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By Kyle Mizokami
Sep 5, 2019

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  • A European/Polish tank destroyer could very well become the deadliest weapon system on a future battlefield.
  • The tank destroyer packs up to 24 Brimstone anti-tank missiles, each of which uses radar to search for and destroy enemy armor.
  • A single vehicle could cripple enemy tank columns, rendering them incapable of attacking and stopping an invasion dead in its tracks.

A new tank destroyer concept, built for the Polish Army, could become the most effective tank killer in any army. The unnamed vehicle is armed with up to 24 Brimstone anti-tank missiles and can unleash a salvo of tank-hunting missiles, knocking out enemy tank units it can’t actually see.

Poland is a country sandwiched between military giants. In World War II, the country was invaded by both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, and was pushed into joining the Warsaw Pact for the duration of the Cold War. Today Poland forms a major part of NATO’s eastern flank and is vulnerable to Russia’s ground forces, particularly Moscow’s large fleet of main battle tanks.

Recently, Poland issued a requirement for a new tank destroyer vehicle. Tank destroyers are armored vehicles designed with firepower and mobility in mind, meant to quickly take up positions ahead of enemy tank columns and decimate them with long-range guns or missiles. Although sometimes similar to tanks in appearance, tank destroyers sacrifice armor for the ability to quickly plug holes in friendly anti-tank defenses.

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Polish Tank Destroyer concept on a BMP-1 chassis.

The new Polish tank killer is a collaboration between Polish PZG Companies and European (mostly UK) MBDA. Concept art shows the system mounted on a Cold War-era BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicle chassis with a box launcher holding 12 Brimstone missiles. The vehicle is also equipped with an American .50-caliber heavy machine gun mounted in a remote weapons turret.

Another depiction shows the system mounted on an unidentified armored vehicle chassis. This shows the system mounted in three boxes of eight missiles each, for a total of 24 Brimstone missiles.

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A Brimstone missile about to be loaded on a Tornado attack aircraft during 2015 air strikes on Islamic State forces.
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Brimstone is a medium range air-to-surface missile system developed by the U.K. The missile looks similar to the American Hellfire anti-tank missile but differs in key ways. Like Hellfire, Brimstone uses a millimetric wave radar seeker to locate and identify armor. This gives the new Polish tank destroyer the ability to engage enemy tanks at ranges of up to 12 kilometers (or about 7.45 miles).

Unlike Hellfire, Brimstone has an even more interesting indirect fire capability. Brimstone can be launched towards a defined target area and will then locate and attack any enemy tanks and armored vehicles it finds.

If Brimstone proves just 90 percent effective (MBDA itself claims 98.7 percent effectiveness in combat) a Brimstone strike could destroy 22 out of 50 tanks and armored fighting vehicles in a Russian battalion tactical group (BTG). That’s enough to render the unit combat ineffective. Two crippled BTGs will render the parent unit, a Russian tank brigade, incapable of offensive combat.



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Russian T-90 tanks on exercise at Kubinka.
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So far, no other country has a weapon such as the proposed Polish tank destroyer. The U.S. Army disbanded its tank destroyer units at the end of the Cold War, and even the AH-64 Apache attack helicopter can only carry a maximum of 16 Hellfire anti-tank missiles. Apache helicopters are also more or less limited to line of sight attacks.

The MBDA tank destroyer concept represents a powerful capability in which even a handful of armored vehicles could turn an advancing tank army into scrap in a matter of seconds.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a28928680/tank-destroyer-concept/

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By Kyle Mizokami
Sep 5, 2019

2019-09-04-mbda-showcases-tank-destroyer-vehicle-with-pgz-at-mspo-2019-c-mbda-2-1567707403.jpg

MBDA
  • A European/Polish tank destroyer could very well become the deadliest weapon system on a future battlefield.
  • The tank destroyer packs up to 24 Brimstone anti-tank missiles, each of which uses radar to search for and destroy enemy armor.
  • A single vehicle could cripple enemy tank columns, rendering them incapable of attacking and stopping an invasion dead in its tracks.

A new tank destroyer concept, built for the Polish Army, could become the most effective tank killer in any army. The unnamed vehicle is armed with up to 24 Brimstone anti-tank missiles and can unleash a salvo of tank-hunting missiles, knocking out enemy tank units it can’t actually see.

Poland is a country sandwiched between military giants. In World War II, the country was invaded by both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, and was pushed into joining the Warsaw Pact for the duration of the Cold War. Today Poland forms a major part of NATO’s eastern flank and is vulnerable to Russia’s ground forces, particularly Moscow’s large fleet of main battle tanks.

Recently, Poland issued a requirement for a new tank destroyer vehicle. Tank destroyers are armored vehicles designed with firepower and mobility in mind, meant to quickly take up positions ahead of enemy tank columns and decimate them with long-range guns or missiles. Although sometimes similar to tanks in appearance, tank destroyers sacrifice armor for the ability to quickly plug holes in friendly anti-tank defenses.

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2019-09-04-mbda-showcases-tank-destroyer-vehicle-with-pgz-at-mspo-2019-c-mbda-1567707443.jpg

Polish Tank Destroyer concept on a BMP-1 chassis.

The new Polish tank killer is a collaboration between Polish PZG Companies and European (mostly UK) MBDA. Concept art shows the system mounted on a Cold War-era BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicle chassis with a box launcher holding 12 Brimstone missiles. The vehicle is also equipped with an American .50-caliber heavy machine gun mounted in a remote weapons turret.

Another depiction shows the system mounted on an unidentified armored vehicle chassis. This shows the system mounted in three boxes of eight missiles each, for a total of 24 Brimstone missiles.

picture-shows-a-brimstone-missile-a-rocket-propelled-radar-news-photo-499714488-1567707867.jpg

A Brimstone missile about to be loaded on a Tornado attack aircraft during 2015 air strikes on Islamic State forces.
PHILIP COBURNGETTY IMAGES
Brimstone is a medium range air-to-surface missile system developed by the U.K. The missile looks similar to the American Hellfire anti-tank missile but differs in key ways. Like Hellfire, Brimstone uses a millimetric wave radar seeker to locate and identify armor. This gives the new Polish tank destroyer the ability to engage enemy tanks at ranges of up to 12 kilometers (or about 7.45 miles).

Unlike Hellfire, Brimstone has an even more interesting indirect fire capability. Brimstone can be launched towards a defined target area and will then locate and attack any enemy tanks and armored vehicles it finds.

If Brimstone proves just 90 percent effective (MBDA itself claims 98.7 percent effectiveness in combat) a Brimstone strike could destroy 22 out of 50 tanks and armored fighting vehicles in a Russian battalion tactical group (BTG). That’s enough to render the unit combat ineffective. Two crippled BTGs will render the parent unit, a Russian tank brigade, incapable of offensive combat.



russian-t-90-tanks-take-position-before-firing-in-kubinka-news-photo-837189058-1567707712.jpg

Russian T-90 tanks on exercise at Kubinka.
AFP CONTRIBUTORGETTY IMAGES


So far, no other country has a weapon such as the proposed Polish tank destroyer. The U.S. Army disbanded its tank destroyer units at the end of the Cold War, and even the AH-64 Apache attack helicopter can only carry a maximum of 16 Hellfire anti-tank missiles. Apache helicopters are also more or less limited to line of sight attacks.

The MBDA tank destroyer concept represents a powerful capability in which even a handful of armored vehicles could turn an advancing tank army into scrap in a matter of seconds.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a28928680/tank-destroyer-concept/

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Brimstone is an awesome weapon.

Always wished for brimstone or a clone to be inducted in PA.

A few vehicles can make the whole IA regiment sized attack ineffective.

It is also cheaper to have more of these instead of gunships (In a QRF defensive role). More gunships can be then employed with strike corps combined arms formation.
 
i think we should modify AlKhalid tank to launch Nasar missiles instead of importing from other countries
 
Excellent concept. However according to wikipedia a single Brimestone missile is £100000-£175,000 pounds making it a really expensive proposition.
I wonder how a guided MRLS can be modded for similar role.
 
This is EXCELLENT stuff.

Reminds me of the dreaded hailfire droids in Star Wars.

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Excellent concept. However according to wikipedia a single Brimestone missile is £100000-£175,000 pounds making it a really expensive proposition.
I wonder how a guided MRLS can be modded for similar role.
MRLS not able to target moving objects as good as ATGM even with inertial guidance.
 
Seems like a very costly and dangerous venture a single hit will destroy 24 costly
brimstone missiles along with crew and vehicle obviously.

I also wonder if there is Active Protection System to protect itself.

And I also wonder what is the efficacy of Brimstone missiles against a tank protected by Active Protection System.
 
Can be vice versa, a single machine is able to destroy 24 costly tanks.
But if one $1000 drone in conjunction with a smart shell fired from say 50 km destroys It before it can even move much less fire (because its one of the prime targets by dint of its being so dangerous) a single missile then what ?

I also wonder if there is Active Protection System to protect itself.

And I also wonder what is the efficacy of Brimstone missiles against a tank protected by Active Protection System.
Good question
 
I also wonder if there is Active Protection System to protect itself.

And I also wonder what is the efficacy of Brimstone missiles against a tank protected by Active Protection System.

if Brimstone has no Jammer it is completely useless against Trophy Afganit or ADS...even with a jammer systems like ADS use several different detection sources which makes it even worse to get jammed they are able to detect and intercept mutliple attacks from different directions... so a tankbattalion fitted with state of the art hard kill system has nothing to worry...

24 x 100.000 = 2.4million if fired against tankbattalion with hard kill systems you just burn money

with more and more effective hard kill systems added the AGTM RPG area comes to a end
 
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