This is Taliban country

[Zarvan]

no i was merely trying to say, that if it can happen in the old days, why not now? where did people like the Taliban crop up from with their own version of Sharia? were they not present in the olden days?

Mr for your information Jaanbaz Sir he is a Ahmedi so you should know the background when he says Mullah declares any one kafir

 

[Jaanbaz]

no i was merely trying to say, that if it can happen in the old days, why not now? where did people like the Taliban crop up from with their own version of Sharia? were they not present in the olden days?

You need to reread history again mate. Have you forgotten the Kharajites?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Mr for your information Jaanbaz Sir he is a Ahmedi so you should know the background when he says Mullah declares any one kafir

Hey who ranks higher on the Kafirometer? A Hindu or an Ahmedi? No offence, just curious.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Hey who ranks higher on the Kafirometer? A Hindu or an Ahmedi? No offence, just curious.

I think it depends on the Mullah too.

I think its something like this, number one being the worst:

1. Jews
2. Ahmadi
3. Shia
4. Hindus
5. Athiests
6. Christians(its okay to get aid from Christians because they are people of the book)
7. All other peaceful Muslims

 

[Jf Thunder]

You need to reread history again mate. Have you forgotten the Kharajites?

they cropped up during the downfall, not the early stages

Mr for your information Jaanbaz Sir he is a Ahmedi so you should know the background when he says Mullah declares any one kafir

woah, i didnt know that lol, but we havent discussed anything like that

 

[Zarvan]

they cropped up during the downfall, not the early stages


woah, i didnt know that lol, but we havent discussed anything like that

When he says Mullah declare any one kafir means declared Ahmedis non Muslim

 

[Jf Thunder]

When he says Mullah declare any one kafir means declared Ahmedis non Muslim

that was a step i appreciated, but i still dont like taliban

 

[EyanKhan]

Look how happy @Zarvan is.

I propose a motion to send zarvan there for atleast a year ?
Let's see how much he likes the "good taliban" ?

 

[Zarvan]

I propose a motion to send zarvan there for atleast a year ?
Let's see how much he likes the "good taliban" ?

I am more interested in hunting down Indian Forces I am more focused on that mission which I hope to do soon INSHALLAH

 

[Jaanbaz]

I am more interested in hunting down Indian Forces I am more focused on that mission which I hope to do soon INSHALLAH

I hope you get captured by some large Sikh man and from there you will forget who you are.

they cropped up during the downfall, not the early stages

Downfall? Please re read history.

 

[Pakistani E]

Mr for your information Jaanbaz Sir he is a Ahmedi so you should know the background when he says Mullah declares any one kafir

Your past forebears declared all these righteous people kafirs long before any sign of the founding of Ahmadiyya movement. Please consult a history book before attempting to sound intellectual.


Abu Hanifa: He was disgraced, called ignorant, inventor of new beliefs, hypocrite and kafir. He was imprisoned and poisoned. He died in 150 A.H. [circa 768 C.E.].

Imam Shafi`i: He was called devil and imprisoned. Prayers were said for his death. He was taken in captivity from Yemen to Baghdad, in a condition of humiliation and degradation. He died in 204 A.H. [circa 820 C.E.].

Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal: He was kept in prison for 28 months, with a heavy chain around his feet. He was publicly humiliated, slapped and spat upon. Every evening he used to be flogged. All this was because of the controversy regarding whether the Quran was `uncreated' or `created'.

Imam Malik: A resident of Madina, he too was imprisoned and flogged.

Bukhari [Collector of Hadith]: He was exiled and died in 256 A.H. [circa 871 C.E.].

Nasa'i [Collector of Hadith]: He was disgraced and beaten in a mosque so much that he died.

Abdul Qadir Jilani [Saint of Baghdad, d. 1166 C.E.] was called kafir by the jurists.

Muhiyud-Din Ibn Arabi [great philosopher and saint, d. 1240 C.E.]: The Ulama issued a fatwa against him saying: ``His unbelief is greater than that of Jews and Christians''. All his followers were declared kafir, so much so that those who doubted his unbelief were called kafir.

Rumi, Jami and Attar [now world famous Muslim saints and writers of Persia] were called kafir, and anyone not calling them kafir was also called kafir.

Imam Ghazali [philosopher and mujaddid, d. 1111 C.E.] was called kafir, and burning his books and cursing him was declared a good deed.

Ibn Taimiyya [Muslim philosopher and mujaddid, d. 1327 C.E.]: The King of Egypt asked for a fatwa to put him to death.

Hafiz ibn Qayyimimprisoned and exiled.

Shaikh Ahmad of Sirhind [d. 1624 C.E., mujaddid in India]: called kafir.

Shah Wali-ullah [d. 1763 C.E., mujaddid in India]: called inventor of new beliefs and misguided.

Sayyid Ahmad Barelvi [d. 1831 C.E., mujaddid and military leader in India]: called kafir.

Shah Ismail Shaheed [deputy of above mujaddid]: Fatwas of heresy against him obtained from Makka."

 

[Jf Thunder]

I hope you get captured by some large Sikh man and from there you will forget who you are.



Downfall? Please re read history.

dude, the end of the Rashidun claiphate, becuz Hazrat Ali peroid was pretty much disturbed

 

[Jaanbaz]

dude, the end of the Rashidun claiphate, becuz Hazrat Ali peroid was pretty much disturbed

What the hell are you talking about bhai?

 

[Jf Thunder]

What the hell are you talking about bhai?

the rule of Hazrat Ali (R.A) was turbulent?

 

[DRaisinHerald]

I think it depends on the Mullah too.

I think its something like this, number one being the worst:

1. Jews
2. Ahmadi
3. Shia
4. Hindus
5. Athiests
6. Christians(its okay to get aid from Christians because they are people of the book)
7. All other peaceful Muslims

Depending on the Mullah, you might as well include most Sunnis on that list! Basically anyone who is not going to follow the said-Mullah.