The Saudi regime does not represent Islam

[A.P. Richelieu]

Arab spring surely happened... but what was the aftermath?

The only country that became somewhat stable is tunisia? a berber country... what happened in Bahrain,Iraq,Syria,Egypt?

It failed obviously.
Your point is?

and Saudi regime + SISI + Uae gives Jerusalem to Israel



only christian copts in Egypt and tratior puppets to the US and Israel

Which includes the majority of Egyptians since You define anyone against incompetence
as a puppet of US and Israel.

 

[T-Rex]

Your thread is about how Saudis don't represent Islam, but does Erdogan?

If you want to take the religious standpoint (which is ridiculous) KSA is more Islamic than Turkey in almost every respect. Name one non sharia thing KSA allows that Turkey doesn't? You can name 100 things the other way.

I am a fan of Turkey, not because it is the fortress of Islam but because it is a modern, civilised, cultured place. I don't know why are you conflating this with representation of Islam here?

Does Turkey claim that it is Islamic? KSA does and what is so Islamic about having the king and the crown prince above the law? If you want to know what an Islamic state should look like you should look at how hazrat Abu Bakre and Omar ruled as Caliph. Always saying Allahu akbar and then cutting to pieces dissidents is not Islam.

You were comparing Qatari monarchs with the Saudi monarchs as if they were any better. They are NOT. Monarchy is the reason why the Muslims have been destroyed and completely overtaken by the Europeans.

Yes Qatar is way better than KSA. First of all Qatar does not claim to be the champion of Islam and then violate every tenet of Islam. Qatar does not support anti-democratic forces in other Muslim states just because it is a monarchy like KSA does. Qatar's emir does not allow critics to be chopped into pieces in its consulates. Do you need more points?

It does not matter who supports who, the ulterior motive must be determined.

You are wrong again because who supports whom depends on motive and therefore it matters.

 

[nahtanbob]

please don't take this kind of people seriously they can talk as much as the boss united states allows. Almost all messages are anti-Turkish. It seems that the Turks have slapped a huge slap.

turkey is economically bankrupt. they are pretenders

 

[T-Rex]

turkey is economically bankrupt. they are pretenders

Does Turkey have a trillion dollar debt like the US has?

 

[Test7]

turkey is economically bankrupt. they are pretenders

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It failed obviously.
Your point is?



Which includes the majority of Egyptians since You define anyone against incompetence
as a puppet of US and Israel.

You should avoid quoting people if you lack comprehension skills?

 

[pak-marine]

Singing the Daesh song won't sell you as good person. Jamal Khashoggi has exposed the fact that your godfathers are the actual patrons of Daesh and Al Qaeda and that makes you another off shoot of those terror entities.

such hypocrisy till 2014 -15 when islamic state was gaining territory or before when AQ was killing americans and made so called gains in iraq you were signing their songs now when they are kicked out you are siding with turkey and qatar .. is there even a standard or stance this muslim brotherhood or HT guys have !? i think not ! they are simply khuwarjis of the highest level and deceivingly hail the stronger side just so they can make some gains ... sorry the reality is your mind set and kind is exposed badly and these groups are nothing more than an asswipe , feel sorry for the poor kids who fell into your stupid trap

 

[HAIDER]

Saudi Arabia doesn't represent Islam, but they are holding Holy Cities , so they need to act and behave an excellent symbol of Islamic tolerance for others.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

You should avoid quoting people if you lack comprehension skills?

You should avoid making irrelevant statements like the one above.
Tunisia was a success for the Arab Spring.
The others were failures for various reasons.
In the case of Egypt, because they elected an imbecile.
If he had been a half decent politician, the Arab Spring in Egypt could have been a success.

 

[Timur]

He should have called for new elections to either confirm his popular support, or if lacking resign.
Happens all the time in many democracies.
Autocratic people like Hitler gets elected once, and then believe that makes them Führer for ever.

Yes he could but he did not have to.. He has the right to wait for next elections if he is able to rule.. And form a government. .

The problem is that forces from outside wanted to end him even if one million people on the streets would be protesting this is nothing compared to the ones electing him..

We had that in Turkey too and what happened that organized troops lead by outside and inside organisation's showed just that some people are just well organized and have good leadership. .

Mursi just pushed too much without having real power and without eliminating the elite

 

[Mentee]

KSA never represented Islam and that is a fact. Now does that mean Islam is in danger? You made that up and it is you who dragged in this alliance bullshit into this discussion in order to cover up the heinous crime committed by MBS.

As I told you earlier, stay away from the matters which doesn't concern you or your bangla origins. For us Saudi is a strategic ally whether it represents Islam or not just like China and Turkey.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Yes he could but he did not have to.. He has the right to wait for next elections if he is able to rule.. And form a government. .

The problem is that forces from outside wanted to end him even if one million people on the streets would be protesting this is nothing compared to the ones electing him..

We had that in Turkey too and what happened that organized troops lead by outside and inside organisation's showed just that some people are just well organized and have good leadership. .

Mursi just pushed too much without having real power and without eliminating the elite

Mursi was overthrown by Egyptians, because he thought that once elected he has absolute power, and could do whatever he wanted without listening.
A true democrat is consistently reviewing their popularity and resign once it becomes obvious that the public is fed up and wants a change. It does not matter that they are elected for a certain time.
It is of course better if the constitution allows for removing an elected official than a coup.

 

[EasyNow]

Turkey is under attack by the US,Israel,Germany and their terrorists PKK,ISIS,FETO since 2010
because of ERDOGAN support Palestine against Israel .... Palestians are Arab , not TURK and Palestine is so poor ,, Palestine can give nothing to Turkey but still Turkey protect Jerusalem ( Islam's third holiest site )

on the other hand KSA,Egypt led by SISI and UAE gives Jerusalem to Israel

stupid muslim ... do you know what about Jerusalem ( Islam's third holiest site ) ?
even are you muslim ?

Lol u call me wahabi scum and then ask am I even Muslim? Which is it, am i too religious or too western??

You are a typical Erdo sheep who jumps to insults with half baked knowledge. Guess how much trade increased with Israel under Erdo??

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/or...iatribe-biting-business-at-the-same-time.html

I don't care if Erdo works with Israel or with KSA, point is they do what's best for their counties - what are you jumping around for?

 

[nahtanbob]

Does Turkey have a trillion dollar debt like the US has?

USA can print dollars. Can the Turks print their currency ?

Does Turkey claim that it is Islamic? KSA does and what is so Islamic about having the king and the crown prince above the law? If you want to know what an Islamic state should look like you should look at how hazrat Abu Bakre and Omar ruled as Caliph. Always saying Allahu akbar and then cutting to pieces dissidents is not Islam.

Ottomans claim to be Islamic. Nothing Islamic about them
they are more responsible for the weakness of muslim countries than anyone else

 

[MMM-E]

Lol u call me wahabi scum and then ask am I even Muslim? Which is it, am i too religious or too western??

You are a typical Erdo sheep who jumps to insults with half baked knowledge. Guess how much trade increased with Israel under Erdo??

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/or...iatribe-biting-business-at-the-same-time.html

I don't care if Erdo works with Israel or with KSA, point is they do what's best for their counties - what are you jumping around for?

You are typical anglo-saxon butt licker pathetic slave as like SISI , Saudi regime and Uae
I am saying again do you know what about Jerusalem ( Islam's third holiest site ) ?
and KSA,Egypt led by SISI and UAE gives Jerusalem to Israel
also Wahabi Salafi S.Arabia created so-called Islamic terrorist groubs Al qaida,ISIS ,etc with the US and the UK .... and almost whole world call muslims as a terrorist ( because of traitor S.Arabia and Uae )

trade with Israel is thing
giving Jerusalem ( Islam's third holiest site ) to Israel and creating radical terrorist groubs is another thing

even prophet MUHAMMAD did business with the jews ........ you ignorant sheep