The REAL Reason Why Pakistan Does not have an Aircraft Carrier

[Hassan Guy]

Carriers are used for projection of Power around the world.
PN has no ambitions to do so, hence no such plans.

As mentioned, 8 submarines where much prefered

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

As mentioned, 8 submarines where much prefered

I know.

 

[abrar khan]

Start to have the force built from ground to highest like we are having a good number of FAC boats like Azmat as 3rd has been launched out of 4 plnned, a bigger naval tanker recently launched, having 8 new AIP subs with the help of China and currently started to upgrade the 90-B with the help of Turkey and we are in talks or we can say there is interest for Milgem-G type bigger Turkish ships (Corvettes and Frigates).

That these all are must at least to provide a strong foundation then it comes to the AirCraft Carrier which is currently a rich guys toy, a power projector and for long shots.

Our adversary is next door to us and is not far as well as by having these advanced Subs and ships, it is going to be a force to reckon with and after all, plans are made which suits the doctrine.

We need to build-up and raise a strong Navy but from lo to high and ACC is the last shot so there is no urgency to have it but need to focus on latest ships and weaponry. ACC itself becomes a liability during war that need a separate protection fleet consists attack ships and Subs.

I believe our navy is now on right track and sure in next few years we will hear some good news.

 

[VCheng]

The only other country is France, they use the catapult system too.

The French use US-supplied catapults.

 

[spectribution]

Real Reason : No $$$$ No romance.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Let's also be honest here... Pakistan doesn't have infrastructure/technology/manpower/funds/operational experience of owning/maintaining/developing one. Pakistan here is like the soviets... get teeths under the water to punch holes on objects above.

 

[Bennedict]

Before Pakistan acquire an aircraft carrier, Pakistan should note some of this:

- Cost

Príncipe de Asturias of Spanish Navy, she were offered to sale simply because Spain can't afford its operating cost.
1.2 trillion dollar economy can't even cope with high operating cost.

(Light AC/LHD such as Spanish Príncipe de Asturias cost (est) +600 million USD for its hull only, not to mention maintenance, crew training, additional support systems (weapons, sensors)and especially, aircraft to fill its flat deck. With 600 million dollars, better buy additional fighter aircraft for your airforce.

You dont want end like Thai Navy Chakri Naruebet right? no money to equip weapons and aircraft to her deck, now only used as oversized, fancy royal yacht.


-Assets
A nation who operates an AC (USA, Russia, China, India, Britain, etc), have many advanced surface combatants (Destroyers, Heavy frigates, submarines,) to guard its vital, multi-billion AC. With current asset Pakistan have now, would be more logical and cost effective to acquire vls-equipped, sophisticated heavy frigate with advanced 3D radar and medium range AA missile, such as Type 054A.

Indian Carrier Strike Group

PLAN carrier strike group

Future British Navy carrier strike group featuring Queen Elizabeth-class, Type 45 Destroyer, and Astute nuclear submarine



-Doctrine
Doctrine shaped by experience,

USA was a traditional user of AC, primarily because of her far away position from her main allies in Europe, immensive industrial, and economic size to estabilish an expenditionary force abroad her coast. A single US Navy carrier strike group packs more power than most navies. We can see USN is the pioneer of AC technology (Nuclear supercarrier, EMALS, etc).

combined strength of two US Navy carrier strike group. USN has...TWELVE carrier strike group.

USSR was different. Dozens of ground warfare experience, hostile border neighbors, close proximity of allies and her vassals, help to differ her naval doctrine from USN, which is to prevent US Carrier battle groups crossing the Atlantic and Pacific while her ground and air force march into European soil. That's why USSR built more missile battlecruisers, missile submarines, hypersonic ASM and aircraft-carrying cruiser instead of real AC.

Soviet Navy Kiev-class, her carrier wing (MiG-29K, Su-33, and ASW helicopters) are meant to defend the carrier group from missile and aerial strikes, while US carrier wing used as long-range strike platform.

From my observation, Pakistan seems to have more experience in ground warfare and aerial warfare than in naval warfare against India. If Pakistan Navy still insists that she wants an AC, well, need a lot of time (money too) to learn its doctrine and strategy, even China still need to learn more about operating an AC.

-Geopolitical reasons
Why would Pakistan acquire an AC? Is India located across oceans? Or Pakistan is one of permanent security member of UN so she need AC to protect her interest and project her power outside her boundaries? India, Japan builds AC, because of her (increasing) size (economically, militarily, politically) so she needs all the means to protect her interest, by building destroyers, frigates, and AC's.

While Russia only operates a single AC left from Soviet era, all her AC plans was just...a plan...for now.

different case if you just hoarding military stuffs, though....
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post above are just my opinions, any input are welcomed.

 

[Hippogryph]

This is how our Thunders will look like on an aircraft carrier.

 

[Indo-Pak]

But why not?

It all comes back to the end. Pakistan does not really need an Aircraft Carrier. It serves no interest or purpose as of now and even for the near future. Investing in a Nuclear powered aircraft carrier would cost over 5 billion dollars. The Pakistan Navy spent that very same amount on 8 submarines. A much better choice.

The REAL Reason Why Pakistan must have an Aircraft Carrier

Both were mighty beast and were detected/destroyed by much inferior planes took off from Air craft carrier. Can u believe a small biplane was cause of destruction of Bismark???

 

[Hassan Guy]

The REAL Reason Why Pakistan must have an Aircraft Carrier

Both were mighty beast and were detected/destroyed by much inferior planes took off from Air craft carrier. Can u believe a small biplane was cause of destruction of Bismark???

nice videos

No money no honey, thats the reason.

India is the biggest navel power in the Indian Ocean, it constantly undermine Pakistani military. If Pakistan could afford a carrier it would have.

Real Reason : No $$$$ No romance.

Why do people not read the article and just the title?

 

[spectribution]

nice videos



Why do people not read the article and just the title?

Again no $$$$ no toys. Submarines are based on type 39 class for which P 8I is enough. By 2028 india will have multiple nuclear submarines and the scorpenes plus P 75I not to mention refurbuished kilos(2?).

 

[Hassan Guy]

Again no $$$$ no toys. Submarines are based on type 39 class for which P 8I is enough. By 2028 india will have multiple nuclear submarines and the scorpenes plus P 75I not to mention refurbuished kilos(2?).

By 2028 Pakistan will have 8 S-20 AIP subs, 3 Overhauled Agosta 90B subs, And some Nuclear Sub(s) aswell

 

[MJunaid909]

According to the following article, Pakistan doesn`t need an Aircraft carrier. There were reports China might sell its old aircraft carrier to Pakistan as China inducts more Aircraft carriers into their navy. Considering Pakistan responds to any new weapon India introduce they have seems like no intention in buying aircraft carrier. They are several reasons for that, Economics aircraft carrier is costly and takes a lot of $ in maintaining it. Second Pakitan doesn`t need as country don`t have regional dominancy ambitions. Third in case of war with India its Airforce and fighter jets F-16 and Jf-17 can do the damage and block the Strait of Hormuz due to the close distance and a high combat range of these aircraft. so why Pakistan should buy an Aircraft Carrier, at least no yet?

Why Pakistan don`t need an Aircraft Carrier? - Indus Watch

Pakistan is strategically located in South Asia with the Arabian Sea in the southwestern border, India on the eastern border, Afghanistan, and Iran on the Western border.

induswatch.com

 

[Signalian]

Third in case of war with India its Airforce and fighter jets F-16 and Jf-17 can do the damage and block the Strait of Hormuz due to the close distance and a high combat range of these aircraft.

PN would be lucky if PAF sends F-16 on PN's call, so far 2nd and 8th Squadrons are for Maritime support.

 

[LeGenD]

Aircraft carrier is expensive option in view of Pakistani economic situation in the present.

When Pakistan will have a strong economy (hopefully), then a small aircraft carrier similar to America-class shall be considered.

Solid investment TBH.