The U.S. Navy Isn’t Ready to Take On Iran

[SubWater]

I don't think he's wrong. You say that, but do you realise US navy and army isn't the same as in the 80s. In fact the US military has grown even stronger not weaker. I don't know how some people think the US just remains stagnant while every other countries advances lol. If anything US NAVY and military advances even faster than almost every power.

Nobody denied US power here, but you should consider they are thousand kilometer away from Persian gulf.
Also, they dont have reason to fight with Iran.
Fight for what ??? to achieve what ???

 

[Surenas]

Weak and bruised? Iraq was really lacking in the naval front and could not challenge Iran in waters. IRIN dominated in this front, in regional capacity to say the least.

Iran invited American response due to Tanker War with Iraq.

Secondly, you think that current USN is same as in the 1980s? Entire world understand that USN have no peer in technology and combat prowess, but Iranians.

Praying Mantis is exactly the reason why Iran moved away from its conventional doctrine. Also, all sophisticated assets in hands of Iran today were absent in that era.

Using that historical analogy is sheer ignorance.

There is a reason why the US has stationed its carrier in the northern part of the Arabian Sea in stead of the Persian Gulf.

 

[SubWater]

One of asymmetrical Iran hands
cheap and small but very effective

 

[azbaroj]

Praying Mantis is exactly the reason why Iran moved away from its conventional doctrine. Also, all sophisticated assets in hands of Iran today were absent in that era.

Using that historical analogy is sheer ignorance.

There is a reason why the US has stationed its carrier in the northern part of the Arabian Sea in stead of the Persian Gulf.

Recently Americans emptied Al Udied base in Qatar . What is the real reason they emptied the base

 

[Surenas]

Recently Americans emptied Al Udied base in Qatar . What is the real reason they emptied the base

The same reason why they park their AC outside the Persian Gulf: Iranian missiles.

 

[skyshadow]

WTF? People don't understand the purpose of Navy ships. Was there ever an aircraft carrier off the coast of Japan or Germany during WW2? (the closest was 650 miles out during the Doolittle raid). Ever hear Hitler or Hirohito making a speech about attacking a carrier off the coast of Germany or Japan??? LOL! Carrier deep in the Gulf during the Iraq War??

no, but they need to be near the country of interest but they are not, they have to go back 1000-2000 km from Iran so they ability will fall to less then 20% and that's just not enough to take on a country as big as Iran

Real secret weapons?

no not secret our ballistic missiles can do that for more then a decade now

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

no, but they need to be near the country of interest but not they have to go back 1000-2000 km from Iran so they ability will fall to less then 20% and that's just not enough to take on a country as big as Iran




no not secret our ballistic missiles can do that for more then a decade now

Why do we need our Navy to take on Iran? Navy planes are nowhere as good as our Air Force planes. F-15s and F-16s don’t use carriers.

In the wars in Iraq it was almost all Air Force planes.

Navy surface ships (and submarines) can launch cruise missiles (which is very convenient) but that is not our only option. We have a nice big base at Diego Garcia with aerial refueling planes and heavy bombers that can carry them just as well.

 

[Serpentine]

Weak and bruised? Iraq was really lacking in the naval front and could not challenge Iran in waters. IRIN dominated in this front, in regional capacity to say the least.

Iran invited American response due to Tanker War with Iraq.

Secondly, you think that current USN is same as in the 1980s? Entire world understand that USN have no peer in technology and combat prowess, but Iranians.

You don't get the point. No one claims we can 'defeat' U.S navy or army. The whole point of this is making a possible war for U.S so costly so that a basic deterrence is achieved. Iran has almost reached that deterrence. No, we can't defeat U.S navy, but we can make a war for the U.S. so costly that they don't even start it as easily as they did for Iraq in 2003.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

One of asymmetrical Iran hands
cheap and small but very effective

What US military assets are you planning to attack with them?? You going to fly >2000km out to hit something?

 

[skyshadow]

Lol I don't know who writes such articles. When even China and Russia(who are far ahead of Iran in almost every field) admit their navy still isn't a match for the US, and here we have someone claiming US navy is scared of Iran. Reminds me of Saddam's hyping, saying how he was going to crush the US if they ever invaded. We all know how that ended.

its not about navy its about a strategy which neither Russia nor China is using we fight with small boats with 300 km anti ship missiles on them hundreds of them if not thousands at the same time baked with armed drones and suicide drones and suicide boats packed with expensive backed by F-4s with 330 km anti ship missile on them backed by ballistic missiles and those are what we know they are many missiles that are secret and that is a new strategy which US is not prepared for which could end in defeat of the attack.

Why do we need our Navy to take on Iran? Navy planes are nowhere as good as our Air Force planes. F-15s and F-16s don’t use carriers.

In the wars in Iraq it was almost all Air Force planes.

Navy surface ships (and submarines) can launch cruise missiles (which is very convenient) but that is not our only option. We have a nice big base at Diego Garcia with aerial refueling planes and heavy bombers that can carry them just as well.

well that is full blown war we talking a strike here one from sea that can respond to Iran quickly which does not exist any more using cruise missiles is not a strange thing to do but here the enemy has that cruise missiles too its in air which the enemy ( Iran ) is weaker.

 

[SubWater]

What US military assets are you planning to attack with them?? You going to fly >2000km out to hit something?

they are for pushing US ships and other assets to that distance.
If US leave to that distance, we already reach to the goal without firing bullet.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

they are for pushing US ships and other assets to that distance.
If US leave to that distance, we already reach to the goal without firing bullet.

You reached a goal Germany, Japan, and Iraq had already achieved? Just having planes like F14s in the 1970s achieved that.

 

[Mithridates]

Real secret weapons?

well it's function is almost the same as persian gulf missile with extended range, but unlike the PG missile it is not tested yet.

Operation Praying Mantis

in that era iran did not escalate things, they would simply fly a squadron of f-14s and the outcome would be different.

Lol I don't know who writes such articles. When even China and Russia(who are far ahead of Iran in almost every field) admit their navy still isn't a match for the US, and here we have someone claiming US navy is scared of Iran. Reminds me of Saddam's hyping, saying how he was going to crush the US if they ever invaded. We all know how that ended.

it's not about the USN vs IRIN, there is a fact that carriers preparing to conduct an air raid should stop moving and that makes them vulnerable to anti ship ballistic missiles.

 

[yavar]

The Akhoonds need to develop ICBM's with nukes, we should not have the white man roaming around the holy Middle East dictating these lands

my brother you don't need to worry about that.
i can a show you Islamic Republic is number one nuclear power in region and subcontinent, when it comes toquantity and size only Israel are the ones who have got 4th generation nuclear weapon deployed in region,

look at what the IRGC Chief Major Gen. Hossein Salami said yesterday quote " we Have Prepared 'The Capability To Annihilate' Israel " end quote
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2019/09/30/2108179/irgc-chief-elimination-of-israel-not-a-dream
there is only two ways to this, whether Gen. Salami is stupid and NOT aware of Israel subsurface strike nuclear force
or He is well prepared to deal with that scenario.

one more thing for Brothers in Iraq,
remember one thing IRI nuclear power belongs to you as well and is not Only for Iran,
we would NOT be hold any weapons when it comes to Iraq,
let say if Ayatullah Sistani request for it, Have no doubts we will transfer any nuclear equipment that he requested without asking any question