This French Politician Now Has Problem with Whom Muslim Women Chose as Their Life Partner

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

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This guy is annoyed that Muslim women are not breeding with the blacks like white women are. However, there are lots of racial dynamics at play here. There are LOTS of racial generalities that need to be addressed. GENERALLY SPEAKING, the following is true:

(1) white women are very sexually attracted to black men the most but not so with other non-white men.

(2) non-black men are NOT sexually attracted to black women.

(3) East Asian and indian, particularly hindu and sikh females are attracted to white men.

(4) Muslim women are very much attracted to Muslim men and are by and large disgusted by non-Muslim men particularly whites, blacks and indians.

(5) Not including East Asian women, white men are not physically or sexually attracted to non-white women.

(6) Out of ALL the races on earth, Brown/Olive-skinned Muslim people are the LEAST likely to race-mix.

 

[jamahir]

This guy is annoyed that Muslim women are not breeding with the blacks like white women are. However, there are lots of racial dynamics at play here. There are LOTS of racial generalities that need to be addressed. GENERALLY SPEAKING, the following is true:

(1) white women are very sexually attracted to black men the most and not really with any other non-white men.

(2) non-black men are NOT sexually attracted to black women.

(3) East Asian and indian, particularly hindu and sikh females are attracted to white men.

(4) Muslim women are very much attracted to Muslim men and are by and large disgusted by non-Muslim men particularly whites, blacks and indians.

(5) Out of ALL the races on earth, Brown/Olive-skinned Muslim people are the LEAST likely to race-mix.

You forgot to mention your legendary profound disgust about Indian women ( "the ugliest in the world" ).

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

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curse on french limited vision

I think you got it wrong,I guess it ment Muslim women should have freedom to chose non Muslims

She has freedom to leave the faith

 

[CriticalThinker02]

I think you got it wrong,I guess it ment Muslim women should have freedom to chose non Muslims

How does Muslim women wearing a veil has anything to do with them having the freedom to choose non Muslims as life partners?, What of those who wants to wear the veil aren't you infringing their freedom by forcing them not to wear it?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You forgot to mention your legendary profound disgust about Indian women ( "the ugliest in the world" ).

What about your disgust with Orthodox Muslims, sir?

It is standard Muslim belief that beautiful souls exude Noor (light) which creates beautiful countenances.

 

[jamahir]

What about your disgust with Orthodox Muslims, sir?

You use the word "Orthodox" which generally means "True to form" but do you really think Lal Masjid / Jamia Hafsa / Asiya Andrabi / Taliban types are truly following the spirit of Islam ?

 

[Gangetic]

So love Jihad is in France now?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You use the word "Orthodox" which generally means "True to form" but do you really think Lal Masjid / Jamia Hafsa / Asiya Andrabi / Taliban types are truly following the spirit of Islam ?

Why are you lying and trying to change my statement?

Also Taliban are Deobandis, i.e. mainstream Sunnis.

I know your disdain for our religious practices found in the Quran, such as hijab, burqa, marriage restrictions.

You still haven't answered my question, why are Indian Muslims joining terrorist groups in Kashmir, according to you? What are they doing so far up north?

So love Jihad is in France now?

When Muslims marry Non-Muslims, that is not ok.

When Muslims marry other Muslims, that is also not ok.

According to the champions of free speech and world's biggest democracy, what is a Muslim to do? Die celibate?

 

[ummarz]

I think you got it wrong,I guess it ment Muslim women should have freedom to chose non Muslims

I don't know why its so difficult for non muslims to understand this.

They think that somehow muslim women are being kept captive against their will.

Its not like that at all, what an absurd thought!

Some women chose to follow the teachings of Islam. They believe in the prophets and the concept of God in Islam. They love Islam. Anyone who believes in that will then be considered a muslim. It's the belief first sort and title of a Muslim second approach.

No body is stoping them from marrying non muslims. They just don't want to! Because they love Islam, and they want their children to also know the beautiful message of Islam.

In the West, you don't have to be a muslim just because you were born into the religion. You can choose to live what ever kind of life you want. It’s easier to be independent here.

I know of some instances where kids who weren't taught Islam that well, went out of the fold of Islam. And began a life of pleasures and satiating their worldly desires. Some never returned, but many others did. For some teenagers it's just a temporary phase, eventually most will come back to Islam.

What do the Ignorants want?

They want the muslim women to be just like the rest. They want these "muslim" women to somehow believe in Islam but still go to bed with them, drink, eat pork and so on.

Well there are already women who might call them selves "muslim" who do all of that, fornicate, drink, eat pork. These women then obviously don't believe in the message of Islam. And at best, they are out of the fold of Islam. Perhaps one day they will come back into the fold. Inshallah.

But you can't have both. You can't change Islam, like you changed your religions to fit your desires. But what do is that you can choose to simply not believe in it if you don't want to. Be a non Muslim. Whats the problem with that?

Let people have their own beliefs and make their own choices.

Freedom of speech?

I believe in living a good, prosperous, and productive life. It's short as it is. Let's be nice and friendly to each other. Let's be intrigued by the differences, and learn from each other.

Yes you can choose to draw cartoons of the Prophets and offend muslims. Sure. I don't expect the ignorant to know.

Or

You can choose to live peacefully with each other. You can go to your bar on the weekends, eat and do what ever you like. But then when you see a muslim woman in Hijab, ask her why she wears it. And learn about it. Next time you can say hello to your muslim neighbour, and know that your muslim neighbour also has worldly desires just like you, because they are human too. But because of their faith, they control their desires. And they love it.

 

[Cherub786]

Salaam

Oh my. You do realise that people live here willingly. People who've tasted the freedoms of west, myself included, who've chosen to come back. I'm very happy with my decision, never regretted.

وسلام

From my experience most Pakistanis would flee Pakistan given the chance. During the height of Europe's refugee crisis, with refugees pouring into it from conflict ridden zones like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, there was also a considerable fraction of Pakistanis sneaking into Europe too. But unlike those other countries Pakistan isn't in the midst of a civil war. Yet such a large number of refugees desperate to cross into Europe, often at great risk to their own lives, are coming out of Pakistan. And they're not just Pathans, but people from Punjab and other areas too. When I was in Pakistan and every time some stranger found out I was a Canadian citizen the first thing he asked me was "how do I get a visa for Canada?". I swear there were people I met who were ready to give me their mom, sister or daughter in marriage to me if I asked them in return for helping them immigrate to Canada.
People really aren't happy in Pakistan. It wasn't always like this. The thing is Pakistan is getting too overpopulated and there aren't enough jobs to make a living. People are struggling just to feed themselves and their families with the bare minimum. They're struggling to pay their landlords rent for the smallest living quarters. Everyone is complaining about the utility bills. People are struggling to pay the tuition to educate their children.
On top of that it is so damn easy to register a false criminal case against anyone just by bribing a senior police officer. Loads of people are languishing in jail, the vast majority are UTPs without a shred of credible evidence against them. They can't afford lawyers so they languish in jail for years without even a trial. Then when they are released from custody, every time a crime is committed in their neighborhood they're the first ones the police pick up, take to the station, give a good beating and what not.
I've seen the condition of the weak and the dispossessed of Pakistan. Unlike other expat Pakistanis who when they go to Pakistan stay within their bubble of rich families and friends, I actually explored the country and spent time with the actual people there. I know that country like the back of my hand.
I know for a fact that the majority of gharib Pakistanis are good people but they have no future in that country. They will for generations to come live in poverty and repression. Their greatest dream is to escape and move to the West. I don't blame them

You are a Qadiyani? Your frustration is understandable.

No, I'm personally not a Qadiani, although I deeply respect the founder of the sect, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. In the words of Iqbal he was “probably the profoundest theologian among modern Indian Muslims.” (Indian Antiquary, vol. 29, September 1900, p. 239)
I come from an Ahmadi/Qadiani family but I left the movement when I was very young, just a teenager and adapted orthodox Sunni Islam. However, I am neither a Barelawi or Deobandi or Ahle Hadith. I am just a regular Sunni Muslim who follows the Hanafi school. Apart from not believing Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was a prophet, I have retained most of my beliefs and practise of Islam that I inherited from my Ahmadiyyah background. I found that to be the most logical and sensible approach to Islam.
Also, I must point out that Ahmadis/Qadianis were Pakistan's greatest asset, being highly educated, intelligent, coming from good families mostly from east Punjab during partition, and having the best akhlaq of all Pakistanis. Tragically they were declared non-Muslim by that imbecile Bhutto. Then Zia came along and started persecuting them, persecution that persists till this day. As a result, Pakistan has suffered a massive brain drain, and pretty much gone down the toilet. I mean just look at how IK's government succumbed to pressure not to give a portfolio to the financial genius Atif Miah simply because he's an Ahmadi. The man was Pakistan's best hope to create a viable economic strategy to get Pakistan back on its feet. Well fine, the only loser in that will be Pakistan itself. The Ahmadis have largely moved on to greener pastures in the West. They have excellent relations with the governments and societies they settled among, especially here in Canada.

Your experience in Canada has been great, filled with freedom and happiness. Your people thrive there.

However, is it experience of the indigenous people of Canada the same? The Gypsies in Europe or the indigenous people in any of the nonEuropean 'western' countries.

The indigenous people of Canada have indeed historically been mistreated, but that was a long time ago. They still struggle with issues like alcoholism and discrimination, but that's nothing compared to Third World problems. Our government has done a lot to redress historical grievances of that community, and they are highly favored by many government policies

 

[Trango Towers]

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Men in France are wearing a niqak....I am against this.

I think the West is full of smartly dressed idiots

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I don't know why its so difficult for non muslims to understand this.

They think that somehow muslim women are being kept captive forcefully against their will.

Its not like that at all, what an absurd thought!

Some women chose to follow the teachings of Islam, they believe in the prophets and the concept of God in Islam. They love Islam. Anyone who believes in that will then be considered a muslim. It's the belief first sort of approach.

No body is stoping them from marrying non muslims. They just don't want to! Because they love Islam, and they want their children to also know the beautiful message of Islam.

In the West, you don't have to be a muslim just because you were born into the religion. You can choose to live what ever kind of life you want to since it's much easier to be independent here.

I know of some instances where kids who weren't taught Islam that well, went out of the fold of Islam. And started to live a life of pleasures and full filled their worldly desires. Some never returned, but others did. For some teenagers it's a temporary thing, and eventually most will come back to Islam.

What do the Ignorants want?

They want the muslim women to be just like the rest. They want these "muslim" women to somehow believe in Islam but still go to bed with them, drink, eat pork and so on.

Well there are already women who might call them selves "muslim" who do all of that, fornicate, drink, eat pork. These women then obviously don't believe in the message of Islam. And at best, they are out of the fold of Islam. Perhaps one day they will come back into the fold. Inshallah.

But you can't have both. You can't change Islam, like you changed your religions to fit your desires. But you can choose to simply not believe in it if you don't want to. Whats the problem with that?

Let people have their own beliefs and make their own choices.

Freedom of speech?

I believe in living a good, prosperous, and productive life. It's short. Let's be nice and friendly to each other. Let's be intrigued by the differences, and learn about each other.

Yes you can choose to draw cartoons of the Prophets and offend muslims. Sure. You can. I don't expect the ignorant to know.

Or

You can choose to live peacefully with each other. You can go to your bar on the weekends, eat and do what ever you like. But then when you see a muslim woman in Hijab, ask her why she wears it. And learn about it, and the next time you can say hello to your muslim neighbour, knowing, that your muslim neighbour also has worldly desires just like you, they are human too. But because of their faith, they control their desires. And they love it.

Excellent post brother, I agree wholeheartedly.

We men do not have much say in women's affairs. People who are outsiders can't see that.

Women are the ones who teach Quran, educate each other about fiqh, and encourage hijab/parda among themselves.

In some places like Indonesia and Malaysia, the women don hijabs on toddlers and young children from an early age, because they think it looks cute and they want to build the habit.

 

[Rollno21]

Why Indian Hindu women don't have right to marry Muslim? Why you got big b@tt hurt and call it Love Jihad?

Who told you hindu women don't have right to marry Muslim men,every women should have the freedom to marry any one from any religion.problem starts when you become selective.

How does Muslim women wearing a veil has anything to do with them having the freedom to choose non Muslims as life partners?, What of those who wants to wear the veil aren't you infringing their freedom by forcing them not to wear it?

So you agree women should have a choice ,I am sure in that case you don't agree some Muslim countries where veil is a must for women .

 

[xyxmt]

French should start questioning their birth, would this world be a better place without them.

 

[Rollno21]

I don't know why its so difficult for non muslims to understand this.

They think that somehow muslim women are being kept captive against their will.

Its not like that at all, what an absurd thought!

Some women chose to follow the teachings of Islam. They believe in the prophets and the concept of God in Islam. They love Islam. Anyone who believes in that will then be considered a muslim. It's the belief first sort and title of a Muslim second approach.

No body is stoping them from marrying non muslims. They just don't want to! Because they love Islam, and they want their children to also know the beautiful message of Islam.

In the West, you don't have to be a muslim just because you were born into the religion. You can choose to live what ever kind of life you want. It’s easier to be independent here.

I know of some instances where kids who weren't taught Islam that well, went out of the fold of Islam. And began a life of pleasures and satiating their worldly desires. Some never returned, but many others did. For some teenagers it's just a temporary phase, eventually most will come back to Islam.

What do the Ignorants want?

They want the muslim women to be just like the rest. They want these "muslim" women to somehow believe in Islam but still go to bed with them, drink, eat pork and so on.

Well there are already women who might call them selves "muslim" who do all of that, fornicate, drink, eat pork. These women then obviously don't believe in the message of Islam. And at best, they are out of the fold of Islam. Perhaps one day they will come back into the fold. Inshallah.

But you can't have both. You can't change Islam, like you changed your religions to fit your desires. But what do is that you can choose to simply not believe in it if you don't want to. Be a non Muslim. Whats the problem with that?

Let people have their own beliefs and make their own choices.

Freedom of speech?

I believe in living a good, prosperous, and productive life. It's short as it is. Let's be nice and friendly to each other. Let's be intrigued by the differences, and learn from each other.

Yes you can choose to draw cartoons of the Prophets and offend muslims. Sure. I don't expect the ignorant to know.

Or

You can choose to live peacefully with each other. You can go to your bar on the weekends, eat and do what ever you like. But then when you see a muslim woman in Hijab, ask her why she wears it. And learn about it. Next time you can say hello to your muslim neighbour, and know that your muslim neighbour also has worldly desires just like you, because they are human too. But because of their faith, they control their desires. And they love it.

Is sounds great ,but that dsnt explain why a small kid had to do it ,do you think she understands Islam at this age and doing it on her own will.