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We analyzed 40 SNP and 19 STR Y-chromosomal markers in a large sample of 1,525 indigenous individuals from 14 populations in the Caucasus and 254 additional individuals representing potential source populations. We also employed a lexicostatistical approach to reconstruct the history of the languages of the North Caucasian family spoken by the Caucasus populations. We found a different major haplogroup to be prevalent in each of four sets of populations that occupy distinct geographic regions and belong to different linguistic branches. The haplogroup frequencies correlated with geography and, even more strongly, with language. Within haplogroups, a number of haplotype clusters were shown to be specific to individual populations and languages. The data suggested a direct origin of Caucasus male lineages from the Near East, followed by high levels of isolation, differentiation and genetic drift in situ.Comparison of genetic and linguistic reconstructions covering the last few millennia showed striking correspondences between the topology and dates of the respective gene and language trees, and with documented historical events. Overall, in the Caucasus region, unmatched levels of gene-language co-evolution occurred within this geographically isolated populations, probably due to its mountainous terrain.

Basically what i have been saying all the time. Yet the cretin does not get it.

Genetic variation in the Caucasus - Gene Expression | DiscoverMagazine.com

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Equaling languages with genetics. You obviously have absolutely no clue about ME, Arab or Semitic history nor genetics. All Semitic people cluster with each other. Long before Arabic language even existed this was the case and it will also be the case if we decided to adopt Papuan tomorrow. Don't confuse Arabs for Turks in this regard or other populations who have little in common other than the language and who live 1000 thousands km apart and who are not even inhabiting the same region or are native to the same region.
 
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Agreed arabs took full opportunity to get even with Turks. Arabs shake hand with Brits.
Superb thread @Ceylal ! Love it :)



Absolutely agreed. It was all Muslim arabs who rose up against Ottomans and left them to the conspiracies of the imperialists. The great Turkish nation rose from this disaster.

Look at arabs now. Still they have no peace, they are their biggest enemies. If its not Israel, its sectarianism they have fanned that's destroying them from within.

Compare this to Turks.
Not only were the Arab Muslims fighting against the Ottomans but so were South Asian Muslims (Pakistani, indian) who served in the British indian army.
 
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@Desert Fox

Read post number 47. That's about it. Everything is explained there and every claim can be backed up by history or confirmed by a quick Google search. That's my opinion and that of the majority of Arabs. Most of the almost 500 million Arabs I would say. Muslim, Christian, Jewish or atheist.
 
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Not only were the Arab Muslims fighting against the Ottomans but so were South Asian Muslims (Pakistani, indian) who served in the British indian army.

Unwillingly. Muslim of South Asia were the front runners in the campaign against British action in Turkey. The fact the Turks admit and accept even today.
 
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Basically what i have been saying all the time. Yet the cretin does not get it.

Genetic variation in the Caucasus - Gene Expression | DiscoverMagazine.com

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Equaling languages with genetics. You obviously have absolutely no clue about ME, Arab or Semitic history nor genetics. All Semitic people cluster with each other. Long before Arabic language even existed this was the case and it will also be the case if we decided to adopt Papuan tomorrow. Don't confuse Arabs for Turks in this regard or other populations who have little in common other than the language and who live 1000 thousands km apart and who are not even inhabiting the same region or are native to the same region.

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And still Caucasians are genetically closer to Europeans and Indo-Europeans than they are to Arabs. How can you explain that? I thought that people from the Caucasus are genetically very close to Arabs
 
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One of the most amazing empires in human history which was lucky to have been blessed with several capable Sultans one after the other. Unfortunately the latter Sultans realized too late that they needed to industrialize and modernize the Empire to be able to compete with Europe. Ethno centric nationalism further also played a huge role in the demise of the Empire.
 
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