2001, 47.2% of total budget expenditures were interest expenditures

but ERDOGAN lowered interest rates from 24% to 4,9% between 2003 and 2013 .. and for the first time, the ratio of interest expenditures to budget expenditures fell below 10%


therefore ERDOGAN modernize whole Turkey , therefore led by Erdogan Turkey develops around 700 military projects for over $70 billion


ERDOGAN is gift to Turkish People after ATATURK
if ATATURK or ERDOGAN ruled Turkey between 1923 and 2020 , then Turkey would be similar to the UK,France,,Germany today

 

[Beny Karachun]

ERDOGAN defend Turkiye from bandit countries and their terrorists


and what about our so-called NATO ally the US ?

The US killed thousands of Turkish soldiers and citizens via PKK terror organization since 1991
even The US gave over 50.000 trucks and cargo planes of weapons to PKK/YPG terror organization in Syria to kill Turkish soldiers and citizens for Israeli interests


btw S400 deal was response the US who used FETO terror organization to destroy president Erdogan by military coup in 2016

and I remind you that The US did not sale PATRIOT Air Defense System to Turkiye and Turkiye needs Air Defense System to protect its national interests and MAVI VATAN in the Eastern Mediterranean







1) ERDOGAN saved Turkish Armed Forces under the foot of the US-Israel
( the US stopped real patriotic leaders with military coups in 1960,1971,1980,1997 and last one is against Erdogan in 2016 .. but the US first time failed in Turkiye )

also led by ERDOGAN Turkish military projects have risen to almost 700 from 66 between 2002 and 2020 to replace American-Israeli-European Weapons

also led by ERDOGAN Turkish military kicked all enemies in Iraq,Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean


2) ERDOGAN saved our 700 billion TL ( $330 billion ) from blood sucker international interest lobby between 2003 and 2013

until Erdogan Turkiye paid trillion dollar to international interest lobby between 1961 and 2002
In 2001, 47.2% of total budget expenditures were interest expenditures

but ERDOGAN lowered interest rates from 24% to 4,9% between 2003 and 2013 .. and for the first time, the ratio of interest expenditures to budget expenditures fell below 10%


therefore ERDOGAN modernize whole Turkey , therefore led by Erdogan Turkey develops around 700 military projects for over $70 billion


ERDOGAN is gift to Turkish People after ATATURK
if ATATURK or ERDOGAN ruled Turkey between 1923 and 2020 , then Turkey would be similar to the UK,France,,Germany today

You pretty much totally ignored my claims.
Erdogan's manuevers are foolish and you can't deny that. But he ends up working for Israeli interests so whatever. Do our job in Syria against Hezbollah and Iran.

Ataturk is a 1000 times smarter than Erdogan.

 

[himate]

We dont need friends like US, Russa, China, Israel and others. We need to be strong and pursue our own interest. When one pursues its own interest such as military and economic independence there bound to be enemies all around who don't like to see that. Turkey don't want to be a shining example for a puppet of others. The Libyan intervention is a prime example when Turkey pursues its own interest. InshaAllah there will be more like this the more Turkey gets stronger. To stop turkey they try to stop Erdogan

You pretty much totally ignored my claims.
Erdogan's manuevers are foolish and you can't deny that. But he ends up working for Israeli interests so whatever. Do our job in Syria against Hezbollah and Iran.

Ataturk is a 1000 times smarter than Erdogan.

I wonder why all our enemies love Ataturk?

 

[Beny Karachun]

We dont need friends like US, Russa, China, Israel and others. We need to be strong and pursue our own interest. When one pursues its own interest such as military and economic independence there bound to be enemies all around who don't like to see that. Turkey don't want to be a shining example for a puppet of others. The Libyan intervention is a prime example when Turkey pursues its own interest. InshaAllah there will be more like this the more Turkey gets stronger. To stop turkey they try to stop Erdogan



I wonder why all our enemies love Ataturk?

Because all of your enemies weren't your enemies when Ataturk was the leader, and pretty much until Erdogan.

 

[CAN_TR]

To stop turkey they try to stop Erdogan

Nobody harms Erdogan more than the leeches he gathered around himself inclusive his retarded sons not even the famous "dis gücleri".

I wonder why all our enemies love Ataturk?

I doubt that any country or any organization loves Atatürk, but respecting his smart policy, his struggle, and his words is something different.

But you wouldn't understand it anyways buddy...

 

[himate]

You pretty much totally ignored my claims.
Erdogan's manuevers are foolish and you can't deny that. But he ends up working for Israeli interests so whatever. Do our job in Syria against Hezbollah and Iran.

Ataturk is a 1000 times smarter than Erdogan.

I like to add that Israel is also a secret supporter of Assad. We know the game that's being played from the beginning.

 

[mike2000 is back]

The journalists were mostly Feto

Where they not Erdogans closest allies before they fell out? Does that mean Erdogan was allies for a long time with terrorists ? If yes, then he too must answer to the law NO?