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The US is making a mockery of democracy, and China must be loving it

Robert Boxwell says leaders in Beijing are likely to be delighted at the good job being done by the American people and media to discredit the democratic process during the presidential election campaign

PUBLISHED : Saturday, 22 October, 2016, 10:03am
UPDATED : Saturday, 22 October, 2016, 10:03am

Some folks say the Democrats are going to be the winners in next month’s US election, some say the Republicans. From my view in Asia, where I’ve lived and worked for over 20 years, I say the Communists in Beijing will be the biggest winners. They must be revelling in the fun right now, witnessing just how depraved freedom and democracy have become.

I’m not going to waste my vote on either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, who are in a battle to finish second-to-last in two centuries of presidential candidates. I’m going to waste it on Xi Jinping (習近平) for US president. I realise Xi has a job already, but if he gets enough votes to win, “birther” issues aside, I’m betting his colleagues would give him a leave of absence to spend time in the White House, just as a gesture of goodwill to the American people. Because while Americans have done so much for Beijing over the past few decades, we’ve never done as much for them as with the 2016 election. In short, the US has done a better job of making a mockery of democracy than Beijing ever could.

One of the mantras of the Beijing propaganda machines is that American democracy is a fatuous popularity contest between unqualified candidates who run for office to do the bidding for their corrupt and venal capitalist backers, while China’s leaders are proven, competent meritocrats who are there solely to serve the people. Americans have now handed them Exhibits A and B and said, “See? This is what we’re talking about.” Last weekend, the one whose judgment doesn’t prevent him from engaging in locker-room talk with TV cameras rolling called on the one whose judgment doesn’t prevent her from emailing national security communiqués around the world using a “home-brew” email server to take a drug test before Wednesday’s debate. The locker-room one also told the world he thinks American democratic elections are rigged. It’s not just the candidates though. Supporting America’s self-destruction of democracy, not a few respected news sources are perceived by the public to have become openly biased, news morphing into opinion, and vice versa.

This is worse for American democracy than having two bad candidates; they’ll be gone eventually but the institution of a fair and free press was supposed to still be around. This is a horrible turn, the press giving away something money can’t buy: the perception of fairness. Why any journalist would feel the need to embellish a word Trump utters is hard to understand. His words need no interpretation, yet explaining to an American public why what Trump said is so bad in the worst possible terms seems to be part of the press’ job, as does sugar-coating Clinton’s flaws and the scandal that surrounds her. And it’s not just perception in Clinton’s case. WikiLeaks has released emails to and from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta that appear to show close collaboration between Clinton’s team and members of the elite press. Beijing has to love the double bonus of the US press trashing itself as it trashes the candidates.

But it’s after the election when America’s real problems begin in Asia, because both candidates have stated they won’t ratify theTrans-Pacific Partnership(TPP), the trade pact the Obama administration spent years negotiating with 11 friends and allies around the Pacific, excluding China. An American failure to ratify it would, at a minimum, embarrass the leaders of the other TPP countries domestically and is likely to pave the way for Beijing to do more business with them, not less. Trump sounds like he might go as far as pulling out of Asia entirely, making noises about abandoning military alliances with Japan and South Korea.

Beijing has been making steady inroads on trade and regional politics for years, showing up with cash with no strings attached. They’re making friends with governments in Cambodia, Laos and, now, the Philippines. Meanwhile, America’s choices in November are down to a political neophyte, who sounds like he’d walk away from the region, and his opponent, who coined the term “pivot” to Asia when she was secretary of state, which now looks like American blather given what’s actually happening on the ground and in the sea here.

Americans have seldom seemed to care much about how we look to the rest of the world, assuming, I suppose, that our good deeds last century were worth a lifetime of goodwill. Many Americans who live and work abroad know that is a mistake. America is not just losing the propaganda war to Beijing, it’s surrendering. For Americans who have been high on the notion of US exceptionalism, it’s time to sober up.

When I started working in the region in the 1990s, China’s economy was relatively small and in need of much work. Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, and the Southeast Asian countries were growing fast and people I interacted with had a generally favourable impression of America, even if they didn’t fully understand US politics and the press. When queried or challenged about apparent flaws in these, for example, during the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky scandal, I used to be able to kick into a civic pride mode and explain how democracy was self-correcting, a free press was part of that, and things always came right eventually. Now, when friends ask me what’s happening at home, I tell them that I just don’t know. All I know is that we look ridiculous, and America’s rivals in Beijing hope we keep it up.

Robert Boxwell is director of the consultancy Opera Advisors

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Excuse me, but so long as established proces is followed, how is a mockery made of democracy? You find poor candidates in any country... e.g. Phillippenes, to name just one. Also, why would an UNDEMOCRATIC nation such as China, represented here by the South China Morning Post, be at all concerned with whether or not a mockery is made of democracy in the US? Hello China, where's your presidential/congressional elections? - Such BS.
 
Calm down fellows. If I'm not mistaken, the author of this article is not a Chinese:azn:

We simply don't give a hoot to such an idiotic process anymore. Carry on. Go "elect" whoever. We will just keep minding our own business. And don't lecture us about your freedom. Wake me up when you don't have to work to put food on the table, or pay to have electricity in your house. And you Indians, you better shut that pie hole of yours. Just what have you accomplished in 60+ years with your god sent democrazy? You make me puke:hitwall:
 
Historically, India has been a negative incentive regarding democracy in Indian fashion.

The US has certainly become the contemporary negative incentive regarding democracy in US fashion.

Both of them are practically useful negative historical cases of inefficient, corrupt and rigid domestic regimes.

There is no reason for not to learn from negative examples not to repeat similar mistakes. History is a laboratory for those who can experiment on controlled and uncontrolled variables.

The good news for their opponents is that these anti-historical polities are unable to progress and evolve.

Nobody in their sane mind will wish to repeat their experience unless forced at gun's point.
 
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Excuse me, but so long as established proces is followed, how is a mockery made of democracy? You find poor candidates in any country... e.g. Phillippenes, to name just one. Also, why would an UNDEMOCRATIC nation such as China, represented here by the South China Morning Post, be at all concerned with whether or not a mockery is made of democracy in the US? Hello China, where's your presidential/congressional elections? - Such BS.
Gosh. The mockery is happening right in front of you !

Of 300million, a clown and a liar is the best choice for sheep on the street to select to run a country.
 
Is that the best you can do? How disappointing. Have a nice day.
Elections by ordinary people on street does not select the best candidate to run a country. Selection by your peers does.

Americans smartest and brightest are all found in the Corporations. They are not elected.

That is why in United States, the Corporations controls the government and the country.

In China the smartest and brightest are found in the government and that is why they control the Corporations and the country.

Further more. United States is administered based on the ideology of the either of the two parties. You always fall back on your party lines no matter what. So you are stuck with either one of the two party ideology unable or unwilling to change.

In China today the ideology is based on the cat that catches the mice is the good cat. It does not matter if it is black or white.
This allows China to experiment and constantly reforming.

Like crossing the river slowly by feeling your way across with your feet changing direction to find the safest path.

In this universe there is only one constant and that is change - I-ching, the book of change. The oldest book in the world.
 
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Elections by ordinary people on street does not select the best candidate to run a country. Selection by your peers does.

Americans smartest and brightest are all found in the Corporations. They are not elected.

That is why in United States, the Corporations controls the government and the country.

In China the smartest and brightest are found in the government and that is why they control the Corporations and the country.

Further more. United States is administered based on the ideology of the either of the two parties. You always fall back on your party lines no matter what. So you are stuck with either one of the two party ideology unable or unwilling to change.

In China today the ideology is based on the cat that catches the mice is the good cat. It does not matter if it is black or white.
This allows China to experiment and constantly reforming.

Like crossing the river slowly by feeling your way across with your feet changing direction to find the safest path.

In this universe there is only one constant and that is change - I-ching, the book of change. The oldest book in the world.
Poor excuses. And not true. See e.g. https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2013-10-20/when-the-best-and-brightest-leave-india-and-china

Sweet dreams
 
http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight...mockery-democracy-and-china-must-be-loving-it
The US is making a mockery of democracy, and China must be loving it

Robert Boxwell says leaders in Beijing are likely to be delighted at the good job being done by the American people and media to discredit the democratic process during the presidential election campaign

PUBLISHED : Saturday, 22 October, 2016, 10:03am
UPDATED : Saturday, 22 October, 2016, 10:03am

Some folks say the Democrats are going to be the winners in next month’s US election, some say the Republicans. From my view in Asia, where I’ve lived and worked for over 20 years, I say the Communists in Beijing will be the biggest winners. They must be revelling in the fun right now, witnessing just how depraved freedom and democracy have become.

I’m not going to waste my vote on either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, who are in a battle to finish second-to-last in two centuries of presidential candidates. I’m going to waste it on Xi Jinping (習近平) for US president. I realise Xi has a job already, but if he gets enough votes to win, “birther” issues aside, I’m betting his colleagues would give him a leave of absence to spend time in the White House, just as a gesture of goodwill to the American people. Because while Americans have done so much for Beijing over the past few decades, we’ve never done as much for them as with the 2016 election. In short, the US has done a better job of making a mockery of democracy than Beijing ever could.

One of the mantras of the Beijing propaganda machines is that American democracy is a fatuous popularity contest between unqualified candidates who run for office to do the bidding for their corrupt and venal capitalist backers, while China’s leaders are proven, competent meritocrats who are there solely to serve the people. Americans have now handed them Exhibits A and B and said, “See? This is what we’re talking about.” Last weekend, the one whose judgment doesn’t prevent him from engaging in locker-room talk with TV cameras rolling called on the one whose judgment doesn’t prevent her from emailing national security communiqués around the world using a “home-brew” email server to take a drug test before Wednesday’s debate. The locker-room one also told the world he thinks American democratic elections are rigged. It’s not just the candidates though. Supporting America’s self-destruction of democracy, not a few respected news sources are perceived by the public to have become openly biased, news morphing into opinion, and vice versa.

This is worse for American democracy than having two bad candidates; they’ll be gone eventually but the institution of a fair and free press was supposed to still be around. This is a horrible turn, the press giving away something money can’t buy: the perception of fairness. Why any journalist would feel the need to embellish a word Trump utters is hard to understand. His words need no interpretation, yet explaining to an American public why what Trump said is so bad in the worst possible terms seems to be part of the press’ job, as does sugar-coating Clinton’s flaws and the scandal that surrounds her. And it’s not just perception in Clinton’s case. WikiLeaks has released emails to and from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta that appear to show close collaboration between Clinton’s team and members of the elite press. Beijing has to love the double bonus of the US press trashing itself as it trashes the candidates.

But it’s after the election when America’s real problems begin in Asia, because both candidates have stated they won’t ratify theTrans-Pacific Partnership(TPP), the trade pact the Obama administration spent years negotiating with 11 friends and allies around the Pacific, excluding China. An American failure to ratify it would, at a minimum, embarrass the leaders of the other TPP countries domestically and is likely to pave the way for Beijing to do more business with them, not less. Trump sounds like he might go as far as pulling out of Asia entirely, making noises about abandoning military alliances with Japan and South Korea.

Beijing has been making steady inroads on trade and regional politics for years, showing up with cash with no strings attached. They’re making friends with governments in Cambodia, Laos and, now, the Philippines. Meanwhile, America’s choices in November are down to a political neophyte, who sounds like he’d walk away from the region, and his opponent, who coined the term “pivot” to Asia when she was secretary of state, which now looks like American blather given what’s actually happening on the ground and in the sea here.

Americans have seldom seemed to care much about how we look to the rest of the world, assuming, I suppose, that our good deeds last century were worth a lifetime of goodwill. Many Americans who live and work abroad know that is a mistake. America is not just losing the propaganda war to Beijing, it’s surrendering. For Americans who have been high on the notion of US exceptionalism, it’s time to sober up.

When I started working in the region in the 1990s, China’s economy was relatively small and in need of much work. Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea, and the Southeast Asian countries were growing fast and people I interacted with had a generally favourable impression of America, even if they didn’t fully understand US politics and the press. When queried or challenged about apparent flaws in these, for example, during the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky scandal, I used to be able to kick into a civic pride mode and explain how democracy was self-correcting, a free press was part of that, and things always came right eventually. Now, when friends ask me what’s happening at home, I tell them that I just don’t know. All I know is that we look ridiculous, and America’s rivals in Beijing hope we keep it up.

Robert Boxwell is director of the consultancy Opera Advisors

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The Chinese model has not worked in other countries. North Korea is a good example.
 
Ha ha ha. It's not the best and brightest that are leaving China. It's the people that can afford it. The competition in China is too much for them.
Read the article.
Nothing in the article says that ... At least not for China. He he he.

The Chinese model has not worked in other countries. North Korea is a good example.
Well off my mind I can name you a lot of Electorial democracy countries that have fail.

They are all in front of you everyday in the media and on TV. If only you can see.
 
Ha ha ha. It's not the best and brightest that are leaving China. It's the people that can afford it. The competition in China is too much for them.
Read the article.
Nothing in the article says that ... At least not for China. He he he.


Well off my mind I can name you a lot of Electorial democracy countries that have fail.

They are all in front of you everyday in the media and on TV. If only you can see.
But non is like NK, which cant even food , and cant even sleep with his own Will...... look at china, they cant watch FB...lol
 
But non is like NK, which cant even food , and cant even sleep with his own Will...... look at china, they cant watch FB...lol


North Korea may not be as bad as western media want you to believe. At least they have H-bomb and they live longer than your countrymen. As for FB, it is not really an indication of how developed a country is.
 
But non is like NK, which cant even food , and cant even sleep with his own Will...... look at china, they cant watch FB...lol

China has its own billion dollar social media multinational corporations experimenting on artificial intelligence, virtual reality and smart driving, competing the best in the field.

Glad that US social media were kept out of China market (because they happened not to be willing to conform to the law of the land).

Our money, our innovation, our employment. Now we intend to beat their companies on their home turf. Is that so bad? Maybe for an Indian.

Wish you will keep your FB until hell freezes over. That's good news for us.
 
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I do not want to repeat again, but compared to India, NK is still a paradise. If i have to choose between NK and India to raise my children, surely i would choose NK and possibly, all healthy people in East Asia, who are not brainwashed by West media, would do the same.

North Korea is a higly industralized country with hard working and disciplines, high IQ workforce. It is clean, orderly and organized., must better than any third world country.
 
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